On of the reasons I’ll keep buying Apple products.
If only they cared about freedom of speech in the same way.
If only they cared about freedom of speech in the same way.
And Apple can choose not to do business with a human rights violating country, but they did anyways. Soooo..no moral high ground for Apple here.
A fundamental human right in China?
You completely missed the point didn't you?
It has nothing to do with me using them or not and everything to do with highlighting Apple's hypocracy.
Apple's only too happy to crow about privacy when it suits them but is even more happy to take kickbacks from Google to be the default search engine on iOS.
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We've been over this before but it seems some people completely missed the memo that all of the data is completely anonymous and feel the need to regurgitate falsehoods
BS! During the iPhone setup you have the option of skipping (opt out, not now or whatever you want to call it). When I updated to High Sierra all of my same options were still disabled. I will bet then when I upgrade to the new iOS all of the iCloud and app integrations will still be the same.I buy a new phone and I have to go through it and "opt out" of nearly every feature.
Also the marketing exec running iAd left because he was upset that Apple would not open up to releasing more data. He went on to describe the need of 3 levels of approval (which includes a board member) to get access to any data in the user's profile.Tim Cook was CEO when iAd was discontinued, but not when it was started back in 2010.
As for dropping Facebook integration, that's something Apple has done, in both MacOS Mojave and iOS 12. https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...acebook-twitter-integration-from-macos-mojave
I assume you're hinting at Alex Jones here and if so I hate to break it to you but Apple, as a PRIVATE entity, is able to remove any content it sees fit to remove. Free Speech does not apply here.On of the reasons I’ll keep buying Apple products.
If only they cared about freedom of speech in the same way.
Besides that guy is a loon! He's been taking s**t for years now. Did you Bush was building FEMA camps to lock up anyone who voted against him?!?! LOLI assume you're hinting at Alex Jones here and if so I hate to break it to you but Apple, as a PRIVATE entity, is able to remove any content it sees fit to remove. Free Speech does not apply here.
Oh I agree 1000000000%. Jones is ****ing nutcase in EVERY sense of the wordBesides that guy is a loon! He's been taking s**t for years now. Did you Bush was building FEMA camps to lock up anyone who voted against him?!?! LOL
Apple:
Privacy is a right, unless you're in China.
Human rights are a right, but more so if you are a minority in the US.
Free speech is important, but not if we disagree with you as a company.
Used to work for them and love them, but this is what they've become.
Board should fire Tim and find someone who can build "insanely great" Macs, Mobile Devices, and Services, without all the other nonsense.
Last month, the U.S. House Committee on Energy and Commerce sent letters to Apple and Google parent company Alphabet with 16 multi-part questions about how the companies handle customer data.
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Apple has since responded to the letter, reiterating the company's belief that "privacy is a fundamental human right" and that it purposely designs its products and services to minimize its collection of customer data.
Timothy Powderly, Director of Federal Government Affairs at Apple, responded on behalf of Apple CEO Tim Cook:Apple provided detailed responses to all 16 questions, and background information on location services, in its full-length letter.
Apple's Response to U.S. House Energy and Commerce Committee Questions on Personal Data Collection by MacRumors on Scribd
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El oh el. I see what you tried to do there. We're not talking about stripping them from Safari because they can't do that. Well they probably could but that would be a whole other issue. If Apple truly cared about user privacy as Cook likes to boast that they do then Apple wouldn't demand kickbacks from Google to be their default search engine and would remove them from iOS but as they say money talks....False equivalence. Is apple supposed to block google services from safari and remove their apps from the app store because you believe they are hypocritical?
It's no surprise that Google already has plans to scrap Android and move on to their next OS that shares a lot of the same philosophies as Apple/iOS.
You mean Fuschia?? If so, you should probably clarify that as a rumor in some tech circles rather than your statement of fact. Unless you have a reference.There are already internal plans to scrap Android and introduce an OS locked down like Apple.
If it's easy to swap out Google services then why don't they. Come on let's be real. Google analytics etc etc.What services of Google's is Apple using? The only thing at this point I can think of is the default search engine, in which Google pays Apple handsomely to have access to. It's easy to swap it out for something else. It has also been rumored that Apple is working on their own search engine, and having recently hired Google's head of search and AI, I have a feeling we'll be seeing that come to fruition in the next year or two.
As for human rights in China, Apple has done more than any other company in making sure that employees are treated fairly at all of their manufacturers and suppliers. They have third party independent auditing teams that check in with them constantly to make sure high standards are being upheld. They've gone further than any other company in this regard. As for manufacturing in China, that's because there is not the infrastructure to handle it in the U.S. Could we someday? Sure, but there aren't enough skilled workers and high end equipment to handle everything that goes into not only building the iPhone but the supply chain behind it. That will take time as the U.S. is currently being pivoted from a services driven economy back into one where everyone works in a factory like the early 1900s.
Nice completely unrelated straw man argument there at the end, though.
If it's easy to swap out Google services then why don't they. Come on let's be real. Google analytics etc etc.
Apple have lots of shell companies that act as a middle man, and I guarantee that the privacy policies of those shell companies are not just a copy and paste job, (with the word Apple substituted of course), from the Apple website. If you think for one second that those shell companies don't engage in the kind of practices that Apple distance themselves from I have a bridge to sell you.
If I don't like how someone does something and it's fundamental, not just important, but fundamental to my thinking then I'd not do business there. If I was a black man and a member of the KKK offered to cut my hair for a cheap price, I'd decline. See where I'm going?
I've actually hugely stopped buying Apple products. I won't lie, I like them a lot and dislike Windows, but I'm looking for a way out.Let's see. Apple is fighting with Samsung yet they are buying their components for their phone. Apple can certainly condemn (comment) on Googles' privacy policy and still use their cloud based services. No hypocrisy here. And in addition, they are bound to adhere to local laws, which in some countries may be different than what we here in the USA are used to.
So what is your point? Did you quit buying apple products due to your conviction of their supposed hypocrisy. Did you put your money where your mouth is?
Time, location, and other system services. It is exactly what it says it is10 percent of my data usage is “Time and Location”; per “System Services”. Wonder what that all contain ...
Prove they don't.This is why Apple will always be the suppliers for computers, tablets, and phones for my company. Google is an advertising company, that’s it. As far as China goes, they are required by law to do certain things there. They have zero control over China’s policies. Google, hilariously, is fighting to get back into China.
Apple stood up to the feds in the face of harsh rhetoric. I respect them
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Prove it
Prove they don't.
Seriously tho, tell me you don't believe Apple have shell companies with a straight face. While you're doing that, tell me that the T's & C's and policies of these shell companies are identical to Apple.
Yeah, I thought so.......
In fact, let me just ask you straight;
1. Do you believe Apple operate shell companies?
2. Do you believe Apple T's & C's/policies are all but identical to these shell companies.