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Umm, did they let you take the exam home on honor code? lol. Apples and oranges. Are you sure you went to Stanford?
Depended if it was a take home exam. If your professor gave you a take home exam then the code stated they had to give you the full time between when they handed you the exam and when it had to be turned in. If it was a closed book exam then you were on your honor not to use any prohibited materials. The honor code was printed right on the blue book exam book that they usually required you to use. As a Stanford student you were given the benefit of the doubt that you conducted yourself honorably. But don’t take my word for it, just Google the Stanford honor code and proctoring.

I graduated in June 2005 with my MSEE from Stanford. The Steve Jobs commencement address was my graduation but I wasn’t there because I only needed one credit to graduate during my final quarter and so I came back to Florida in March and finished by taking a class online.
 
I know it may seem counterintuitive but I just don't understand why anyone would ever want to work for Apple.
These people are not working for Apple. This is not an Apple policy. This is a policy of Teleperformance, a call center company whose services are used by Apple as well as many other companies. Apple certainly should take steps to insist that any workers at Teleperformance doing work for them are not treated this way, or else move their business to another company, and hopefully they will. But it’s important to be clear (which unfortunately this Macrumors article kind of wasn’t) that these are not Apple employees and this is not Apple policy.
 
Apple DOES care about Telepresence using cameras on the folks fielding THEIR calls, and their contract rejects this.

However, Apple can’t force Dell to NOT use child labor to mine the materials used in their devices. And Apple can’t force Sony to NOT have Telepresence use cameras.

There are problems with your comparison: Dell is a competitor, not a supplier/ contractor/ partner. Even if they share some suppliers, the comparison still doesn’t hold up. Teleperformance may be large, but they are far from the only company that can provide these services to Apple. It would be much harder to tell companies like TSMC or Foxconn they have to ensure they properly source for every company they work with; walking away isn’t really an option since there isn’t enough manufacturing capacity in the world to meet Apples needs without them. Apple can walk away from Teleperformance.

Maybe Apple just doesn’t actually care. You are known by the company you keep, and Apple seems to be fine keeping with Teleperformance.
 
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REALLY not liking the new Apple. I'd really like an explanation for what the hell is going on? Has there been some kind of anti-privacy coup going on in the company? Did they lose too many good people from the pandemic/general state of California that caused people to move away that were pro-privacy and now all that's left are the scumbags? This is so wild. Thanks, I hate it.
This isn’t Apple policy. This is a new policy at Teleperformance company they (and many other companies) use. Certainly Apple needs to use its leverage to either ensure anyone at the Teleperformance company doing work for them is not treated this way (or else they need to take their business elsewhere), but this is not Apple policy and not a “new Apple”
 
In addition, it asked workers to agree to the sharing of data and images relating to any children they have under the age of 18 who may be picked up by video and audio monitoring tools, give biometric data, including fingerprints, and even take polygraph tests.
What, polygraph tests, but not ouija boards?
 
I guess we should ask why the most valuable company on the planet --- that has ever existed in fact -- is operating this portion of their business in Colombia at all.
Simple reason.

Spanish in Latin America varies from country to country with a lot of indigenous words and words from other languages mixed in. So while basic communication is possible like food choices, billing and technical support requires language that is standard and that can be understood across the board.

A good example is when I lived in Colombia I was offered hired to consult on tech jobs by US companies because some piece of equipment would be shipped down and the US company would send someone of Mexican,Puerto Rican, Cuban descent and they could understand the Colombians but their command of technical, abstract, terms was non existent.

Spanish is my second language but I have lived on and off in Colombia for the last 30 years and when I first learned it there when I was 18 my family was super strict about if there was a word for it in Spanish, use the Spanish word, do not speak Spanglish. So you will never hear me see email in Spanish, but you will hear me say correo electronico, or just correo.

Colombia, especially in Bogota, is known for the purest Spanish outside of Spain, and is well known for it. Colombians and their accents(outside of the coast) are very easily understood in all Latin American countries.

Now the issue is there are not enough native speaking Colombians in the US to fill the Apple Latin American call center needs. If you are a Colombian native Spanish speaker in the US you generally have a different type of job than a tech job.

I got a job with a international web marketing company years ago that was Colombian owned with a giant office in Miami, a huge one in Bogota, and offices in 12 other countries.

I had to interview in Spanish on a Skype call with reps from all 12. Including Spain. Because technically in their eyes I am half Colombian, but really a gringo. The last interview was to see if I could make myself understood in each country as I would be working with teams in each. I got the job because the final review said "While he is a native born American, his command of the language will allow him to excel at his job." Which was high praise because I do not call myself fluent(that is high bar, my father is fluent in both because he lived six months out of the year in each country since he was 5) but I spent years at a time in Colombia where it was all I spoke.

To condense all that word salad above. Colombians speak a Spanish that is understood internationally.

I am not a fan of Teleperformance, because in another post I shared how I consulted with them 20 years ago and left because I did not like something they did but on the flip side they pay double of what the average Colombian earns.
 
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I don't really see the problem to be honest? Cover the camera or unplug it completely when you're done your shift. I'm 110% for WFH but we also have to be flexible. When "at work" having your employer able to monitor you is not the worst thing. Again this is as long as the employees are allowed to physically unplug it when they're off.
You are the problem. What a ridiculous take. These companies offload all their fixed costs of buildings, not to mention the wages, superannuation/401k, holiday pay etc by sending work offsite and/or overseas, and you think it’s ok to set up cameras in peoples homes, whilst hacking info about all family members? How about get lost! Make no mistake, WFH is for business benefit, not employee sakes. Don’t Get it confused.
 
so Apple isn't doing this after all. I guess no one got to the end of the article. Shame on MR for the clickbait article given Apple is not even doing this.
 
There are problems with your comparison: Dell is a competitor, not a supplier/ contractor/ partner. Even if they share some suppliers, the comparison still doesn’t hold up. Teleperformance may be large, but they are far from the only company that can provide these services to Apple. It would be much harder to tell companies like TSMC or Foxconn they have to ensure they properly source for every company they work with; walking away isn’t really an option since there isn’t enough manufacturing capacity in the world to meet Apples needs without them. Apple can walk away from Teleperformance.

Maybe Apple just doesn’t actually care. You are known by the company you keep, and Apple seems to be fine keeping with Teleperformance.
Dell is a competitor that is sourcing the same materials from the same companies. Apple can only dictate that the supplying company not use child labor on the materials that are sent to Apple. Apple can’t say that the company ALSO not perform child labor for the materials going to Dell, or Microsoft, or Tiger Electronics.

Apple currently has no need to walk away from Teleperformance because Teleperformance isn’t doing anything. They’ve said they have a plan, but that’s not set. And, I would guess that Apple will do business the same way they’ve done with TSMC, Foxconn, and their rare earth material providers. Dictate how Teleperformance’s employees do work for Apple, and only Apple.
 
When you’re getting paid to do a job and they want to implement certain tools then accept it or move on. They do this for the simple reason of a lot of these workers totally abusing their work from home privilege.

I called eBay a while back and a girl was making dinner while talking to me.

I’ve been on numerous calls lately and heard kids yelling in the background or people chasing their kids around not being able to focus on the call. I get it.
 
All that is needed for quality control is screen recordings and voice recordings while on a call. External video recording is wrong. Very wrong.
 
My employer doesn't need to see my pick my nose or scratch an itch. They can see what I do on the computer and that I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. They don't need to watch me.

100% an invasion of privacy and it's just more middle management getting insecure over the fact the climate has completely changed and they can no longer micromanage every little aspect of their employees day.
And to be fair with you, when I work from home I'm usually naked…
I wake up 6:59 and go to "work" at 07:00. No time to get dressed.
 
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When you’re getting paid to do a job and they want to implement certain tools then accept it or move on. They do this for the simple reason of a lot of these workers totally abusing their work from home privilege.

I called eBay a while back and a girl was making dinner while talking to me.

I’ve been on numerous calls lately and heard kids yelling in the background or people chasing their kids around not being able to focus on the call. I get it.
People can make dinners if they want to. The problem is that for example we don't get any breaks and you have 12h shifts. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
 
Read. The. Article.

“A spokesperson for Apple, Nick Leahy, said that the company "prohibits the use of video or photographic monitoring by our suppliers and have confirmed Teleperformance does not use video monitoring for any of their teams working with Apple."
Seems a big ask on MR :)
 
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Apple said that it audited Teleperformance in Colombia this year and did not find any "core violations of our strict standards," adding "We investigate all claims and will continue to ensure everyone across our supply chain is treated with dignity and respect."

How about with "supply chain is treated with DIGNITY, RESPECT and PRIVACY.

Reminds me of Zuckerberg. There is a reason why he was doing this years ago.

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Sorry but Teleperformance is a Sh*t company with insanely high employee turnover (in Canada) and management is super micromanaging enforcing every employee to step on the heads of one another in hopes to climb that ladder yet it’s only snakes.

I cannot stand Thai company and glad I quite in less than 5wks after realizing 1) they were not prepared for pandemic wfh with 2 moths notice of it starting and 2) cannot get their payroll working for new hires’ first cheques.

if a company cannot timely and properly pay you on your first cheque = Quit and FAST!
 
Either Teleperformance is lieing or Apple is on this topic … or both.

Who knows.

O the issue of companies installing surveillance web cams on people’s private homes. I do not understand it. Set objectives … and if not met …

I understand the use of cams in offices … for security reasons … theft and so on. But on people’s homes … that should be confined to the computer, call machine … do A:B comparisons.

There is a difference between data privacy and privacy. Data privacy a necessary condition for Privacy but not sufficient. In fact if left alone the effect can be quite the opposite giving people a false sense of privacy being respected when in fact is being used as a tool for mass AI or not surveillance.

Have you guys noticed the countries where these measures are being applied? Heheheh
 
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All that is needed for quality control is screen recordings and voice recordings while on a call. External video recording is wrong. Very wrong.
in your opinion it's wrong. There's more than enough people in the USA that can search tech documents at level 1 and if they cannot figure it out send it on to level 2 or higher. Keep the JOB's in the USA but you can't because it cost's too much probably do to GREED
 
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OK, Gang,
You don't like the Work-From-Home rule , you can always Off=@$$ and come to the office.
BTW, you don't usually don't fold laundry in the office.
 
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