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Your choice, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, generally not allowed but certainly a days supply can fit in pocket, your choice, fit in pocket or prop them on your head, fit in pocket.

thank you, like i said, everything but a book fits in your pocket.

but my pockets will be so full because i like totally have to bring all that stuff with me every day... :rolleyes:
 
i'm not that upset, i'm laughing at how pathetic the work force has become to demand being paid for their decision to bring a bag to work. :p



again, you act like everyone carries all of these items, give me a break.

And you act like no one does. See, we're even.
 
My brother just started a part time job at the chain grocery store Trader Joes. They started him out at $13 an hour for the entry level job. I think its criminal that one of the richest & most profitable companies Apple is paying its Apple Store workers a measly $8.25 an hour. That just blows my mind.

No one knows how much Apple pays their staff, just what they are rumored.then again they could start folks at $50 an hour and someone would gripe its not enough
 
Lunch carried in none disposable containers? Cutlery?
Epi-pens?
Asthma inhalers?
Sanitary towels?
Insulin?
Blood sugar tester?
Tampons?
Painkillers?
Book to read on break/lunch?
Glasses?
Wallet?

Your choice, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, fit in pocket, generally not allowed but certainly a days supply can fit in pocket, your choice, fit in pocket or prop them on your head, fit in pocket.

I'm a student. I want to bring my books and/or my iPad to and from class because I either come from school or go after my shift.

Pocket?
 
And you act like no one does. See, we're even.

no i said in a previous post that most people might need one or two items, that most likely fit in a pocket, a lunch can easily be brought in a plastic bag that you put in your pocket at the end of the day, and sure there might be a few employees left who "must" have a backpack.. Well now we have gotten rid of some of the search time and can more quickly accommodate those who "need" the bag.
 
Most every woman I know carries tampons/pads in their purse, not in their pockets.

That is their choice. If they know that their purse will be checked and want to avoid it, they can stick it in a pocket and leave that purse out of store. After all it's not like they will all be in that pocket at the end of the day, we don't take them home to wash and reuse.
 
There are almost no reasons why a person has to bring a bag. Maybe someone like an insulin dependent diabetic, then again they are likely to bring just enough supplies for the day and those will be tossed if they use them. If not they could end up left on site so they won't be forgotten at home. A girl needing tampons, again used and trashed.heck they can even be in a pocket. Last I checked no one was patting down employees pants etc to make sure they went hiding iPads in those giant pockets.

Again, I've listed several items that people may have to carry that aren't disposable.

You seem to be only looking at this from your own point of view, and not seeing that other people have different needs than you, despite several people showing you otherwise.

I've listed about 6 or 7 just from my own experience. There's a guy where I work that has severe vision problems. He can see (barely), but needs to carry a white stick for crossing roads coming in and out of work. Where should he keep that?

There's also people who have to wear hearing aids at home and at work, but not necessarily while travelling. They bring them to work in a bag, because that's the most sensible way of transporting them, and they often can't afford two sets.

There's about 30 or 40 people in my building who cycle to work. They have helmets and other equipment that often needs carrying *in a bag*.

There's also people I work with who have medical issues that are really quite personal. They'd rather keep things related to that in a bag, hidden away, so that they don't have to be judged by people less tolerant than some. A really good place to keep those things is in a bag.

There's a reason lots of people use bags - they're really handy, they give you privacy, they save you money in the long run (my satchel cost £3 in a sale, I've had it for 3 years). Stop telling people what they do and do not need to do based on your limited experiences of your own life. It's asinine, borderline offence to those who it dismisses, and wrong on a number of levels. People are calling you out on it. Listen to them.
 
if you think about it the other way, why should apple have to pay you because you CHOSE to bring a bag to work?

If you bring a bag, expect to be searched. Leave everything except your lunch in your car a locker. Should the people who bring the most bags get paid the most for search time? The more bags you bring, the more money you make.

does every employee have to cary every one of these items? Do most not easily fit in your pocket? For the few that may need a backpack sure, but stop acting like every person who has to carry one little thing needs a freakin backpack... UNREAL!!

It is still the employee's choice to bring a bag, their laptop etc.

There are almost no reasons why a person has to bring a bag. Maybe someone like an insulin dependent diabetic, then again they are likely to bring just enough supplies for the day and those will be tossed if they use them. If not they could end up left on site so they won't be forgotten at home. A girl needing tampons, again used and trashed.heck they can even be in a pocket. Last I checked no one was patting down employees pants etc to make sure they went hiding iPads in those giant pockets.

I have provided many examples and solutions for people who think they "need" a bag... truth is hardly anyone "needs" a bag...

You've yet to give one valid reason why someone has to bring a bag into work. A reason with no other possible solution. And a reason where that bag has to leave work at any point.

And that you want to play games on your iPad is not a reason.

everything on that list except a book fits in your pocket jesus

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No matter how many work-arounds, suggestions or reasons why someone might not "need" to bring a bag to work. The fact remains, because they can, end of. It's not the bag search they're complaining about, its the time they have to wait before a search can be carried out. Just because you can avoid this if you potentially greatly inconvenience yourself does not excuse the fact that Apple is keeping employers back on their own time.

So stop suggesting ways how people can possibly do without a bag, because that isn't the point. And even then, people SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FIND WORKAROUNDS, to avoid Apple wrongly holding people back behind work hours because of their inadequate system. I admit we've had some real knee-slappers so far.

I'll list some of my favourites.

  1. Leave life saving medicine in the Car
  2. Carry everything you require (Including food and drink) in your pockets
  3. Leave everything you own in the Car (If you walk, bike or catch the bus. Tough)
 
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That being said I am glad I am salary but that comes at a cost 2. I can be stop out the door to do something. Hell I have been stopped after I was all pack up and heading out the door for an emergency that came out. 3 hours later I went home but I am salary. That is fine. Hourly you are damn straight they would of had to pay me for that and it would of been over time hours.

Yes indeed I've been on salary for a long time now so I know exactly what you mean. There's no regard for the off time as its always the O'Clock ish time.
 
You've yet to give one valid reason why someone has to bring a bag into work. A reason with no other possible solution. And a reason where that bag has to leave work at any point.

And that you want to play games on your iPad is not a reason.

I carry epi-pens which don't fit in my pocket. My decision not to carry them could cost me my life.

No mention of an iPad.
 
I'm a student. I want to bring my books and/or my iPad to and from class because I either come from school or go after my shift.

Pocket?

It was your choice to have your schedule that way rather than putting your classes together and making those days your not available.

YOUR choice, not Apple. They are not requiring you to have it as part of your job. Leave it in car, rearrange your schedule Etc.
 
If you bring a bag, expect to be searched. Leave everything except your lunch in your car a locker. Should the people who bring the most bags get paid the most for search time? The more bags you bring, the more money you make.

Bringing a bag to work is reasonable. Women carry purses. Pretty much all of them do in the US. They use it for important things such as IDs, phones, money, mace, etc. I think anytime an HOURLY worker is doing something on behalf of their employer, they should be compensated for it. I do not understand why some people are against this lawsuit or at least the spirit of it because perhaps the details in this case are not accurate. However, I get the impression that some people have the attitude that an employer shouldn't compensate employees for all of their time. Just because you had to endure similar policies does not mean its ok. If this is a daily widespread practice then it should be factored into pay. Lots of employers make lots of money off their employees hard work and the employees deserve fair compensation. If this is just an occasional issue that is a small inconvenience then it cannot be helped. Or Apple could ban bringing bags into the workplace, but they should provide a locker to store it.
 
Yeah but you boot up your computer while you are already on your shift, you don't have to get 20 minutes earlier to ensure the computer is booted up by the time your shift starts.

Huh? Yes he is coming in early if he's waiting for the computer to boot before he clocks in.
 
like i have said before, i don't get paid for the time it takes to get through the security gate at my work... why should you get paid for the time it takes you to get through security at your work? We all have to do it, and it's literally maybe a minute or two a day max on most days.... not like you're losing some huge amount of money. On most days it would amount to pennies. You guys act like they are working all day for free.

I do get paid for time I'm required to be at work. Sometimes I'm on location. This usually means that I drive to a parking lot and get in a van to go to location. I am paid from the time I get in the van. That's just basic stuff. Why shouldn't I get paid for that time. Some times it's 2 min, some times it's 15 min. Either way, that's time I am and should be paid.
 
You get 30 minutes for lunch and know the security check will eat into your lunch time, why on earth would you bring anything more than something to pay for your lunch with you?

It's Johnny Cash's fault. :)

Because people working on a retail outlets wage might not be able to afford to eat out everyday. The only places nearby might be greasy junkfood places and they want healthier homemade food.
 
you just don't get it... you chose to bring a bag, you are the one forfeiting your time. Be grateful that you have an option. I have to go through security no matter what, I am not compensated for any extra time that that takes.

What is there not to get?? These employees aren't on salary to get their breaks, meals and on/off time when its available. Hourly employees have strict pay guidelines and so anything the company wants them to do, they have to pay them. Time is absolutely money down to minute!
 
It was your choice to have your schedule that way rather than putting your classes together and making those days your not available.

YOUR choice, not Apple. They are not requiring you to have it as part of your job. Leave it in car, rearrange your schedule Etc.

I live in New York City. No car. Now tell me why you are so anti labor
 
pretty positive apple will settle and this case will never be heard from again. there's a reason why there are people posting links to previous law suits and yet this is still happening. it's because nothing has changed. companies probably don't even want to deal with anything that makes it seem like they're nickle and diming their workers. You can bet a silver dollar this law suit was timed as an opportunity rather than an actual anger towards lost wages

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no, apple didn't require searches. apple would only require searches if they required you to bring a bag

You just said that apple didn't require searches, then said they did. If they require searches of anybody, what ever the criteria, they need to pay that person for their time.
 
  1. Leave life saving medicine in the Car
  2. Carry everything you require (Including food and drink) in your pockets
  3. Leave everything you own in the Car (If you walk, bike or catch the bus. Tough)

Yep.

Honestly there is a lot of items I would not want to leave in my car out of security reasons and where I live heat issues.

Laptops do not take a 150+ degree temps very well. I have had cell phones shut down in my car because they over heated. So a back pack with things like maybe a laptop or computer stuff in it and a change of clothing is fine. I remember when I work hourly I would sometimes bring in a bag with a change of clothing in it for after my shift. I would get off clock out go change then head out. I was not heading home afterwards so I needed a change of clothing.
Now days I still sometimes bring into work a change of clothing. Often times that change is either me dressing up or changing into some athlete clothing as I can and do often wear T-Shirt and jeans to work.
 
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