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Agreed. There is no absolute need for MMS on the iPhone. I, and everyone I know would always rather email.

In fact, I would never use MMS.

Well, not everyone has email on their phones. Most of the people with cell phones just have a regular cell phone that can only make and receive calls and send texts. Believe it or not, not every person has a Blackberry or iPhone, so how do I send and receive pictures from 90% of my friends???
 
Well, not everyone has email on their phones. Most of the people with cell phones just have a regular cell phone that can only make and receive calls and send texts. Believe it or not, not every person has a Blackberry or iPhone, so how do I send and receive pictures from 90% of my friends???

True.

However, if a phone is capable of receiving MMS and was made in the last 3 years or so, it can still send MMS from the MMS client to an email address. The phone will also have a dedicated MMS email address tied to it, so if you send an email to that address, it will be received by the person as an MMS and they won't know the difference. No email client or data plan required.

The only thing that changes is swapping a phone number for an email address. To make this even easier, all the person has to do is add the email address you have synced with your iPhone to your contact info in their phone. Now they should be given the choice of whether to send it to your phone number or your email every time they write you an MMS. You can make your life easier by doing the same thing and adding their MMS email address to their contact info in your phone. Boom, done, simple.

Yes, I know email isn't instant on the iPhone at the moment, but 15 minutes hardly kills me. If someone sends me an MMS, it is usually meant to be funny, and I can deal with not getting it right away. If someone needs me right then and there, they will text me or call me like normal, they won't MMS me.

<shrug>
 
E-Mail = Spam that's why people don't bother with it on their mobiles, plus a lot of people have only yahoo / hotmail accounts where you can't get the mail on your phone unless you pay extra for pop, then they have to configure it!!

Plus the e-mail phonenum@operator.co.uk or whatever is very network dependant....

MMS is simple, easy to use, everyone has it (apart from iphone users) :p
 
True.

However, if a phone is capable of receiving MMS and was made in the last 3 years or so, it can still send MMS from the MMS client to an email address. The phone will also have a dedicated MMS email address tied to it, so if you send an email to that address, it will be received by the person as an MMS and they won't know the difference. No email client or data plan required.

The only thing that changes is swapping a phone number for an email address. To make this even easier, all the person has to do is add the email address you have synced with your iPhone to your contact info in their phone. Now they should be given the choice of whether to send it to your phone number or your email every time they write you an MMS. You can make your life easier by doing the same thing and adding their MMS email address to their contact info in your phone. Boom, done, simple.

Yes, I know email isn't instant on the iPhone at the moment, but 15 minutes hardly kills me. If someone sends me an MMS, it is usually meant to be funny, and I can deal with not getting it right away. If someone needs me right then and there, they will text me or call me like normal, they won't MMS me.

<shrug>

Thanks. What would their email address be though? I'm kinda confused about that. But thanks, so basically, the iPhone can receive and send pictures to other phones......... ?
 
Thanks. What would their email address be though? I'm kinda confused about that. But thanks, so basically, the iPhone can receive and send pictures to other phones......... ?

Verizon= theirphonenumber@vzwpix.com
At&t= theirphonenumber@mms.att.net

Theirphonenumber = their entire phone number + area code in one string, no dashes.

Everyone I share MMS messages with is on either At&t or Verizon, so those are the only two I know off hand.

The easiest way to find out is to tell your friends to send you an MMS and direct it to the email address you have synced with your iPhone. When you get it, you will see their MMS address in the "from" field. Just save it to their respective contact info(s) from there.
 
I hope this is true

I have had at least 10 instances in which MMS would have been handy, but I have coped by using email. I have received one MMS so far, but couldn't be bothered to jump through the hoops to view it.

I, for one, hope that MMS is coming soon to the iPhone, preferably also 1v.

Jude
 
E-Mail = Spam that's why people don't bother with it on their mobiles, plus a lot of people have only yahoo / hotmail accounts where you can't get the mail on your phone unless you pay extra for pop, then they have to configure it!!

Plus the e-mail phonenum@operator.co.uk or whatever is very network dependant....

MMS is simple, easy to use, everyone has it (apart from iphone users) :p

I read my yahoo mail on my crappy sprint phone and it's free.

it would be nice to have mms, there are those rare moments in life when you want to share an image with someone instantly when you are both away from a computer or email device. I wouldn't use it very much, but It would be nice for when I do. I think it is kinda silly that the iphone does not have it.

If apple really thought email was the way of the future for Phone 2 Phone image sharing then why didn't they get rid of text messaging in lieu of email?
 
If apple really thought email was the way of the future for Phone 2 Phone image sharing then why didn't they get rid of text messaging in lieu of email?
Because people need some kind of quick messaging service on their mobile? As opposed to email, which can only be set to check the server for new messages every 15 minutes, at most.
 
actually, viewmymessage.com works on my iphone for viewing mms messages

and the only problem I see with mms through email is the person receives a mms from my emai address, not my phone, so I have to send them a text letting them know that its coming and that its from me
 
actually, viewmymessage.com works on my iphone for viewing mms messages

and the only problem I see with mms through email is the person receives a mms from my emai address, not my phone, so I have to send them a text letting them know that its coming and that its from me

Is there a way to get viewmymessage.com to work easily? I could click on the link in the text message, but I had to manually write down the codes and enter them on the website (because there is no cut and paste). That is a major pain since it's sometimes hard to tell if the code had zeros or letter O's.
 
Verizon= theirphonenumber@vzwpix.com
At&t= theirphonenumber@mms.att.net

The easiest way to find out is to tell your friends to send you an MMS and direct it to the email address you have synced with your iPhone. When you get it, you will see their MMS address in the "from" field. Just save it to their respective contact info(s) from there.

On two month old Nokia (that I use for tethering) it is impossible to MMS to an email address in any form because the 'To' only accepts numbers - IIRC this is the same one every phone I used, but I thought I'd check just in case. Can you say with models of phone you have successfully been able to do this?

I believe this service must be a US only thing, since O2 also don't mention any kind of MMS to email service. If you receive on a non-mms phone it sends you to http://mediamessaging.o2.co.uk (well it's supposed to - what actually normally happens is it ignores it) - it doesn't convert to email.

Oh well, maybe someone will port SwirlyMMS (might have to wait for jailbreak though as it's a safe bet Apple won't condone such an app).
 
perhaps all you folks that don't ever use or want MMS don't have any friends to send or receive pictures from! :-0 On my old phones I used it all the time, and the e mail method for the iPhone is truly a PITA
 
Oh well, maybe someone will port SwirlyMMS (might have to wait for jailbreak though as it's a safe bet Apple won't condone such an app).

Why would they not? It would generate more carrier revenue.
 
Why would they not? It would generate more carrier revenue.

Because it's not something the SDK Apple released can do. It can't access the cell network to intercept an MMS, nor can it run programs in the background (like one waiting for MMS's to arrive). Apple strictly prohibits anything running in the background that they didn't write themselves.
 
On two month old Nokia (that I use for tethering) it is impossible to MMS to an email address in any form because the 'To' only accepts numbers - IIRC this is the same one every phone I used, but I thought I'd check just in case. Can you say with models of phone you have successfully been able to do this?

I believe this service must be a US only thing, since O2 also don't mention any kind of MMS to email service. If you receive on a non-mms phone it sends you to http://mediamessaging.o2.co.uk (well it's supposed to - what actually normally happens is it ignores it) - it doesn't convert to email.

Oh well, maybe someone will port SwirlyMMS (might have to wait for jailbreak though as it's a safe bet Apple won't condone such an app).


Every Windows Mobile phone I have used, BlackBerrys, Moto Razr, a Samsung flip I used to have, my wife's Sony-Ericsson 580i, etc.

Most every phone I have ever used honestly. Maybe it is a Nokia thing to not allow it?

I am not sure what you mean by convert either... MMS is a simplified form of email, which is why phones capable of MMS have a special MMS email address. You are just sending the MMS to that address.
 
Email doesn't give you notification.
Many people have texting but no Email.
Even for those who have Email when I tell them they have to Email me a photo they look at me like I'm crazy.
 
Verizon= theirphonenumber@vzwpix.com
At&t= theirphonenumber@mms.att.net

Theirphonenumber = their entire phone number + area code in one string, no dashes.

Everyone I share MMS messages with is on either At&t or Verizon, so those are the only two I know off hand.

The easiest way to find out is to tell your friends to send you an MMS and direct it to the email address you have synced with your iPhone. When you get it, you will see their MMS address in the "from" field. Just save it to their respective contact info(s) from there.

This is network dependent and relies on the network forwarding those messages from email to MMS - which most networks around the world do not do.

3 is on the only network in the UK to do this for example - none of the others will allow it in either direction.

Phazer
 
MMS is just another way that ATT would charge users for data that should be free with an iPhone plan, just like they are doing with texting. I am personally very happy that Apple is not allowing it to happen on their phone.
 
I am not sure what you mean by convert either... MMS is a simplified form of email, which is why phones capable of MMS have a special MMS email address. You are just sending the MMS to that address.

MMS is *far* from being a simplified form of anything.. I had the misfortune of reading through the specs once (and still have nightmares about it). It's unrelated to email. Just because some providers have gateways doesn't make them related.
 
MMS is just another way that ATT would charge users for data that should be free with an iPhone plan, just like they are doing with texting. I am personally very happy that Apple is not allowing it to happen on their phone.
AT&T's "texting" plans are inclusive of MMS. They don't differentiate between simple sms or MMS, so there would be no increase in price if Apple chose to support it.
 
AT&T's "texting" plans are inclusive of MMS. They don't differentiate between simple sms or MMS, so there would be no increase in price if Apple chose to support it.
I actually think this is the key as to why there is no MMS support. As part of the 5-year deal Apple made with ATT was the agreement that Apple not enable MMS. That way the ATT network is not bogged down with large MMS data packets that it doesn't charge for by "weight". Instead ATT forces us to buy a data package that it tiers the pricing to according to the amount of bandwidth we use. It's a conspiricy. :D
 
I don't hate the idea of MMS, I just would never use it. Like many others have said, if I want to send a picture to someone I'll just email it to them. That's what comes naturally to me and I would do the same thing even if the phone did have MMS. My 14 yo niece complains from time to time of the lack of MMS on her iPhone, but I'm sure if she knew how to send and receive via email she would see it as a viable alternative. I can't really say because I've never used MMS and therefore don't miss it.

@CrazEtooN, ha ha. That was sarcasm at its finest.
Well I would use it.
 
AT&T's "texting" plans are inclusive of MMS. They don't differentiate between simple sms or MMS, so there would be no increase in price if Apple chose to support it.

Some do, but others do not. I get 1500sms for $9/month and if I send an MMS from another phone I get charged separately for it. I think ATT even disabled MMS on peoples accounts who have an iPhone registered, so MMS is not included with the iPhone sms plan either.
 
They'd have to announce it everywhere if it was coming. There are lots of legal issues involved, because carriers are going to want to charge for them, and people already have contracts signed.
 
Wait till there is a death because they can't view the MMS video of CPR (emergency resuscitation) that's sent out by the emergency services.

Apple might implement it then...
 
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