The Mac Mini is probably part of the Mac Pro world now, hence the delay. If it truly is going to be a modular workstation, then it may start at base as a Mini and work all the way up to Pro.
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Apple Reveals New 'iMac Pro' Built for Users With Demanding Workflows, Starting at $5K
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People do not buy Mac Minis anymore as their entry into the Mac ecosystem - the MacBook Air fills that role. And iOS developers are using MacBook Pros and iMacs.
Curious to see how the heat management will work in that form factor.
The new MacPro will not be out in 2017. https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/04/apple-updates-mac-pro-and-more/
That's not how I interpreted the announcements. I'm still confident that they are working on a modular Mac Pro. They made a big point of saying that the Mac Pro was still important.
Was contemplating switching to razer or building a hackintosh for the longest time (2 years) but this offers me a glimmer of hope in that they are at least somewhat serious in rebuilding their prosumer userbase. While I like this iMac Pro, it isn't for me because it definitely isn't as upgradable as even a 2013 nMP. Apple, your Mac Pro better live up to the hype and expectations prosumers are expecting. I will buy if it does.
Not available yet, ordered already? Lie much?
Thanks for your opinion. It's just the Mac Mini isn't an entry-level product for those who purchase it anymore. It's not a shocker that it wasn't updated today.
Guess you didn't watch the keynote as they showed how the new cooling system moves significantly more air (I believe they said double) to keep the thing from melting.
To quote the Donald: "You're wrong."
Same here, who wants to either trash a $2k monitor or a $3k mac because one 'half' of it goes wrong. You see plenty of iMacs for sale 'spares or repair'.
Quadra 900, Quadra 950, 8100, beige G3, B&W G3, various G4s, G5, intel minis, cheesegraters, various PowerBooks... no dustbins, no iMacs, no minis with soldered on RAM.
Yeah, that all in one design will never catch on. It's just a fad.
No touch bar keyboards?
Looks like a beast... A non upgradable beast
Looks like a beast... A non upgradable beast
AMD scored a massive win here and finally Metal 2 makes full use of GPU power. I expect a lot of Windows users will be won over and AMD stock holders are going to double their investment by next year.
I, like many others, really want this. I love the appearance and power. I don't need the Xeon processor, or ECC memory though. The other aspects are really appealing, other than the price.
Everyone needs ECC memory, I think. One of the greatest failures in modern computing is companies pushing the idea that we don't need ECC memory.
Memory corruption can irreversibly destroy data at any time. ECC memory isn't much more expensive than non-ECC (difference is about 10%). It's absurd that we're trading data security for 10% cost savings in one of the cheaper components in the system.
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I'm actually really happy Apple is sticking with AMD. macOS drivers for AMD GPUs have always been FAR better than Nvidia.
People don't buy minis because Apple decided to solder in the RAM and not upgrade it since 2014. They have said they are 'working' on a replacement, it's just surprising that they think a suped-up iMac is more worthwhile than an entry-level, upgradable mini.
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iMacs make sense for a lot of people, just not for me. I like to be able to stretch out the use of my machines - I've got 10 year old minis doing various things right now (that an iMac would not be practical for).
It's heartening to see Apple putting this year's GPU in this year's iMac. How does it compare with Nvidia performance? And could it lead to a Mac version of Oculist Rift?
It's configurable to 128gb of ram, 18 cores, and a 16gb video ram card and people still say "it isn't pro enough".
I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed.
I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed.
Is this the pro machine we were promised with expandability? At least they have put the MacPro trash can to use with it's recycled HomePod. Makes me sad that that they didn't even reference the MacPro. it's a super configurable options. But I'll hold off giving apple another £7k.
Also whilst it's impressive with it'd GPU still Adobe will not support AMD graphics cards so what's the point in putting those in it...
Also whilst it's impressive with it'd GPU still Adobe will not support AMD graphics cards so what's the point in putting those in it...
I don't understand Intel's thinking re ECC. I don't really think the Xeons are the right chips for a lot of non-server, single user applications even if you have multi-threaded apps -- except for the ECC support. To me, depending on non-ECC memory for income critical pro work is a bit like depending on those good 'ol Shuttle O-rings -- hey, they haven't failed yet ... oh wait...
I think it's beautiful, but it's a lot of money for such limited upgradeability. And if you're adding external stuff, might as well buy a Mac Pro (if the next one is any good). But it does look nice.
Stupid comment - it's an 'All in One', not even PC makers make upgradeable 'All in Ones' - and the iMac has NEVER been upgradeable (apart from Ram).
The Mac Pro next year is set to the modular machine for those that really want to tinker.