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Because the PC OEM market has been generally contracting. So even the same number of Mac sales is an increase in terms of marketshare percentage.

You reply to a person talking about numbers, and now you are going to market share without providing evidence of anything. It still doesnt show growth.
 
So they sold 1 million less iPhones but had like 10 billion more in sales (hard to tell from the graph). That means there is no reason whatsoever to lower the price on the X. It worked in their eyes...right?
 
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Their numbers would have been a bit higher if they had sold me a phone.
I did not by the X.
It just was too.. meh...
 
What do these Mac numbers show us? A stagnation, greed, or both?

Q1 12 - 5.20M Macs, $6.60B Revenue
Q1 13 - 4.06M Macs, $5.52B Revenue
Q1 14 - 4.84M Macs, $6.34B Revenue
Q1 15 - 5.52M Macs, $6.94B Revenue
Q1 16 - 5.31M Macs, $6.75B Revenue
Q1 17 - 5.37M Macs, $7.24B Revenue
Q1 18 - 5.11M Macs, $6.90B Revenue

Neither, stop trying to paint your own imaginary negative spin on this.
 
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The channel build for iPhones was 1 million. So sell-through was 76.3 million versus 77.1 million last year.
 
What do these Mac numbers show us? A stagnation, greed, or both?

Q1 12 - 5.20M Macs, $6.60B Revenue
Q1 13 - 4.06M Macs, $5.52B Revenue
Q1 14 - 4.84M Macs, $6.34B Revenue
Q1 15 - 5.52M Macs, $6.94B Revenue
Q1 16 - 5.31M Macs, $6.75B Revenue
Q1 17 - 5.37M Macs, $7.24B Revenue
Q1 18 - 5.11M Macs, $6.90B Revenue
Clearly Mac buyers are a stagnant bunch. Possibly they are greedy too, but I don’t know how you get that from those numbers.
 
What do these Mac numbers show us? A stagnation, greed, or both?

Q1 12 - 5.20M Macs, $6.60B Revenue
Q1 13 - 4.06M Macs, $5.52B Revenue
Q1 14 - 4.84M Macs, $6.34B Revenue
Q1 15 - 5.52M Macs, $6.94B Revenue
Q1 16 - 5.31M Macs, $6.75B Revenue
Q1 17 - 5.37M Macs, $7.24B Revenue
Q1 18 - 5.11M Macs, $6.90B Revenue

What do these show? They show a need for new Mac mini’s and the Pro.
 
You reply to a person talking about numbers, and now you are going to market share without providing evidence of anything. It still doesnt show growth.

Every three months we have a thread about how Mac Sales are growing compared to the general PC market and where PC sales are rising, it's almost all in the under-$500 category. Here is the latest on 2017 overall showing Apple rising to 4th place.

Mac Mini sales last quarter were around 50,000 and Mac Pro sales were around 100,000. I want new ones of each as much as the next person, but even the most "magical" of upgrades is not going to suddenly push those each into the millions per quarter.
 
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Stock is up over 2% after hours now. Of course it gave up like 10% in the last week or two.
 
Did you read my post? The countless number of people who said the iPhone X would be a flop, for the reasons I stated. Are you going to claim you’ve never heard any of the excuses I gave?

No one is doubting that iphone x sells on 1st quarter and apple made record quarter.

the issue is 2nd and 3rd quarter NOW that all the FAN boy bought the Iphone X.... their numbers in the next few months is very questionable.
 
how is that spectacular in a good way?

For Apple? How is it not spectacular?

It shows that a significant portion of people are spending way more money on iPhones than they ever have, and it also shows they can get people to spend a lot more money for a premium product with premium features. Since iPhones are a huge chunk of Apple's revenue, this is important to them.

I fail to see it any other way, but am I missing something? In a time where you can buy iPhones in the broadest price spectrum ever ($349 to $1,149), Apple has increased ASP significantly. Who knows what future quarters will bring, but this number must please Apple very much.
 
Apple wearables revenue up 70% YOY. Apple Watch Series 3 up 100% more than Series 2 sales last year.
 
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Does anybody have some industry references to add here? I'm sure most (if not all) competitors barely even hit the $400 ASP.

I would guess since Apple only competes in the premium smartphone market and most other manufacturers sell a wide range of handsets, my guess is that a competitor's ASP would be closer to $200. Total guess on my part, but I don't know of any Android manufacturers that sell only high-end phones.
 
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If I were an Apple investor I would be worried about the same-quarter drop in unit sales. Sales have been stagnant since the iPhone 6 was released in 2014 and the X was supposed to be the supercycle savior pushing unit sales to a new record. That obviously didn't happen and the bulk of the revenue growth is due to increases in ASP. Prices can only go so high. Q1 ASP has hovered right around $700 since the iPhone 6. The X obviously sold better than some of the reports had suggested, but to expect ASP to increase another 17% in the forseeable future is highly unlikely.

Next quarter's ASP will be what I'm interested in. For the past three years Q2 ASP has been right around $650. If the X continues to sell as well as it did this past quarter I will be looking for at least $725 next quarter.
 
how is that spectacular in a good way?

If, for instance for every $1000 iPhone X sold , and someone else bought the lowest model 6s, the average would be $725... Keep in mind that the 8 started at $699 this year and the 8+ at $799

It's spectacular and there's no way to spin it as anything but.

5 iPhone X's at $1,000, 2 iPhone 8's at $699, 2 iPhone 7's at $549 and 1 SE at $349. 50% of your total sales are the X yet your ASP is only $784. That's the funny thing with ASP - a few sales of lower end models really drags it down.
 
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