You're confusing the term Workstation with Desktop.
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Apple Reveals New 'iMac Pro' Built for Users With Demanding Workflows, Starting at $5K
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You're confusing the term Workstation with Desktop.
For a single-person or small (say 10 or less units) shop, this is a logical and reasonable stance to have.
For places that have scores or hundreds of units, however, they generate enough cash over the "three year lifespan" to justify replacement if they need the additional performance those models offer.
For those complaining about the price of the iMac Pro, consider this:
The 2013 Mac Pro is $4000 right now for worse specs than what the iMac Pro has. And that Mac Pro cost even more when it was new in 2014. Add at least $1000 for the 5K display and you're looking at a reasonable price for a powerhouse. A shame it won't be available until December.
The 2013 Mac Pro is $4000 right now for worse specs than what the iMac Pro has. And that Mac Pro cost even more when it was new in 2014. Add at least $1000 for the 5K display and you're looking at a reasonable price for a powerhouse. A shame it won't be available until December.
That was your estimate, no one else's. Are you now saying your estmate is wrong?
Probably too soon to expect a new Mac Pro given Apple's previous statements about the trash can's limits. I'm not expecting anything new, design-wise, with Mac Pro until next year. Probably WWDC 2018.
don't think this is the new mac pro -- isn't that due to be released in 2018 or 2019?
It isn't. But god forbid anyone actually bother to read what Apple said only last month.
Bad comparison, the Mac Pro didn't have a state of the art 5k display included.
Surely if you're making good money in your business then the tools should pay for themselves. I'm certainly not suggesting that you need an iMac Pro as I haven't a clue what you do, but if you need all that power and you can justify the purchase based on your income then is there a problem?
It looks like the larger keyboard is available on albeit not black on regular iMacs.
Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
Whether you’re working or gaming, the new Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad makes everything as easy as 1-2-3.
A bargain at £129.99 / $129.99.
They'll be a stampede once Mac owners realise these are in stock at the stores.
I agree with the general sentiment, but arrays of arrays aren't that uncommon, that's basically whatRAID 10 and RAID 50 is.
Now we are talking, Apple!
Funny how people that need the modular Mac Pro are dissing this iMac Pro because it's not expandable. Of course, it's not for you. The real problem is that you guys need to wait out until probably third quarter 2018, while freelancers and developers that need this kind of power, but don't need expandability, will be able to get it 6 months from today. Just in time for the next VR and AR push that iPhone 8 (or whatever it'll be called) will produce.
This iMac sounds like it can take Renderman's realtime renderer smoothly in Maya's viewports. Or any of AutoCAD's many visualization styles for large projects without hiccups. Even the Unreal Engine crowd will be pleased by this all-in-one beauty. At least I know it's tempting me...
Funny how people that need the modular Mac Pro are dissing this iMac Pro because it's not expandable. Of course, it's not for you. The real problem is that you guys need to wait out until probably third quarter 2018, while freelancers and developers that need this kind of power, but don't need expandability, will be able to get it 6 months from today. Just in time for the next VR and AR push that iPhone 8 (or whatever it'll be called) will produce.
This iMac sounds like it can take Renderman's realtime renderer smoothly in Maya's viewports. Or any of AutoCAD's many visualization styles for large projects without hiccups. Even the Unreal Engine crowd will be pleased by this all-in-one beauty. At least I know it's tempting me...
Apple will really need to support both Nvidia and AMD external GPU's to make a success of Pro desktops like this iMac, lots of people prefer Nvidia and CUDA support. But I have seen them boost performance drastically, an EGPU won't ever perform as much as when the cards plugged into the board, from what I've seen so far.
I expect the Mac Pro will be the model with multi-vendor GPU support.
I expect so too, but I am referring to EGPU support which they stated they were working in during the keynote. That way people who want Nvidia will be able to get it with an iMac Pro.
Despite having ditched all my Apple gear in the past 12 months and gone back to PC, I think the iMac Pro is a very good product.
I've always been against all in ones and have always preferred a modular machine, partly because I can get better performance out of a modular machine but mainly because I don't want to have to purchase what I will need in 3-4 years today, I prefer to add to it as I go along - which is what most 'workstation' buyers want rather than all-out performance. However I think this product is of high enough performance to question this approach. So long as the RAM is expandable after purchase and the SSD options aren't too expensive I think most people could find a CPU spec that will be good enough for the duration of the machine and add storage externally. This isn't a machine for hard-core gamers, and probably never will be, but for the entry level workstation market, it looks great and the GPU options should be enough for this. HP Z and the like will still take the performance crown because they are simply more expandable, have dual CPU sockets, etc, but we are talking about different categories of product here anyway, the two don't compare and this is where the modular Mac Pro will come in.
I don't think I'm quite an all in one covert quite yet, I'd like to see reviews (especially around noise and thermals) and see what the next Mac Pro is like too. I get many will still prefer a modular machine whether or not they actually need a workstation, I'm not questioning that - if that's what you need, that's what you need. Overall I think Apple have done a good job here at filling the gap until the next Mac Pro comes out, and I'm normally very quick to criticise them. Nice one Apple - now do the same for the MacBook Pro, go build a model that is a step above what you have now please.
I've always been against all in ones and have always preferred a modular machine, partly because I can get better performance out of a modular machine but mainly because I don't want to have to purchase what I will need in 3-4 years today, I prefer to add to it as I go along - which is what most 'workstation' buyers want rather than all-out performance. However I think this product is of high enough performance to question this approach. So long as the RAM is expandable after purchase and the SSD options aren't too expensive I think most people could find a CPU spec that will be good enough for the duration of the machine and add storage externally. This isn't a machine for hard-core gamers, and probably never will be, but for the entry level workstation market, it looks great and the GPU options should be enough for this. HP Z and the like will still take the performance crown because they are simply more expandable, have dual CPU sockets, etc, but we are talking about different categories of product here anyway, the two don't compare and this is where the modular Mac Pro will come in.
I don't think I'm quite an all in one covert quite yet, I'd like to see reviews (especially around noise and thermals) and see what the next Mac Pro is like too. I get many will still prefer a modular machine whether or not they actually need a workstation, I'm not questioning that - if that's what you need, that's what you need. Overall I think Apple have done a good job here at filling the gap until the next Mac Pro comes out, and I'm normally very quick to criticise them. Nice one Apple - now do the same for the MacBook Pro, go build a model that is a step above what you have now please.
Reading...It's fundamental.
Saying it's not pushing a million is not the same as saying it is selling 50,000 or even 3,000. It is implying that the figure is up in that region (even if it is half that).
Understanding is fundamental.
Then try understanding that Apple doesn't have good reason to update the mini at this time... else, they would update the stupid thing.
Get on with your life already.
Interesting but I am looking forward only to the new Mac Pros...I love these specs and imac dark look but I really want to be able to add my own graphic card or be able to upgrade an M2 or SSD myself