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This is beyond pathetic. Instead of fighting their competition on the market, where they should, they're fighting them in the courtroom! Cowardly, to say the least. Why the hell aren't they fighting all those Asian knock offs as hard as they're fighting Samsung, HTC, Motorola...?
Apple, I knew you were a bitch, but you've just reached an all time low.
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16 Billion from Motorola are actually 16 Billion from Google! Enough money to make Google rethink its Android approach ^^ Plus as the German legal system for patents are worldwide know and point of reference, if the judge rule in favour of Apple similar lawsuits will probably rule in favour of Apple.

Since Google dont yet own Motorola, then no the 16 Bil isn't from them.
 
16 BILLION?

That makes Microsoft look like an angel even with THEIR history.

Absolutely disgusting. I'd say Apple's 1984 commercial was ironic, but thats a massive understatement.

There is another side to this: Motorola, who had the lead in processors at one time and dropped it pathetically, who was once a leader in mobile phones and lost that as well, a company that is going to be sold to Google, one of Apple's biggest competitors, and especially a competitor in the cloud business, drags out some patents and wants to stop Apple from entering the cloud business in Germany until a court case is decided, which could take until 2018. That is of course not disgusting, right? And the plan is of course that Motorola does the damage, gets sold off, and when Apple wins the court case there is nobody left to pay for damages.
 
This is beyond pathetic. Instead of fighting their competition on the market, where they should, they're fighting them in the courtroom! Cowardly, to say the least. Why the hell aren't they fighting all those Asian knock offs as hard as they're fighting Samsung, HTC, Motorola...?
Apple, I knew you were a bitch, but you've just reached an all time low.
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Watch the second half of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO61RlgYm4s

Dude nails it. Apple fanboys need not watch this, it wont make you comfortable knowing how shady apple is.
 
Apple loses nothing by employing these tactics. They have the financial wherewithal to continue with this, and the consumer ultimately barely knows about this, nor really care even if it was known.

Apple knows they have a case and are pushing it. More power to them.

This also serves to put Google on notice that Apple is willing to play the game long-term.

They loose dignity, respect, customers, allies and any hope of ever working with top tech companies such as Samsung. Obviously existing contracts (e.g iDevice parts) would remain in tact, but you can bet that they would be told to stuff it if they asked for new deals on anything.
 
They loose dignity, respect, customers, allies and any hope of ever working with top tech companies such as Samsung. Obviously existing contracts (e.g iDevice parts) would remain in tact, but you can bet that they would be told to stuff it if they asked for new deals on anything.

All Apple needs are consumers to continue opening their wallets. Consumers fuel everything else. And when the world is gripped in iPhone/iPad/iOS mania, everything else is out of sight, out of mind. Developers in turn go to where the money is: Apple. And so the cycle continues.

This is why Apple is able to do whatever they're doing, yet expand the iOS ecosystem in the process.

Watch for Apple's quarterly numbers after the holidays. You'll see just how much um . . . "respect" and "dignity" they lost (if these abstractions even apply.)

We keep having these conversations about Apple "losing respect" and "evil Apple", etc., ever since the Creative vs. Apple lawsuits from years ago, and nothing ever changes for Apple. All Apple needs to do is capture and command consumer interest and desire and keep doing it. Done.
 
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This is actually smart lawyering. It will give Mot pause for concern. It's basically saying "are you willing to bet your entire company on this? because if not back down"

it quickly went from small risk big gain to huge risk big gain. If anything this is apple admiting they have a poor case and hoping to win by backdown from motorola going over their risk assessments.
 
Watch the second half of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO61RlgYm4s

Dude nails it. Apple fanboys need not watch this, it wont make you comfortable knowing how shady apple is.

This guy has it spot on. I think we should just take to linking the fanboys to this video.

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MacRumors: Based on the number of internet trolls that are here, can you please just turn the god damn post ranking system off? PLEASE?

Just ignore it. Those clicking the downvote button generally have nothing better to do than bicker.
 
and their image just keeps cracking. by the end of 2012 apple will be the lindsay lohan of gadgets. trashed by the media for their redic behaviour and abonded by many ppl out of principle. it already shows even on MR, ive never seen so many anti-apple fights on here than recently

keep the down votes coming ;)
 
Apple is becoming the very thing it fought against in 1984.

Great pity, because their arrogance in recent years is astounding.

Oh, balderdash. They have a business model. There is a body of patent law. They have the patents to defend. Legal contents are a kind of ritual combat, it's true. Google gives its OS for free to anyone, which encourages everyone to copy Apple in such a way that they are coasting on the years of work that Apple did developing a brand-new platform.

This is not "Big Brother," this is good old capitalistic competition in the legal system. If they weren't copying, then they will win and Apple will have delayed them slightly and imposed a cost that the Google gambit freed them from: either writing their own OS or paying for licensing.

All they have to do is create something new.

Maybe the patent and trademark laws need changing, but playing tennis without a net as you seem to propose isn't the answer for protecting innovation.
 
Apple loses nothing by employing these tactics. They have the financial wherewithal to continue with this, and the consumer ultimately barely knows about this, nor really care even if it was known.

Apple knows they have a case and are pushing it. More power to them.

This also serves to put Google on notice that Apple is willing to play the game long-term.

Not when the governments get involved. Which they will if Apple continues to grow and act like this.
 
This is actually smart lawyering. It will give Mot pause for concern. It's basically saying "are you willing to bet your entire company on this? because if not back down"

it quickly went from small risk big gain to huge risk big gain. If anything this is apple admiting they have a poor case and hoping to win by backdown from motorola going over their risk assessments.

Apple just raised the price of poker. The questions is whether Moto and Google are still willing to play. In any case, never mind Moto, if Google gets involved all this legal exposure won't be good for them and Android, IP-wise. Apple would probably like nothing more than to draw Google in further.
 
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This is not "Big Brother,"

Oh yes it is, it has been for some time:

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ironic, isnt it?
 
Oh yes it is, it has been for some time:

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ironic, isnt it?

All is forgiven if we get more iPhones and iPods and other goodies. The way it's been all this time.

the only place this "Big Brother" tech meme matters is on the internet, where us geeks and tech-heads can throw it around with impunity.

They don't actually have any meaning in reality. In reality, consumers are planning their Christmas purchases. Chances are, Apple is on many, may lists.
 
This is actually smart lawyering. It will give Mot pause for concern. It's basically saying "are you willing to bet your entire company on this? because if not back down"

it quickly went from small risk big gain to huge risk big gain. If anything this is apple admiting they have a poor case and hoping to win by backdown from motorola going over their risk assessments.

I don't think this is fair statement, because I don't think Motorola alone stands to gain enough to warrant this.

Now, if all these tech companies are forming the Super Best Friends to collude against Apple in any way they can, then OK, maybe all of them combined stand to make enough to validate it.
 
All is forgiven if we get more iPhones and iPods and other goodies. The way it's been all this time.

the only place this "Big Brother" tech meme matters is on the internet, where us geeks and tech-heads can throw it around with impunity.

They don't actually have any meaning in reality. In reality, consumers are planning their Christmas purchases. Chances are, Apple is on many, may lists.

apple's mobile devices are the last things i would consider buying. macs are a different story.
 
We keep having these conversations about Apple "losing respect" and "evil Apple", etc., ever since the Creative vs. Apple lawsuits from eyes ago, and nothing ever changes for Apple. All Apple needs to do is capture and command consumer interest and desire and keep doing it. Done.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. If they make something BETTER, it sells. It keeps up its own momentum. People who want things that are good-looking, and do what you want them to, will continue to sell. As long as the company in question makes something that people like -- like 96% of the buyers of iPhone 4ses do -- it will continue to sell. And no, there is absolutely nothing, zero, zip, wrong with that. Until the great majority want to be able to easily root their phones, install lots of software from lots of different sources, etc. then Apple is stealing nothing, no lack of empowerment for their consumers. Which would the average person prefer? To have a great camera on the phone, plus iMovie and hundreds of other video and photo editing apps on the phone, or to be able to launch a boot manager?

Computer nerds love something they can build in their basement. I don't.
 
Man, I like Apple products as much as the next guy here, but this is seriously getting out of hand. Stuff like this is way, way beyond reasonable. It's disgusting, in fact. If and when Apple keeps acting so arrogant, I don't know if I'll be able to ethically justify supporting them anymore. I'm holding off any product buying decisions until they rethink what they're doing and decide to act reasonably again.
 
apple's mobile devices are the last things i would consider buying. macs are a different story.

Who's talking about YOU? I'm talking about the market at large, not an infinitesimal subsection of it that turns tech purchases into a moral quandary.
 
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