No, the decision started with apple requiring searches. Therefore, it is their responsibility to pay for the time it takes.
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Apple Retail Employees File Class Action Lawsuit Over 'Bag Check' Lost Wages
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No, the decision started with apple requiring searches. Therefore, it is their responsibility to pay for the time it takes.
That's interesting. I had to write a timeclock application for an employer a few years ago. I assumed that login times could be a problem, so I had the START button automatically back date ten minutes. Otherwise you're practically inviting a lawsuit.
Who owns the bag? That could be argued back and forth. Aren't employees briefed up on this policy when they start working for Apple? It sounds like just about every other retailer does this and my guess is no way did it usually take 5-15 minutes to check. Maybe the employees should have just brought their sandwich, meds, etc in a throw away paper sack if they didn't want to spend the extra minute or two (because in most cases I bet that is all it takes) to have their bag checked.
If they actually win this or settle I am sure Apple will make other changes to minimize the financial impact. Maybe adjust employee discounts or hours. Don't worry corporate always finds a way.
pretty positive apple will settle and this case will never be heard from again. there's a reason why there are people posting links to previous law suits and yet this is still happening. it's because nothing has changed. companies probably don't even want to deal with anything that makes it seem like they're nickle and diming their workers. You can bet a silver dollar this law suit was timed as an opportunity rather than an actual anger towards lost wages
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no, apple didn't require searches. apple would only require searches if they required you to bring a bag
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no, apple didn't require searches. apple would only require searches if they required you to bring a bag
That is quite possible, but it would depend on the situation. Driving to your regular place of work and back is on your own time (but the cost is tax deductible, and any injuries on the way count as work accidents). Driving to a different place would likely require payment. The reasoning is that it is your choice to take a job far away from where you live and you could move closer, but you can't do that if you work at different places.
And while you won't get paid for dressing for the job in the office, because it is assumed that you have to dress anyway or get arrested for public disorder, I would expect that someone like a clown who takes an hour to get dressed for the job, or anyone who can't go to work dressed like an average person, would get paid for the time.
Sounds like a legitimate issue. Some fanboys and right-wingers might object but the case appears to have merit.
The is however not much of a real news story, must be a slow day in Appleland.
The is however not much of a real news story, must be a slow day in Appleland.
Wow, since researching the US Labour law on rest and meal breaks, am I reading this correctly, that they are not required?
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Thats seems almost... Criminal...
If that's really true then breaks are offered at Apples discretion and they can't rightfully complain at missing breaks. However they can complain at being kept after hours without pay.
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Thats seems almost... Criminal...
If that's really true then breaks are offered at Apples discretion and they can't rightfully complain at missing breaks. However they can complain at being kept after hours without pay.
I can't believe everytime you have to wait 15 min to check out. The lawyers go where the money is - Apple has become the biggest target.
It's because they don't wait 15 minutes. I mean maybe someone did one time on Black Friday, but they are just trying to hype up the situation and make Apple look like it's taking hours away from them every week. They (the attorneys) know how much Apple is worth and they see it as an opportunity to make a lot of money. I mean sure they probably want to get their clients a little dough as well, but the real profit in this class action is for the attorneys.
If Apple required you to bring a bag then they should pay for it, but it seems to me the bag is personal property and I am not sure why your personal property needs to be dealt with on company time.
If you can't trust your own employees than who can you trust?
These bag checks are ridiculous. It would make more sense to simply review security footage if shrinkage occurs and nail ACTUAL thieves, instead of suspecting everyone.
These bag checks are ridiculous. It would make more sense to simply review security footage if shrinkage occurs and nail ACTUAL thieves, instead of suspecting everyone.
They do require you to be searched. Just because they only require people with bags to be searched (and they might require others to be searched as well). Doesn't mean they don't have to pay for that employee's time.
It needs to be dealt with on Company time because Apple insist on inspecting your PERSONAL belongings.
Just because some people could do with not taking a bag to work, doesn't mean you should have to do without. How do you propose people might bring extra clothing or food and drink? If Apple are going to insist on inspecting your property before you can leave, it needs to be on their time. Apple don't own you, they can't dictate your own personal time.
Smart move on Apple's part
I've owned retail businesses in the past. The highest theft rate came from well paid employees.
Inventory (and cash register) theft costs retailers BIG bucks. It not only hurts the owner(s), it hurts the honest employees as well as the buying public.
While the process of searching employees may seem demeaning and a harsh time consumption, it should be weighed against the other benefits of working for Apple. The pay is good, the benefits solid. If you don't like the other practices that go along with a job at Apple Retail, nobody is keeping you there.
Have we simply become a country of whiners?
I've owned retail businesses in the past. The highest theft rate came from well paid employees.
Inventory (and cash register) theft costs retailers BIG bucks. It not only hurts the owner(s), it hurts the honest employees as well as the buying public.
While the process of searching employees may seem demeaning and a harsh time consumption, it should be weighed against the other benefits of working for Apple. The pay is good, the benefits solid. If you don't like the other practices that go along with a job at Apple Retail, nobody is keeping you there.
Have we simply become a country of whiners?
Honest it's a colostomy bag. Go ahead and check.
Simple really. Once this 'check' has happened to you once, you either put up with it or leave crap in your car or at home.
Don't like it? Don't work for Apple.
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Simple really. Once this 'check' has happened to you once, you either put up with it or leave crap in your car or at home.
Don't like it? Don't work for Apple.
Tom
Really? So it's not at all possible that it's a valid grievance and that it just happens we all know about it because this is an Apple focused website that reports Apple news. This type of lawsuit never happens anywhere else?
No. Not accurate.
Again - FUD. You have no evidence that there will be any changes based on the outcome of this lawsuit.
California requires that employees get a break at least every 4hrs. Don't know about other states.
Well i don't know if this is a bag or not since we're creating this argument out of thin air without any support of actual facts.
But again, your definition of requirements is contingent on an option for the employee. come again, what's your definition of employee time? what's the concept of work-related? I like how people don't think riding the bus to work is not a definition of employee time or work-related. doesn't the rules dictate i have to get to work on time as well?
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No. Not accurate.
see i can do it too.
Apple certainly doesn't own you. You also are not entitled for a job. Guess who needs the other person more? If apple needs the worker more than simple economics would've fixed this issue.
It seems we have become a country of sheep who do whatever the big corporations say we should do.
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