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Apple Reveals All-New Mac Pro With Up to 28-Core Processor and 1.5TB of RAM, Starting at $5,999

If you don't like it, buy a junking PC or if you want to save some money with a iMac Pro. But when fall comes and I am super cruising with my new Mac Pro, that I purchased and got a discount with my new Apple card. Along with 5 years from now still using the same computer or 10 years from now when i retire this machine and get my new 2029 computer. I will have great memories, oh shoot my Window 10 blue screened again :)
 
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macjunkie2013 said:
Whoo hoo finally!

Thankyou Apple, glad to see the " 2013 Can" sent to the can. As a former owners of a G4 Cube, G5, etc this one finally makes sense. I actually switched to Hackintosh for several years because of the 2013 NMP. I switched back to a 2010 CMP 2 years ago because I got tired of dealing with the OS hacking.

Like stated above, in-between the inevitable complaints about price ("I can build a same performance PC for 1/2 $...utter lies!) and aesthetics, Apple has developed the fastest PC they possibly could. If actual test numbers are close to their numbers, this is exactly what Apple needs for Pro customers.

Yeh it costs a lot, but what actual high-end PC does not? Would be nice to see a Nvidia option...
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I would put my Threadripper up against the 8 core ANY DAY and smash it. Cost me less than half to build. How is that lies?? I have double the cores, double the ram, 8x the gpu performance, tons more storage and cost half. Apple going lose even more pros with these insane prices
 
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I want this monitor, but my stupid bank account disagree with me. Well, I hope it hints something we should find on the next iMAC.
 
PickUrPoison said:
Seems like it might be exactly what actual users (not MR forum Apple-hate posters) need. Looks like they’re using the Skylake-SP processors, not the W-series.

1.5TB of RAM, nice. 8 PCIe slots (4 double wide)—not anywhere close to the “stacked Mac mini” concept some envisioned.

Maybe the most important thing—the end of the “Apple doesn’t care about the Mac anymore” BS. Complaints will continue about pricing, but those whiners were never going to buy a Mac Pro (or any Mac, probably) in the first place.
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if you read, the tech specs say Xeon W series
 
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1. It is not for everyone. Not about the money involved, but the power it offers. If you need the power of this, you should have some clients who pay you to buy it.

2. The design is not a good one. Wait, whose in charge of the industrial design again? Where is the well-made footages?

3. What if I just buying the monitor alone? No legs whatsoever? Or some generic ones like a 32" SAMSUNG TV?
 
Did anyone else notice the "silver and black" keyboard and mouse/trackpad this comes with? No photos, but the illustration seems to insinuate this is a new color combo for these accessories. Also - what is the "Apple USB-C to Lightning Pro Cable" ??
 
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Stephen.R said:
So you want a pro-level workstation... for consumers?
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Don't act like that's an absurd request. Literally every manufacturer but Apple does it. Until the Mac Pro a pro level tower with full expansion could be had for less than $2000.As several people here have noted, being a pro doesn't mean you can justify a $6,000 computer just to get something like decent internal expansion and cooling. It isn't unreasonable to want them to stick the internals of an iMac into that chassis with adequate cooling and expansion and charge $2500 for it, and that's including the apple tax for that incredible case.
 
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I'm shocked.

It's pretty much exactly what many of us have been begging for since 2013.

It's a freakin' miracle.

Thank you to the brave bothans who must have had Jonny tied up in a broom closet while this was being designed!

I suspect that at least some of what seems like excessive cost at the entry point can be blamed on the one-size-to-fit-all-configs 1.4kw power supply and the custom GPU card interface they used to connect the GPU to the system wide TB3?

If they made a zero GPU version and offered a smaller power supply (upgradable later) available, I suspect the entry price would be closer to what many had hoped?

Perhaps these options could show up in the rack mount version? Time will tell.

I can't wait for iFixit to tear one apart and see if the CPUs are soldered or not... fingers crossed...

I didn't expect Apple to come close to this, so haven't begun to set the funds aside to upgrade, but could see one of these in my future.

The display on the other hand? Not including the vesa adaptor or the stand in the $4999 price takes some stones... The stand reminds me way too much the the iMac G4 arm... So, hard pass, especially at that price.. Hope the after-market steps up on that... And all the talk about HDR and photography then ignoring the fact that they could use this as an opportunity to make some of use really happy, and bring back Aperture? Oh well.
 
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neuropsychguy said:
That's an extreme (and untrue statement). Just because you might need CUDA and many others (including myself) need CUDA doesn't mean everyone does. Most people are not using CUDA. I would love an option with NVIDIA (and that will prevent me from buying this) but Radeon GPUs are great. If you're doing video and photo (and gaming), they are solid. Applications like Blender (just an example) offer OpenCL acceleration in addition to CUDA (yes, I know OpenCL tends to be a little slower). One downside to CUDA is it is proprietary. It's great and some of the research tools I use can have CUDA acceleration but this isn't really for the small subset of people who must have CUDA.
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This is over my head because I don't need computers doing these things, but is there any reason one couldn't run NVIDIA or other CUDA capable GPUs in a separate enclosure via Thunderbolt? Would that be significantly slower than cards deployed on the main bus(es)?
 
Well now is you chance to get the old Mac Pro unit at a discount if you want to save some money on a Mac If money is your problem. But in my book the new Mac Pro is a better deal with real expansion and upgrade capability that will last for 10 years with out a problem. I am looking forward to the fall seeing the three week backlog of system orders and people crying that it is taking them a month to get their new computer. And people posting why is it taking so long to get my computer. I am ordering day one!
 
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MauiPa said:
if you read, the tech specs say Xeon W series
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Yeah, the next gen W-series. Apple mentions 300W of power to the CPU, 64 PCIe lanes and 6-channel RAM. Has Intel added the CPUs to the ARK yet?

Now that the specs are posted, it’s apparent this thing is a monster, for its target market. But if you need a dual CPU, HP Z4 type box and can drop $50-100k, this isn’t for you.
 
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Nunyabinez said:
If you are complaining about the cost, it is likely that you are not using your machine directly to produce income.

When you look at what what you can do when your computer is the means to generating income, then it is clear that this beast will pay for itself with the increased productivity.

For REAL professionals, it is an investment that pays off. For the wannabes it is an expense that is hard to justify.
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While I agree with your sentiment that people who need this type of machine will surely buy it for your stated reasons, calling those that don’t need this much potential power (ex. almost every Audio professional), or simply can not afford it, a wannabe, showcases your lack of experience as a business owner, for all to see. Not the mention the unbelievably childish tone in which you chose to express yourself in.

Sounds like that Minecraft update is more up your alley.
 
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PickUrPoison said:
Seems like it might be exactly what actual users (not MR forum Apple-hate posters) need. Looks like they’re using the Skylake-SP processors, not the W-series. [Edit: actually a new generation of Xeon W.]

1.5TB of RAM, nice. 8 PCIe slots (4 double wide)—not anywhere close to the “stacked Mac mini” concept some envisioned.

Maybe the most important thing—the end of the “Apple doesn’t care about the Mac anymore” BS. Complaints will continue about pricing, but those whiners were never going to buy a Mac Pro (or any Mac, probably) in the first place.
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or did you mean cascade Lake-SP?
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In one of the Mac Pro threads, the question was who was this machine for? My answer was Final Cut and Logic customers. If you do really demanding work in either of those 2 programs, Apple has amazing hardware.

If you do something like Octane or Redshift rendering, it remains to be seen if the Mac Pro will compete with the RTX enhancements that nVidia cards bring.

Apple could have announced nVidia eGPU support and I would have been over the moon. I remain cautiously optimistic with Redshift getting a port to metal and supporting the Mac.

But the cost of the Mac pro.... my god.
 
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Fantastic. Looks great. Buttons and ports on top, placed knowing this will be on the floor under a desk. So maybe easier to reach from sitting!

It’s an industrial looking piece of kit for industry. It’s a box with a price tag that can be applied against a job with an even bigger price tag.

For example a big budget movie budget would accommodate 50-100 or whatever number of these for post production planning. It’s a few entries on a big spreadsheet.

This is like Next, it was aimed at the university market. They had the budgets and need. Oh look what happened we got the WWW out of that! Ya gotta always be thinking big...

Well just wait for those post production machines to filter back to used market
 
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Encouraging. At least it's not another unserviceable*, thermally-gimped iMac design. Still, I'm disappointed that they didn't unveil a truly modular concept, where the hardware is a stack that could be built upon as the needs change and funds allow.

* Assuming it's configurable after purchase and repairable. Anxious to read the breakdown inspections.
 
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