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I envy the stones it takes to tell your audience that the display price does not include the $1k stand. :D

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No. Every manufacturer sells slightly bigger desktop PCs with a couple of extra drive bays and an m2 slot.

If that works for you, great. But this isn’t that.

Don't do that. You know very well that you asked if I was asking for a pro computer at "consumer" prices. No, no one offers a case like the Mac Pro. Everyone does offer pro computers at lower price points. Don't act like wanting a $2500 machine that has good thermals and expansion and doesn't saddle you with a monitor you don't need is absurd. Right now if you don't want a monitor from Apple your choices are a Mac Mini for a grand or a Mac Pro for 6 grand. There needs to be something in between.
 
Definitely not the best visual design but from usability, 9.5/10. Well done Apple.

Now if they could only build a mid-range monitor, I neither need nor want to spend $12k on two of these with stands... Overall though, I'm not going to complain, this was a very welcome hardware reveal.
 
Woo! I like.
Tempted to get one. I'm currently wondering if the CPU is modular, and you can drop in more or replacement cards in the future.

I don't like the expectation of such massive power consumption, but that's the way CPUs and GPUs are going at the moment anyway. And I guess it'll scale as needed.
 
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Woo! I like.
Tempted to get one. I'm currently wondering if the CPU is modular, and you can drop in more or replacement cards in the future.

It doesn't look like the CPU or the storage is modular. Typical Apple: you'll take what we give you, not what you want. And pay $6,000 for it.
 
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OK one nitpick, maybe not the most expandable Mac ever?


A Dual CPU option would be cool instead of one 28 core CPU, but 2x 14 core CPUs running at a higher clock? Not really sure if would be true?


Yes perhaps it would be an insane amount of $, but I am sure they could sell to those how have an insane amount of $.
 
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Wait you don't have to buy that apple display their are showing, their is always the LG 5k monitor that will will work fine with this new system. So if you are trying to save a little money buy the unit this year and a new display next year.
 
PCIe 4 is just hitting the market. Can you imagine the level of fomo knowing your $20K cheese grater can only write 2500MB/s sequential while some kid is doing 5000MB/s on his gaming PC?

No worries , Apple will have known that and are banking on you throwing your 6k pathethic spec mac Pro in the bin and coughing up another 6k
 
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Yes it would be slower, but I think the bigger concern has to be that lack of an NVIDIA option in this system could portend the end of NVIDIA cards on the Mac. It’s widely suspected that the two companies are at odds (leading to NVIDIA drivers being blocked from release), and this is a strong indication that the situation has not been resolved.

Apple controls all drivers. They and NVidea for some reason are not working together. It’s all about metal. Nvidia does not support it.
Thanks. I didn't know Apple had to control all the drivers (and I have also just learned that CUDA itself is proprietary to NVIDIA). Seems kind of crazy that Apple wouldn't want to make these beautiful machines work for the subset of people needing the data-crunching power of those GPUs. Wikipedia tells me that subset needs this power for:
  • push-relabel maximum flow algorithm
  • fast sort algorithms of large lists
  • two-dimensional fast wavelet transform
  • molecular dynamics simulations
  • machine learning
I don't know what all of that is, but just the machine learning must include an absolutely vast number of universities, students, and well-funded startups.
 
Everyone does offer pro computers at lower price points.
You need to be specific about “pro” then. It sounds like you just want what I described, a desktop tower with some expansion.

And it’s fine to want that, but don’t imagine that this is the same as that. The competition for this machine is ridiculously priced HP workstations which - surprise - also have expensive, non consumer components like Xeons, ECC memory etc.
 
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