Apple Retail Employees Getting Smaller Raises of Approximately 4% in 2023

[nathansz]

You don’t agree with facts so the person that states them is a racist. Wow, haven’t heard that one before.

You didn’t make any statement of fact be it true or false,

So once again, are you claiming that “in a few years” Apple retail stores are going to be staffed with undocumented migrants, or “illegal immigrants” as you like to call them?

Yes or no?

 

[nathansz]

There’s more to the thread than where you picked up on it. And as it’s been said already, yes DACA recipients are eligible. There are hundreds of thousands of people that are willing to work for nothing. HR departments across the country can’t wait to take advantage of all this cheap labor.

Are you claiming that immigration drives down wages?

Yes or no?

 

[Chuckeee]

Eight years of Clinton, and almost 12 of Obama,

By law, Obama only served 2 terms, that is 8 years. Not sure where your “almost 12” years came from.

 

[nathansz]

By law, Obama only served 2 terms, that is 8 years. Not sure where your “almost 12” years came from.

I didn’t even catch that.

Looking forward to the story behind this one

 

[seek3r]

By law, Obama only served 2 terms, that is 8 years. Not sure where your “almost 12” years came from.

I didn’t even catch that.

Looking forward to the story behind this one

I'd bet he's trying to insinuate that biden is a puppet of obama, it's one of the many absolutely stupid talking points I've seen circulating recently from the few right wing folks I still have friended on facebook.

 

[bgillander]

The economic illiteracy on display in this thread (and the country at-large) is breathtaking, but clearly par for the course. As I learned in my Econ 1 class back in community college from a professor who was not particularly friendly towards capitalism, but was honest, "Words like 'should' and 'could' are value judgments. They don't belong in economics." When you say "Apple should pay more" or "Apple could pay more", you are not discussing economics; you are making a value judgment, which may hold some kind of value somewhere - but not in the realm of discussing the price for goods and services (which includes labor).

Here's the bummer of the truth: labor is like any other commodity, and the price of labor (i.e. "compensation") is determined by the same mechanism as all other commodities: supply and demand. If Apple, or anyone else, tried to truly underpay their employees, they wouldn't have any employees, or there'd be such a turnover that Apple would lose money on the cost of filling empty positions and training those new workers. I know this sounds cold and unfeeling, but economics is not about feelings. It's about studying human behavior and the allocation of scarce resources. Don't like it? There's only one alternative to the market economy: a command economy. Command economies have born out, in every instance, surpluses and shortages of goods - in other words, an inefficient allocation of scarce resources.

That said, there are many serious problems with our market economy, and not only in the sense of "all human institutions are flawed", which is certainly true. We have unique flaws in our system that I would love to see addressed, but the forces that created these problems are the same forces that prevent their being addressed - and those forces reside in all political parties and the big government bureaucracy, big business, and big labor. That understandably created the reactionary response of "burn it all down" - but then what? A command economy? No, thank you. Better everyone learn a thing or two about economics (not talking about deep dives... just a basic introduction to microeconomics and macroeconomics from a source that isn't predisposed towards Marx and his pathetic failures in predicting the future of capitalism).

Market economies can theoretically be fixed; command economies are flawed by their very nature.

That is a very binary, scholarly view. Even the most market driven economies have some rules, and many of those rules effectively add some facets of planned economies to them. That “only alternative” is like saying there is only black and white, while every current economy is actually some shade of grey.

 

[Razorpit]

By law, Obama only served 2 terms, that is 8 years. Not sure where your “almost 12” years came from.

I didn’t even catch that.

Looking forward to the story behind this one

I'd bet he's trying to insinuate that biden is a puppet of obama, it's one of the many absolutely stupid talking points I've seen circulating recently from the few right wing folks I still have friended on facebook.

Don’t shoot the messenger, just using his words. He‘s definitely got his front man. 😂

 

[nathansz]

Don’t shoot the messenger, just using his words. He‘s definitely got his front man. 😂

So you are taking something something someone said on a comedy show and using it to make a claim about what is actually happening?

Do you actually believe that Joe Biden is wearing an earpiece and saying what Barack Obama tells him to say?!?!!!??

You might have your foil hat on a little bit tight.

 

[Razorpit]

So you are taking something something someone said on a comedy show and using it to make a claim about what is actually happening?

Do you actually believe that Joe Biden is wearing an earpiece and saying what Barack Obama tells him to say?!?!!!??

You might have your foil hat on a little bit tight.

Again, just because you don’t know about it doesn’t make it a conspiracy. They are literally telling us what’s going on.

White House: Biden Consults with Obama on 'A Range of Issues'

'They describe themselves as having a mentor-mentee relationship, but it does not appear that they agree on who the mentor is.'

www.westernjournal.com

 

[nathansz]

Again, just because you don’t know about it doesn’t make it a conspiracy. They are literally telling us what’s going on.

White House: Biden Consults with Obama on 'A Range of Issues'

'They describe themselves as having a mentor-mentee relationship, but it does not appear that they agree on who the mentor is.'

www.westernjournal.com

the only thing actually reported in that article is that they talk on the phone some times. that hardly makes Obama the president