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Apple Restricts Hard Drive Replacements on New iMacs

MSlaw said:
Greed is not really the issue. Apple runs under the paradigm "Couple the hardware with the software". With software built around consistent hardware, you get a more reliable system, it's easier to support, and a better experience overall. IBM started it in the 50s, and it worked well. Oracle bought sun for this reason. Game consoles over the years are another good example.

Also on the IOS features on OS X, I too was worried about that. After using lion, I can say that they only moved features over that made sense so it's not a ploy to make the OS like an iPad in order to sell more.

and they've done a damn good job because I can't use a mouse anymore :D
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Wow you're like every company's ideal customer. I mean, they're screwing you over here and you think its a good thing! :eek: Why do you think most people will want to remove the hard drive in the first place? Considering its not too pricey (ish) to upgrade when you buy the iMac its probably because its broken. This doesn't fall under the coupling you talk about because if I take the harddrive out of my iMac it'll void the warranty anyway so there's no ease of support there for Apple as they'll simply turn me away. There really is nothing more than greed here as they simply wish to make you go back to them and pay premium to get a new harddrive when the machine is out of warranty.
 
loathing

I hated this years ago when Dell did it. They soldered proprietary connectors on their hard drives and internal fans (to include sensors). The problem became getting aftermarket parts...you had to use the SINGLE company Dell authorized to sell these parts.

How this didn't mount to collusion is beyond me. I think they eventually stopped doing so. I stopped buying Dells for the office.

Let's hope there is some "guidance" released about this to customers and third party vendors. Apple may not like the iMac being opened up, but that's not going to stop most tech people. It's just a computer after all.:eek:
 
Was about to buy, now won't buy

I was planning a purchase of the high end 27 inch system this weekend. This revelation has caused me to look to something else. Deviating from a such a standard thing as a hard drive interface is discouraging. It's steps like these that will turn Apple customers into HP or Dell customers.
 
nsgguy245 said:
I was planning a purchase of the high end 27 inch system this weekend. This revelation has caused me to look to something else. Deviating from a such a standard thing as a hard drive interface is discouraging. It's steps like these that will turn Apple customers into HP or Dell customers.
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Don't worry too much, you will get back on track as soon as OWC issues and appology for creating mass panic while lacking proper testing (and google) skills.

Apple made the the drives in the 2011 models much easier to replace than previous 2010 models. OCW for some odd reason thinks otherwise despite several people successfully upgrading the drive.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/12549810/
 
Rodimus Prime said:
you insulted everyone posting not me.

Also that link is to the previous generation. Not the most recent rev of the iMac which this is limited 2. The one released not very long ago.
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by saying read? Maybe it would help if you did.... from post 1

Yesterday I installed Intel`s SSD 510 (120GB) in my iMac 2011 27 inch (along with a 2TB WD Caviar black)
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as in the one released "not too long ago"
 
xxBURT0Nxx said:
by saying read? Maybe it would help if you did.... from post 1


as in the one released a few days ago
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that tell me nothing 2011 could be any time between Jan 1st 2011 and now. it does not tell me which gen it is.
Thread never tells me how long he has had it just sometime since this year. That is still a little 4.5 month time span and of which a very small range is the new gen.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
that tell me nothing 2011 could be any time between Jan 1st 2011 and now. it does not tell me which gen it is.
Thread never tells me how long he has had it just sometime since this year. That is still a little 4.5 month time span and of which a very small range is the new gen.
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I can show you the receipt if you would like ;) I got it 2 days after it was lunched a few days ago.
 
maxinc said:
I can show you the receipt if you would like ;) I got it 2 days after it was lunched a few days ago.
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and that the answer I needed. Your thread does not tell me that information.

Fact is people believe this because Apple has a long history of pulling crap like this off and getting away with it. I could easily see them going this way in the future.

Due to how Apple lays out its stuff is why for me I will never buy an Apple desktop. It is very difficult to access basic things like HD and Ram.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
that tell me nothing 2011 could be any time between Jan 1st 2011 and now. it does not tell me which gen it is.
Thread never tells me how long he has had it just sometime since this year. That is still a little 4.5 month time span and of which a very small range is the new gen.
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umm most posters would have claimed it was a 2010 if that was the case, not a 2011.

Also, if you would READ like i suggested a million times, you would see that it is the same poster in other threads talking about the same machine.. it IS in fact a NEW iMac. If you don't want to believe it I don't care, quit trying to call me out for your inability to understand the situation.
 
Rodimus Prime: if people talk about 2011 iMac it actually is the 2011 iMac in 99% of the cases. Granted, using the model identifier would be a better idea although this has a similar problem (there have been several Macs using the same identifier although having quite significant differences).
 
I was just about ready to put money down for the high-end stock iMac but now I'm going to have to reconsider. I get a lot of work out of my Macs and each one has had at least 1 replacement HDD. I would not feel comfortable spending almost £2,000 on a PC that should last me the next 5 years, knowing that if the HDD goes I'm stuck with Apple replacing it for a huge fee.
 
Dagless said:
I was just about ready to put money down for the high-end stock iMac but now I'm going to have to reconsider. I get a lot of work out of my Macs and each one has had at least 1 replacement HDD. I would not feel comfortable spending almost £2,000 on a PC that should last me the next 5 years, knowing that if the HDD goes I'm stuck with Apple replacing it for a huge fee.
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For the love of God, people please read a few more comments above and stop freaking out!!!
 
dukebound85 said:
Hmm? You realize that neither Apple nor PC vendors makes hard drives. There are a few hdd manufacturers who supply for all computer vendors. They all pool from the same group of products
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Your Ironimeter™ appears to be on the blink. I suggest you check the batteries.

Incidentally, I've never had a hard drive failure in twenty years of Macs. Not that that means anything, of course...
 
Stridder44 said:
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You've got to be kidding me. :mad:

No, seriously, this is a joke or a misstatement, right? Apple makes dick moves every now and then, but this can't be for real. If so, well, looks like I'm never buying an iMac again (at least until this crap stops). Because **** all if I'm ever going to pay the Apple tax on crap like HDDs and RAM.
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why? who really cares!? the computer will be obsolete before you need a bigger HDD. i've NEVER upgraded a hard drive. If you've outgrown the original HDD, it's time for a new computer anyway! Plus, as the article states, iMacs have never supported user-servicing of HDDs, so this isn't even a story.
 
Skunk - you're very lucky. 20 years, not a single drive failure? :eek:

In... 6 years, and 4 macs - I've gone through 4 drives. (from just failures)

I must be very unlucky...
 
scoobydoo99 said:
why? who really cares!? the computer will be obsolete before you need a bigger HDD. i've NEVER upgraded a hard drive. If you've outgrown the original HDD, it's time for a new computer anyway! Plus, as the article states, iMacs have never supported user-servicing of HDDs, so this isn't even a story.
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Your logic is flawed. It's normal for people to outgrow hard drives faster than the computing power itself. Also iMacs are pretty easy to service the hard drive.
 
You know apple is just trying to make the user experience better, but with something like this, theyre bound to make some of the modding community angry.
 
portishead said:
Your logic is flawed. It's normal for people to outgrow hard drives faster than the computing power itself. Also iMacs are pretty easy to service the hard drive.
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I was stating my opinion that if you've outgrown the HDD, it's time for a new computer. True, this is from my experience (and only referring to desktops.) I think your statement about it being "normal" for people to outgrow hard drives faster than computing power actually is much less substantiated than mine. Maybe I replace computers more often than most people (about every 2 years,) but regardless, it appears that this whole rumor was not even accurate from the start.

Also, I agree, iMacs are pretty easy to service. I was commenting on the HDD not being supported as a user-serviceable part.
 
scoobydoo99 said:
Also, I agree, iMacs are pretty easy to service. I was commenting on the HDD not being supported as a user-serviceable part.
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Giving the complexity of the design, taking the display out and messing with all those crammed connectors, it would be idiotic for them the allow users into replacing the hard drives. Doable for the competent user, yes of course but I would say the average Joe has a big change of screwing something up thinking that replacing an iMac hdd is just as easy as swapping a drive inside a Dell.

As for the OWC claims, they rushed into things trying to get into the spotlight but this is seriously damaging their reputation.

In the meanwhile, other happy user added a 3TB drive into 2011 iMac without problems.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1148641/
 
Big-TDI-Guy said:
Skunk - you're very lucky. 20 years, not a single drive failure? :eek:

In... 6 years, and 4 macs - I've gone through 4 drives. (from just failures)

I must be very unlucky...
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It all balances out - in 9 years and 5 mac laptops, I've only had one drive failure, but I've had 6 logic board failures, an optical drive failure and 2 dead pixel screen replacements.
 
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