If you're dishing out > $10K for what's basically a supercomputer for the masses, will you really want anything that fits into 3.5" bays? I wouldn't dare throw HDDs into this machine. I guess some people still need optical drives, but the external ones seem to do the job just fine.
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Apple Reveals All-New Mac Pro With Up to 28-Core Processor and 1.5TB of RAM, Starting at $5,999
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If you're dishing out > $10K for what's basically a supercomputer for the masses, will you really want anything that fits into 3.5" bays? I wouldn't dare throw HDDs into this machine. I guess some people still need optical drives, but the external ones seem to do the job just fine.
The wannabes outnumber the pros a million to 1 though. So its lost revenue for Apple!
Well, it is for professionals. Professional video editors and professional musicians (the few who still make serious money from their craft) will love this machine. Basically, any professional that has a corporation writing the check to pay for this will love it.
The self financed professionals - youtubers, professional photographers, one to two man coding shops - will find this is priced out of their league.
Apple should have said 2 years ago when they went on the record with this remake of the Mac Pro that they viewed the professional market as one that will drop $10K on a modular Mac and a display without breaking a sweat. For a company that used to define a Pro Mac user as someone who could plunk down $3-4K for a Mac and $1500 for a display - no modular Mac for you! Keep your eyes over there, on the iMacs and Mac minis. Those are your professional options, and you'll like 'em!
Seriously, talk about 'being careful what you wish for'....
The self financed professionals - youtubers, professional photographers, one to two man coding shops - will find this is priced out of their league.
Apple should have said 2 years ago when they went on the record with this remake of the Mac Pro that they viewed the professional market as one that will drop $10K on a modular Mac and a display without breaking a sweat. For a company that used to define a Pro Mac user as someone who could plunk down $3-4K for a Mac and $1500 for a display - no modular Mac for you! Keep your eyes over there, on the iMacs and Mac minis. Those are your professional options, and you'll like 'em!
Seriously, talk about 'being careful what you wish for'....
I’m certainly not that torn up considering I’m not in the market and never will be
I'd say they nailed it. I just wish I was 'pro' enough to justify the price 
The crowd of critics is nothing new. This is a marvel of design meetings engineering requirements.
The only future change will come with AMD CPUs replacing Intel, but not until AMD can provide Ryzen Zen2+ APUs for Macbooks/Macbook Pros in the form of 6/8/12 core CPUs/APU Navi, and Ryzen Zen2+ CPUs for the iMac/iMac Pro/Mac Pro in the form of 8/12/16/32/64 core CPUs with Navi and Navi Compute for iMac Pro/Mac Pro. That'll be in the next 12 months.
The only future change will come with AMD CPUs replacing Intel, but not until AMD can provide Ryzen Zen2+ APUs for Macbooks/Macbook Pros in the form of 6/8/12 core CPUs/APU Navi, and Ryzen Zen2+ CPUs for the iMac/iMac Pro/Mac Pro in the form of 8/12/16/32/64 core CPUs with Navi and Navi Compute for iMac Pro/Mac Pro. That'll be in the next 12 months.
I agree, too, with the people pointing out how this Mac has gone TOO high end for most people who previously considered themselves "Pro" Mac users. I mean, fine ... maybe they didn't deserve the title of "Pro". (I've always said most of them were more accurately "enthusiast/power users", but those terms aren't as catchy as a sales tag-line on a product....)
But a whole lot of us DID want a machine that had internal expansion cards in it and some real, viable video card upgrade options for it, while still being in the price range of "somewhere under $3,500-4000".
One reason I was anxiously awaiting this one was to see if rumors came true that it might start out much more inexpensive, as kind of a "mini tower variation of the Mac Mini", where you could do modular expansions to stack onto it to make it into a really powerful workstation. There were always nay-sayers about that theory .... Some technical claims that there would be too many slowdowns connecting the pieces together via a bus and supporting chips that it would require. Maybe that was true?
But this does disappoint me, in the sense I was always willing to dump the money into whatever Apple's "best" machine was, and then get my money's worth out of it over a number of years of good, reliable use. I had a 2006 Mac Pro that I still had in regular service for about 7 years, doing various tasks. That one was well worth the small loan I had to take out to buy it when it first came out. This time? This is just too much, especially when I consider this $6000 "base model" won't even include nearly enough SSD storage space for my needs.
But a whole lot of us DID want a machine that had internal expansion cards in it and some real, viable video card upgrade options for it, while still being in the price range of "somewhere under $3,500-4000".
One reason I was anxiously awaiting this one was to see if rumors came true that it might start out much more inexpensive, as kind of a "mini tower variation of the Mac Mini", where you could do modular expansions to stack onto it to make it into a really powerful workstation. There were always nay-sayers about that theory .... Some technical claims that there would be too many slowdowns connecting the pieces together via a bus and supporting chips that it would require. Maybe that was true?
But this does disappoint me, in the sense I was always willing to dump the money into whatever Apple's "best" machine was, and then get my money's worth out of it over a number of years of good, reliable use. I had a 2006 Mac Pro that I still had in regular service for about 7 years, doing various tasks. That one was well worth the small loan I had to take out to buy it when it first came out. This time? This is just too much, especially when I consider this $6000 "base model" won't even include nearly enough SSD storage space for my needs.
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Any chance you could post a link toa pc part picker build list? I am looking to build something on the PC side for C4D now that I see these prices. Thanks.
My past professional computer only cost around $3000. And it ain't the tools, it's the user.
The specs indicate it’s 4 TB3 in the base model (2 on top, 2 on the default apple i/o card in the 1/2 length pci slot which also has the 2 USB-a ports).
The Vega cards add 4x TB3 each.
I don't know how APPL will survive without my support. And now you...
A Mac Pro is for the people who need the power and flexibility. Everyone else can make do with a iMac Pro or MacBook Pro.
The Mac Pro will be paid for many times over with the work people produce.
Thank you. In Jobs terms, We've been asking for a nice midsize pickup truck like they used to make... think Ford Ranger or Chevy Colorado. Apple says you want a pickup truck? Here's a $90,000 Ford F450 with semi truck wheels and tires, dual rear wheels, and every luxury feature you can imagine. Oh, and our steering wheel requires $1500 screws to mount it to the car.
I love that this thing can be ordered in rack mountable config. This computer appears to be really beautifully designed and will be monstrously powerful. I tip my hat to Apple.
They aren't forcing out the Pros from a Mac. They might be forcing out the semi-Pros.
Pretty crazy for a Mac Pro and I do like the design. I have an older pro at home for music and the new price tag is way to high to upgrade that's for sure. Working in IT in the past for an Art department/Manufacturing company, I doubt the CFO would have approved such a high purchase for just one computer. We had 34 Macs back then...All pros too.
I'm sure it's wonderful machine.
I'm sure it's wonderful machine.
I'd say they nailed it. I just wish I was 'pro' enough to justify the price
Studios for Logic and FCP and more are going to buy these in droves, including the monitors.
Apple makes plenty of machines that are appropriate for people who need reasonably powerful machines but don’t NEED a $6K+ Mac Pro.
These will bring the pros in. These machines will be a write-down by any business owner with a brain.
Ok ... seriously? I see all the specs of this thing and I understand why it's going to have a high price.
But, only a 256GB SSD in the "entry level" model for $6000? I *do* take issue with that. I honestly can't see why you'd have less than 1TB of storage in a workstation at this price-point, this far into 2019? Even if the argument is that, "Some people just won't need or use it all.", it's not THAT much more expensive to provide a larger SSD. It should have been in there so people who otherwise are satisfied with the base configuration won't start out the gate with insufficient disk space as they put their photo, video and music collections on there for projects.
But, only a 256GB SSD in the "entry level" model for $6000? I *do* take issue with that. I honestly can't see why you'd have less than 1TB of storage in a workstation at this price-point, this far into 2019? Even if the argument is that, "Some people just won't need or use it all.", it's not THAT much more expensive to provide a larger SSD. It should have been in there so people who otherwise are satisfied with the base configuration won't start out the gate with insufficient disk space as they put their photo, video and music collections on there for projects.