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I'm saying the exact opposite - that the old fully-upgradable 4-core Mac Minis were poor sellers, as well, which is why Apple stopped offering 4-core configurations and limited upgradeability to reduce production costs to keep the line revenue positive.

No, Apple dropped the 4-core configuration because they had to choose one or the other. Intel used a different pinout for their 2-core and 4-core mobile CPUs.

I think that Kaby Lake, supporting both configurations will be trivial again, so I would expect that the next rev of the Mini (if it ever happens) will have a four-core version.
 
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I am disappointed there was no Keyboard Pro or Mac Mini Pro or iPhone Pro announced...

The Mac Mini is probably going away.

And iPhones are announced in the Fall.
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No, Apple dropped the 4-core configuration because they had to choose one or the other. Intel used a different pinout for their 2-core and 4-core mobile CPUs.

Well then they could have just gone all 4-core if that was the majority of sales, so I am guessing 4-core sales were much less than 2-core.
 
I think this pretty much confirms that the cylinder Mac Pro was dead in the water and this 'iMac Pro' was its replacement.

That is, until Apple finally acknowledged the mass exodus by 'pro' users who needed to configure workstations to suit their needs and not adjust their needs to fit Apple's increasingly locked down ecosystem.

Let's hope Apple truly is listening to feedback from customers who need real workstations as they work on the 'Modular Mac Pro'.
 
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And yet the same tired bezel design from yesteryear. Courageous!​
I kind of agree, I love this design but this would have been a great opportunity to bring in a new design.

It's been the same chassis since 2012 and the bezel design is 10 years old exactly at this point.

...but i do still like it. Would be a little concerned that Apple release a complete redesign not long after this ships to be honest
 
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Apple have already announced that they are working on an all new fully modular Mac Pro.

I hope so. But they have never wanted to overlap the tiers of their products by doing a headless iMac. Would they offer a headless Xeon MacPro?

They should. Sometimes power users need a machine that is relatively headless – or needs only a monitor for basic control for something driving many other displays. Forcing users to include a 5K monitor when all they need is a console monitor seems a bit much.
 
I wish there were an iMac Pro(sumer). Something with a Ryzen 7, a slightly lower end graphics card and non ECC RAM. That should shave a few grand off the price and be almost as fast. I can live with the loss of a zero or a one every now and again. Or whatever else that super RAM saves "true pros" from.
 
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The Mac Mini is probably going away.

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I hope not. The mini fills a small niche ( just like the AppleTv which is not selling in droves either) , but nothing replaces it. A sub-1000$ first Mac, or a server. It was also very popular in the pro audio community for a while due to it's amount of various i/o connectors, super silent operation, internal hd upgradability, decent processor power ( graphics have little use for audio & mudicians). All in a tiny inexpensive package.
 
Hope I can get that trackpad, keyboard, and mouse...without having to buy the whole thing, only time will tell...
 
You can buy a wonderful new $5000 desktop, try beta software, get the latest processors, wait for a new exciting home speaker with Siri...

... AND
you can buy a three year old Mini, Mac Pro, or an aging MacBook Air with an "old school" display. If you want "new", you can buy a new laptop with a puny 128gb drive. Only Apple gives us so much to choose from!

My Mac mini is going back today. I have a new 4k display, Apple wireless keyboard and mouse. I don't need an iMac, so my only choice is NUC.
 
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I suspect that this is that Mac. I doubt Apple would release two separate types of Mac Pros. I wouldn't be surprised if little to nothing in the iMac Pro is upgradable. IMO, that's the real difference between a consumer computer and a "pro" computer: how upgradable it is. I've been able to continue building out my 2013 Mac Pro to keep it up to speed. I'm not that excited about the iMac Pro, but I'll reserve final judgment until I see the specs.
They already said they were going to. They said an iMac pro coming this year and a Mac Pro coming next year.
 
RAID arrays...

RAIDs.

Redundant Array of Independant (Inexpensive alt) Disks.

The now all-too-common "RAID arrays" (included in the keynote even) is problematic unless you mean arrays of arrays which, while possible, is rarely the case.

Why not just "external disk arrays"? Many I know are using RAID level 0 which is only AIDs for your data.
 
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