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I wish there were an iMac Pro(sumer). Something with a Ryzen 7, a slightly lower end graphics card and non ECC RAM. That should shave a few grand off the price and be almost as fast. I can live with the loss of a zero or a one every now and again. Or whatever else that super RAM saves "true pros" from.

Dell's new Inspiron 27 7000 AIO is $1500 for an 8-core Ryzen 7 1700 processor and 8GB Radeon RX 580 GPU with 4K display so that gives us somewhat of a baseline. I am assuming that is with a 1TB 7200RPM HDD, however.


18 cores fixed screen like imac. Innovative...

Dell's Precision AIOs only offer 4-core E3 Xeons which are i7's with ECC RAM support. To be fair, that is what most of us (myself included) expected the iMac Pro to offer, but we clearly were not thinking innovative enough. :)
 
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This looks great but huge amount of $$ as well...Probably those using all the power of such a machine will be able to afford it... :)
 
Well, I really hope this is just a stop-gap machine, or a sign that Apple feels confident they are selling enough computers that they can add new models to their line-up. I will absolutely never buy a "pro" computer that requires me to throw away the screen every time I get a new one and basically can't be upgraded.

I'm very much hoping next year we see a Mac Pro tower and a miniMac replacement line, perhaps just called the Mac, but more and more it looks like the miniMac is dead. This is really too bad since they made great little servers and media boxes. Apple I'm sure doesn't want to cannibalize their Apple TV sales in the latter category, but as long as Apple is making macOS Server, they need to have some kind of box for it, don't they? Please?
 
Sorry, but this is a waste of money. Let's say you get the bangin' 18 core model, most software can't take advantage of it during normal use. For ex. Cinema 4D can only utilize one core out of 18 during the creative process. Of course it'll use all 18 cores at render time but what's the point? That's what a render machine is for.

Only being able to use one of 18 cores greatly reduces the capability of how many objects you can work with in a scene. SO you're better off using a 4 Core machine to work and a multi core machine of 12+ to render.

The other lame factor of this thing is Radeon. They make good cards and they'll even be great when more simulations can handle OpenCL but Nvidia has CUDA which can scream through complicated simulations with ease.

Why can't there be choose in this matter? It's a pro machine right?

Lame, Lame, Lame, Lame.

Apple doesn't listen to it's pro users and never will.
 
Think about how many iPhones Apple sells. Think about how many of those iPhones cost close to $1000 after taxes. Think of all the people filming in 4K video on those iPhones only to find they can't do much in the way of editing those chunky videos on older iMacs or Windows machines. I think Apple will manage to find plenty of customers who won't even bat an eyelash at $5000 base price for a hot looking Apple desktop.

One of them might be me. I don't know yet. If there's not a lot of space in my home office once it's all finished then an all-in-one solution might be what I am looking for. I am not a pro user but $5000 for a powerful desktop that can handle VR and video editing and anything else my family throws at it for 3 years or more might be a nice purchase.

I would certainly consider all of my options. And my office isn't finished yet so I am in no rush. I'll wait and see what kind of gremlins plague this machine and how/if Apple stands behind any problems that arise.

Hell, even when we were poor newlyweds, we didn't skimp on our desktops and back then well appointed computers cost $2000 or more and were utter crap by comparison.
 
This thing is really awesome. Pretty sure I shouldn't have to take a car loan out to buy a desktop though.
 
Apple has introduced a faster iMac that actually meets my needs and it's $1,000 more than I paid for this one and that's their base model. It's ridiculous. I don't make money with my work on these machines but I love this kind of thing.

I find it hard to believe they couldn't make this machine for less than 5 grand.

With all due respect, start making money off of it. Then you can justify the expense of the best tools. (Caveat, I work in video for a living, but haven't freelanced in a long time. I can't justify this computer either, but man, I'd love to).
 
No, this is a pro machine.

You can get a cheaper 27" 5K iMac starting at $1,799. $5k isn't altogether unreasonable to a workstation with Xeon core and ECC Ram.

Just because it's fast, doesn't make it pro. I pity anyone wasting that much money on a locked down computer with such terrible airflow.

Apple's only further proving to be a joke of a company for professionals.
 
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This isn't a regular workstation, this is an extremely high end workstation.

Workstations for average work costs less than $1,000. Hell more on the $500-$700 price range.

Think about the costs of replacing a whole office with these. 10 of them will be $50,000 dollars, this is definitely more for an independent professional. Which is ridiculous considering the current line of mac mini and iMacs (without spec upgrades) Hardly can last more then couple years with its already out of date hardware (the hardware was out of date even the day of release for these computers)


The 1st Gen (USB-C) MacBook was so underpowered its just ridiculous, along with so many of their other products. If they just stuck with the industry standard of up to date hardware imagine how much more sales they'd make.

the 13" is still has a dual core processor. Its just ridiculous.
 
will there be an upgrade option to matte black or jet black?

Not in 2017.

Maybe in 2018.
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Just because it's fast, doesn't make it pro. I pity anyone wasting that much money on a locked down computer with such terrible airflow.

Apple's only further proving to be a joke of a company for professionals.

I'm a professional and my iMacs (since 2007) have been the best PCs I have owned.

I'm also not vain enough to believe that just because they work for me, they'll work for every other professional (unlike so many who seem to believe that if the iMac doesn't work for them, it also works for nobody).
 
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Very pretty. I'm sure various companies will eat these up. Personally I can never imagine breaking away from a laptop though.
 
I'm surprised people will spend this much money on pro specs that aren't user serviceable or upgradeable. If I'm doing 3D work, that Radeon Vega is fine now, but in 3 years I'm going to want a rendering upgrade. I'm not going to spend $10,000 for an all new iMac Pro to get that upgrade.
 
I use mine as a headless media server as well as a movie player connected to my projector. I have no need for the built in display of the iMac. The Mac mini is perfect for this. Too bad it croaks playing 4k HEVC videos. My Sony uhd player that cost $273 can play the HEVC 4k HDR flawlessly. I am now using the Mac mini for just serving.


So it's perfect for something it can't do... something you apparently need it to do.

Makes sense.

Sounds like you need a Mac Pro to be your media server.
 
I may forgo a MBP for an iMac this time around as my current mid 2010 MBP never leaves my desk.

That pretty 27 inch screen is sweet and I may go mouseless (that trackpad is likely all I need).

Also if they can confirm that the memory is still user upgradable in the 27" iMac that would help.

That iMac pro looks great, but its not for me (unless I win the lottery).
 
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