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You have that reversed. EPS is higher this quarter, not lower.
Sorry, I mixed that up. :eek:

Because of the share buyback program, there are less shares out there and that leads to a higher profit per share. So the company isn't growing, but the individual shares are growing.
 
I'm confused, Apple paid $7.7 billion dollars in dividend in last quarter, how is that "not much"? They returned ~ $50 billion dollars to investors so far since they started paying the dividends.

Yeah, if they paid this to me (alone) I would stay to. But they did not. All these billions amount to about a meager 2% annually. I can make this in CD deposits without any risk.
 
Interesting but meaningless stat of the day:

Apple's net profit of $13b over the last 3 months was more than the company made from its founding in 1977 til the iPhone launched in 2007.
 
That's what people are missing here. Profits are only one part of the equation, and while they're doing spectacularly (it'd be hard to claim otherwise after seeing them sell 50 million iPhones and making 13.1 billion in profits), the problem is that all those profits are generated by two similar products in an increasingly competitive field.

Apple's hardly doomed, but with everyone else chomping at the bit for a piece of the mobile pie, and the iPhone/iPad line remaining relatively unchanged over the years, their potential mid and long term growth lies in question. Hence the slight hits to their market value.

Your logic has no place on this thread/board! ;)
 
I don't think AAPL is going to see any significant growth until the new leadership proves that they can successfully enter a new market. The market just doesn't know what to expect from Tim Cook's Apple.

It is not like Jobs designed everything himself. I think that APPL will continue to do just fine.
 
Well, nobody does. However nobody has the same market capitalization either so I am not sure what's the discrepancy here. Besides. other companies at least pay decent dividends. Apple does not (i.e. not decent). What's the point in staying with the stock which does not grow and does not pay dividends?

:D $10.6 billion in dividends for FY2013 somehow equals "does not pay dividends". Fantastic logic.
 
The more he talks, the more she drops!

Timmy you've had plenty of time to get into the role of CEO. We need some new revenue streams for 2014. The street is tired with your current lines and your market shares aren't growing like they used to. Quit boasting about your own success and lets see something exciting!
 
All of this downward movement of the stock after hours is purely because analysts were expecting 55-60 million iPhone sales?!? This is absurd! We need analysts like we need a hole in the head. They're almost always wrong and even when they are wrong, they find ways to make it seem like they were right. WTH! 55-60 million was just a random number pulled out of some analysts a$$. Who cares!

What about record earnings? Or Samsung having such an awful quarter? None of that matters? Common sense would tell us that we should base a company's potential for growth on many things and look at the big, whole picture. Stupid "anal"ysts want us to focus on a random iPhone sales number. It's assinine and completely ridiculous.
 
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Interesting but meaningless stat of the day:

Apple's net profit of $13b over the last 3 months was more than the company made from its founding in 1977 til the iPhone launched in 2007.

It's not that meaningless. It highlights one inherent danger with AAPL. It remains mostly a one pony stock. Should iPhone profits decline (which they most likely will given the inevitable commoditization in this market) AAPL price may collapse very fast.
 
This is another quarter where the stock just drops even faster as the earnings call goes on. It's now down 8%.
 
:D $10.6 billion in dividends for FY2013 somehow equals "does not pay dividends". Fantastic logic.

That's just about 2% annually. There are hundreds of stocks that pay more. I think my logic is solid (and apparently matches that of other investors)
 
:D $10.6 billion in dividends for FY2013 somehow equals "does not pay dividends". Fantastic logic.

2% return equals "does not pay dividends - go to your bank - you can get a no risk CD at a higher return than Apple's dividend!

Edit: I was just reiterating your earlier post @lilo777.
 
Close to $500

If the stock falls below $500, it could wind up going a LOT lower. There will be lots of pressure on Tim Cook this year, and Icahn will be calling for an even bigger buyback.
 
does anyone know how much samsung lost after hours when they missed earnings? AAPL down 8% after $13.1b in profit is absurd.
 
It comes down to this: Wall Street wants to write the script. Innovate, market, reduce price, commoditize, take over market share, repeat. Since most people on Wall Street have the actual intelligence of a Llama, once this dogma is in their head, it don't come out. Problem is Apple does it differently, they innovate, market, keep price steady, focus on user experience and get people to pay higher prices for better equipment and experience, don't take over market share, make most of the profits, repeat. Since the dumshit Llamas don't understand this, they assume the sky must be falling when the standard tech script isn't played out. They chase their tails, eat their own feces, and dump all their stock until someone else on a news program convinces them that it's ok...for now...at least until the next earnings call.


How can a company making almost all the profits in an industry that is getting destroyed by it, and the only other OEMs managing to actually SELL anything in this industry have to copy Apple's products have anything but an excellent outlook for the next 5 years. I think it's really clear that Apple has rewritten the technology business script, and until all the Llamas die off, this will continue. I hate being an Apple Investor because I want to invest in companies doing all the right things, makes good money, and shares a handsome dividend, AND truly cares about what they do, and Apple just keeps getting killed at a P/E ratio so low, you'd think every automated trading program in the world would buy a chunk, while Twitter and Facebook and Amazon trade at an order of magnitude higher P/E. Whatever, I enjoy being part owner of Apple...and their price WILL come back.
 
It's not that meaningless. It highlights one inherent danger with AAPL. It remains mostly a one pony stock. Should iPhone profits decline (which they most likely will given the inevitable commoditization in this market) AAPL price may collapse very fast.

Yes and no. Samsung got hammered last week and it is far from a one-trick pony. But it turns out that Samsung sacrificed profits for volume. Apple actually beat the Street in terms of earnings, which means that if anything, it was Apple's more expensive products that sold better than the cheaper products. If the market were becoming overly price conscious, we'd have seen a big rush toward the 5C and Apple's earnings would have faltered even if the iPhone unit numbers increased.
 
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