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Apple Reveals All-New Mac Pro With Up to 28-Core Processor and 1.5TB of RAM, Starting at $5,999

venom600 said:
Don't do that. You know very well that you asked if I was asking for a pro computer at "consumer" prices. No, no one offers a case like the Mac Pro. Everyone does offer pro computers at lower price points. Don't act like wanting a $2500 machine that has good thermals and expansion and doesn't saddle you with a monitor you don't need is absurd. Right now if you don't want a monitor from Apple your choices are a Mac Mini for a grand or a Mac Pro for 6 grand. There needs to be something in between.
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Also, other manufacturers will of course be selling PC’s with Windows 10. I have used Windows 10 quite a bit and it’s the most horrible OS I’ve used to date. The amount of hoops you have to jump through just to get some tasks done is only the beginning of the problems.
 
It doesn't look big enough to store any internal 3.5" drives. The 2006-2012 Mac Pro had internal slots for 4 drives. That is the main thing I have been looking forward to in a new Mac Pro and is the main reason I haven't upgraded past my 2010 Mac Pro. We are just supposed to have all our storage in external drives from now on? I don't want all those wires.
 
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I am definitely not the target market for this beast, and I'm a little conflicted about out the more aggressive cheese grater styling, but I think this is an awesome piece of computing hardware, and if I actually needed one, I'd definitely buy one. Powerful!
 
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neuropsychguy said:
That's an extreme (and untrue statement). Just because you might need CUDA and many others (including myself) need CUDA doesn't mean everyone does. Most people are not using CUDA. I would love an option with NVIDIA (and that will prevent me from buying this) but Radeon GPUs are great. If you're doing video and photo (and gaming), they are solid. Applications like Blender (just an example) offer OpenCL acceleration in addition to CUDA (yes, I know OpenCL tends to be a little slower). One downside to CUDA is it is proprietary. It's great and some of the research tools I use can have CUDA acceleration but this isn't really for the small subset of people who must have CUDA.
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Sorry, but many 3d renderers use CUDA. Also Adobe apps work much better with Cuda than openCL. OpenCL is not only slow, but it can also make apps crash. I’ll avoid it if possible.

I do have new iMac and MBP, but all ”real” videowork and design is done with proper Xeon workstatuon with multiple Nvidia GPUs.
 
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elvislives said:
Finally Apple have re-entered the (Pro) market again. :)
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Working in one of the bigger post houses on the east cost, I (along with most of our staff)...think as most are saying...this machine/monitor is aimed at the very extreme pro high end market...I'm talking high end movie studios, high end color places, higher end creative agencies, etc. I'd called these people the 'XPros' that bring in multi hundred K or million dollar jobs

Apple seems to have lost it's understanding of what their other "Pro" market is which is the majority of us looking for a modular tower that is also "AFFORDABLE" like their previous towers were back in the mid 2000s (I'm sorry inflation hasn't gone up that much)

The majority of "Pro" don't need 6k-8K and need more standard HD/4K workflows.

This machine/monitor is aimed at the most 10-20% of their pro user base.
 
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Stephen.R said:
You need to be specific about “pro” then. It sounds like you just want what I described, a desktop tower with some expansion.

And it’s fine to want that, but don’t imagine that this is the same as that. The competition for this machine is ridiculously priced HP workstations which - surprise - also have expensive, non consumer components like Xeons, ECC memory etc.
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Thats a really old fashioned way of thinking , you know that? Please tell me what a well cooled Threadripper 32 core 64 thread based PC couldnt do that this could? My Threadripper never, EVER goes above 75 degrees. And thats average cooling A full watercooled loop would be even lower.

In fact , i would bet that the Ryzen 3900x 12c/24t would destroy the base 8 core Xeon and that CPU is £499
 
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Brian Y said:
Oh come on with the SSD gouging. $5999 base with a 256G SSD is insulting.
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Do you realize that you can buy the base model and upgrade the RAM, CPU and storage for waaaaay cheaper?
You can easily throw a 1TB Samsung 970 EVO NVME for $229 + $20 on a M.2 to PCIe adapter, you are actually ignoring what makes this machine good
 
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Waited for the MacPro for a while but i feel like i am staying with what i have now. Will i buy another MacPro again probably not. Maybe an Imac for my casual use and church video editing. I have set my limits on my spending on Pc. So far this MacPro goes over my limit. Anyways it has been interesting on reading the post from everyone. Hey my macbook pro 2013 is still running like new. My custom made pc still working the way i wanted. Anyways gent take care.
 
macsimcon said:
It doesn't look like the CPU or the storage is modular.
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From the product web page the SSD is clearly modular. The CPU shows clips that are screwed onto the motherboard so I wouldn't be surprised if that can be swapped as well.
 
I like it. Both, specs/power and design (personal taste, of course).

Surely pricey. Especially the monitor, let alone the stand.

If I could ever afford a Mac Pro I would match it with a more "traditional" EIZO monitor.

The whole WWDC was interesting, actually. Some nice features has been introduced.
 
Ok, not bad.

No internal drive bays, but I wasn't expecting them. And sure, it's ugly, but I really don't care what it looks like, it's gonna be in a rack anyway. I don't need the GPUs, but it's got plenty of card slots so I can connect a lot of storage and not be stuck running it over Thunderbolt. Lots of RAM and lots of cores means this thing is going to be a virtualization beast. I can see installing quite a few of these things.

Disappointments: Only a single processor socket. Sure, 28 cores is nice, but wouldn't 56 be better, especially when you can load up RAM like that? Single power supply. I'd rather have seen dual hot-swappable supplies. It doesn't seem to have lights-out management. And I don't know that the internal SSDs will be used for anything, maybe I'd put some emergency tools on there, maybe not. That T2 encryption isn't a feature, it's a bug, backups are great and all, but sometimes data recovery needs to be able to happen and tying the disk encryption to the logic board is NOT a good thing.
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milo said:
From the product web page the SSD is clearly modular. The CPU shows clips that are screwed onto the motherboard so I wouldn't be surprised if that can be swapped as well.
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Yeah, that's definitely a socketed processor.
 
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benshive said:
Apple creates exactly what Mac fans have been asking for for years and, surprise surprise, more complaining. I definitely didn't see that coming ;)
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Except it's not exactly what Mac fans have been asking for. The original cheesegrater G5 started at $2k. Even fully loaded with a 20 inch cinema display, it was less than $6k. The intel cheesegrater was even cheaper!

What we've been asking for is a workstation that's expandable. That means the prices run a wide gamut. For those of us who don't need X,Y,Z we can get a machine without X,Y,Z.

It's like covering the whole thing in diamonds, and then saying "what? if you compare the cost of the diamonds, this thing is a steal!" Well, I don't want a computer encrusted in diamonds.
 
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Amazing specification & hardware, but unfortunately Tim Cook wants to squeeze out of hobby or professional's money.

It makes me wonder how much more money that will keep you happy Mr Tim Cook or shareholders?
 
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Interesting. I'm actually curious why this took so long.

I mean, unless I'm missing something, this is a tower. The airflow design seems cool (har, har). I actually really like the way it comes apart.

I'm not sad this is back in the fold. (Can't say I love the new look but... so much design is change for the sake of change anyway.) I just cannot figure out why this took so long to release. It's a tower. We've had these for a long time. They even used to make them.

Just weird.
 
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R3k said:
God. Years of Pros whining about wanting nothing but a new expandable cheese grater like the classic Mac Pro. Apple listens and makes one, and now everyone is bitching about it. I swear most of you just come here to bitch.
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Yea, EVERYONE is bitching about it.

Umm theres tons of posts praising this new mac pro, but apparently YOU (and a few others) just want to bitch about the handful of people who have some issues with it.

You’re as bad as the people on the other side bitching about the looks of this thing.
 
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