The article missed the part about people being robbed at gun point and having the same thing happen.the moral of the story is to simply stay out of bars - you'll be doing yourself a favor on so many levels...
The article missed the part about people being robbed at gun point and having the same thing happen.the moral of the story is to simply stay out of bars - you'll be doing yourself a favor on so many levels...
Yep. Probably the most pointless article I’ve ever read....what, exactly, was the point of the 'report'?
"If someone steals your house keys, they could get in your house and take your stuff!" - Joanna Stern later today, probably.
Bad design. letting apple off the hook for a single point of vulnerability to get EVERYTHING is weak.Are there any other riveting articles out there like about how iPhone screens may crack when dropped - or possibly how battery life on iPhones is so horrible when used all day long?
The problem obviously is: armed robbery.The article missed the part about people being robbed at gun point and having the same thing happen.
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Apple is not innocent either. Somehow they think it makes the phone more secure to occasionally demand your passcode at the most inconvenient times. This is way less secure. I have been asked for the passcode while in public and I actually waited until I went to a private location before entering it. Ask for it every restart, fair. But if the phone has been on and there are no multiple failed Face ID attempts, DO NOT ask for the passcode.
Wish my thumbs moved that fast (and correctly).Unless you enable Face ID, this is the only way:
I dunno. If someone stole my phone from my hand and did get away. They’ve got about 5 minutes before I’d be into iCloud and killing it.
Seems like concealed carrying a firearm might also be of assistance. Someone tries stealing my phone through strong-arm robbery/intimidation… they’re going to have a bad time.This is why you should enable Face ID
I was brainstorming a bit and thought of an extra security feature Apple could add to reduce this risk-
If you have Face ID enabled and you try to unlock your phone by typing your passcode in, your iPhone has to scan your face to verify it's you. If a thief steals your iPhone and types in your passcode, tries scanning their face, and doesn't recognize them, they have to pass a second round of authentication. This could be by answering a security question, or sending a code to another Apple device or your email address.
In addition, there should be two factor authentication for force signing out trusted devices.
It sounds to me like the report is only detailing incidents of thieves looking over the shoulders of victims while they punch in their code. I'm sure they are also video recording the PIN entry in some cases so I don't see how a long PIN will make a difference here. These are grab and run thefts, not brute forcing hacks.It seems that the short 4-digit passcodes are not very secure so maybe best to use alphanumeric and/or long passcodes (12 or more digits) ?
A lot more people do that than you would imagine. And also in a dark bars and places with extreme lighting, Face ID sometimes fails and forces manual PIN entry.Who enters their passcode manually in a public place?
This is a narrative started by apps like 1password I suspect 😏
Those people were never going to implement best cybersecurity practices anyway and they will always exist with or without Apple. They are mostly consumers that value convenience over security. Apple just got their money instead of some other company.tl;dr: Shoulder Surfing attacks can happen with our phones too. This is why we have Face ID and Touch ID.
Once again: The iPhone and iPad ruined a generation of computer users. Apple's made so many people soft and forget basic cybersecurity as they think their phone and Apple will do it all for them.
I prefer Touch ID, but Face ID is pretty seamless. I was worried about it working while I lay in bed, but unless my face is completely obscured by the pillow, it still works. My only grievance was when masking was still everywhere. Very inconvenient having to lower mask, and potentially expose myself.I would be happy to enable touchid if my phone had it. I would also turn on Apple Watch unlock if I was able to do so without faceid.
Stil hate hate hate hate hate that authentication system.
But remember, in my scenario, the thief would have to unlock the phone to access the email. If the phone doesn't recognize their face after typing on the passcode, they can't unlock it.That same device likely has your email on it also.
Statistically, 6 digit PINs and Face ID are about the same in terms of security. And while random or planned passcode requests might be inconvenient, they definitely keep things more secure. They also help remind users to value and guard their passcodes.This is why I disagree with the users on here who keep saying passcode is more secure and stop using Face ID if you don't want people to take your phone and point it at you, etc. Perhaps the passcode is technically more secure, but it is practically way less secure. Face ID is secure especially if you enable "attention required." Always use Face ID. Never enter your passcode in public unless you are sure no one is looking at your screen (and to be extra secure, that no camera overhead is looking down at you).
Apple is not innocent either. Somehow they think it makes the phone more secure to occasionally demand your passcode at the most inconvenient times. This is way less secure. I have been asked for the passcode while in public and I actually waited until I went to a private location before entering it. Ask for it every restart, fair. But if the phone has been on and there are no multiple failed Face ID attempts, DO NOT ask for the passcode.
The fact that it’s a second password is the point.