Apple Revises iTunes Terms and Conditions to Allow Educational iTunes Accounts for Children Under 13

[alent1234]

This is basically like 'Kids Mode' on the Nexus 7..

I have to laugh that apple is *only* now finally impleteung this into their products...

All i have to say is.... "What took ya ??"

A welcome, never the less... Not only popular for kids either

And nexus copied amazon who copied Microsoft

 

[charlituna]

This is great news! Working at a high school we have way to many kids having to use their parents Apple ID's. Looking forward to iOS 7 MDM too

You already shouldn't since high school kids are at least 13 (other than the random Howser)

 

[Chupa Chupa]

$4.5B is a drop in the bucket for our national budget, why not buy ipads for 15M Ameican school children? Spread out over three years of use that's only $1.5B a year.

As the erroneously attributed quote not made by Senator Dirken goes: a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon it adds up to real money.

iPad do not make better students. Better teachers make better students. Start there. Technology has been in U.S. classrooms for decades. When I was a grad student I was involved in a program in a DC high school that had the highest % of underprivileged kids in the metro area. The school had an amazing array of computers and even a mini TV studio. It still had more drop outs than graduates; more failing students than ones that were even eligible to get into the lowest ranked junior college. Most of the teachers gave up and were mostly baby sitters.

My point: if you want to understand the public education problems in the country, tech is not a quick fix nor is spending money. The issues are much deeper, and, unfortunately, very political, in just about every sense of the word. Understand the DC, for example, which has one of the worse school systems in the country -- the president, congressmen and women, and senators won't send their kids there -- spends $18K per student. The national average is around $10K per student.

 

[filmantopia]

Anybody read the fine print in the T&C about the human cent-iPad?

 

[charlituna]

tech is not a quick fix nor is spending money.

Well hell, lets go back to the one room schoolhouse and the slate and chalk. It was good enough then it should be good enough now.

No one has said iPads etc are a quick fix. But dirty crapped up textbooks etc aren't working either. Perhaps we should end all teachers unions and standardized tests since those seem to be problems also.

Given the quality of some schools and teachers kids might be better off being taught by iPad. Sorry if that offends since I'm talking about your people but it is true. Not all teachers are worth the title. But we sure wouldn't want to get rid of them now would we

 

[NotAdvisable]

You already shouldn't since high school kids are at least 13 (other than the random Howser)

We have quite a few issues with Year 7's that would be 12 at the start of the program, only turning 13 later in the year

 

[b-dogg]

iOS 7 and education.

Indeed.

I can't wait to have to educate my entire family how to use their new "brilliantly" designed iOS7 software on their previously perfectly usable iPad's iPhones.

I am dreading this.

I predict that there will massive blowback after this releases. Give it 2 weeks before all the old silver surfers are throwing their iPads around in frustration.

"WHERE'D THE BUTTONS GO???"

"But look, the clock hand moves now!"

 

[otismotive77]

hmmm... cool! now my daughter wont have to use my ID, thank god.

 

[blitzer09x87]

i dont think that kids under 13 should really have a phone, but the kids these days, it's okay if they have an inexpensive feature phone, but all they want is a smartphone, what would a 13 year old use a smartphone for. this is so wrong

 

[Pyrrhic Victory]

As the erroneously attributed quote not made by Senator Dirken goes: a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon it adds up to real money.

iPad do not make better students. Better teachers make better students. Start there. Technology has been in U.S. classrooms for decades. When I was a grad student I was involved in a program in a DC high school that had the highest % of underprivileged kids in the metro area. The school had an amazing array of computers and even a mini TV studio. It still had more drop outs than graduates; more failing students than ones that were even eligible to get into the lowest ranked junior college. Most of the teachers gave up and were mostly baby sitters.

My point: if you want to understand the public education problems in the country, tech is not a quick fix nor is spending money. The issues are much deeper, and, unfortunately, very political, in just about every sense of the word. Understand the DC, for example, which has one of the worse school systems in the country -- the president, congressmen and women, and senators won't send their kids there -- spends $18K per student. The national average is around $10K per student.

Okay, I am not suggesting that ipads are going to transform bad schools. Just give ipads to the schools that are already doing well and have good students, I don't think you would disagree that ipads would improve their learning experience even more since they will be used appropriately to enhance an already successful curriculum. I agree that it's a bad idea to waste them on schools that will fail regardless.

 

[SILen(e]

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I can't wait to have to educate my entire family how to use their new "brilliantly" designed iOS7 software on their previously perfectly usable iPad's iPhones.

I am dreading this.

I predict that there will massive blowback after this releases. Give it 2 weeks before all the old silver surfers are throwing their iPads around in frustration.

"WHERE'D THE BUTTONS GO???"

"But look, the clock hand moves now!"

The buttons are in the same position as they have been forever, they just look slightly different.

i dont think that kids under 13 should really have a phone, but the kids these days, it's okay if they have an inexpensive feature phone, but all they want is a smartphone, what would a 13 year old use a smartphone for. this is so wrong

"Find my Friends", iMessage and even the iPhone 4 is a really good camera.

 

[Asifasim22]

That's roughly 3000 an ipad. that's an ridiculous amount per unit even it's a 128 gb with preloaded apps

 

[tooloud10]

iPad do not make better students. Better teachers make better students. Start there. Technology has been in U.S. classrooms for decades. When I was a grad student I was involved in a program in a DC high school that had the highest % of underprivileged kids in the metro area. The school had an amazing array of computers and even a mini TV studio. It still had more drop outs than graduates; more failing students than ones that were even eligible to get into the lowest ranked junior college. Most of the teachers gave up and were mostly baby sitters.

Most (all?) of the studies say otherwise. Looking at my kids and their classmates, I'd easily say that the kids with iPads have a clear advantage over the kids without iPads. iPads are not a cure-all, because the kids and the parents have got to want the kids to learn, but if you're a parent that wants their kid to excel and you're doing the other things right already, there are a lot worse moves you can make than to hand them an iPad.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/11...inds_students_with_apples_ipad_perform_better
http://www.padgadget.com/2012/04/11...ks-score-nearly-10-better-on-test-than-peers/

 

[wackymacky]

If a parent wants their child to have a ipod toch/ipad, I really don't see he problem with this. Why can't there be a feature for a icloud account recognized for under 13, that required the guardian to agree to the terms and conditions and be responsible for?

(Rather than creating an account and just saying that they are over the age of 13 like would happen now.)

A guardian can still control what is installed on the device and what apps are used and not have it associated with a credit card. (Unless the kid can hack the restriction screen)

 

[asthamapheo]

What about the kids that aren't at schools that are using iOS devices.

I think I like my cousins version of this idea better. Make it a sub account of the parents, who can set account level controls etc

hmmm...awesome! dude, you should have written this to apple. this idea is way better. the "parental control" thing is just awesome.

 

[SILen(e]

If a parent wants their child to have a ipod toch/ipad, I really don't see he problem with this. Why can't there be a feature for a icloud account recognized for under 13, that required the guardian to agree to the terms and conditions and be responsible for?

That is what this is all about.

"verifiable parental consent for personal Apple IDs for students under age 13."

 

[jonnysods]

Yeah, those kids could grow up thinking it's actually ok to pay for software. Pretty disgusting, Apple!

So Apple are just trying to help educate children to not pirate software? So kind of them. I thought they were in it for the money but you have proven otherwise.

 

[Vulkan]

I can see it now. Children will be exploited because apple mishandled their personal data...

Catholics have been doing that for years...

 

[infinitech]

This is so that a person who is not 13 can be introduced to the Apple ecosystem the "adults" don't realize they're in. The same will go for google, microsoft, etc.

This is what any company run by someone who wanted to build the best products would ask for.

 

[Aidyn's X]

I mean this makes sense. I teach at a high school so this doesn't apply but it seems that a lot of the education apps are geared toward that younger group so iPads in an elementary or middle school would make sense now too.

 

[gnasher729]

That's roughly 3000 an ipad. that's an ridiculous amount per unit even it's a 128 gb with preloaded apps

I suppose you are talking about a "potential $4.5 billion deal for iPads for 15 million children". In that case, maybe having an iPad at school would have helped you getting better at maths.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Most (all?) of the studies say otherwise. Looking at my kids and their classmates, I'd easily say that the kids with iPads have a clear advantage over the kids without iPads.

Right but what other factors could mask that effect -- make it look like the iPad is helping the kids when its likely a lot of other outside influences that contribute? What other advantages do the kids with iPads have that the ones who don't have iPads don't have.

And regardless, again, it's good teaching and curriculum that kids need first. iPads and other tech are only aids. We need to get the first part fixed before spending more on the second. iPads are not a quick fix anymore than laptops were before that or computers before that or calculators before that.

 

[DominikHoffmann]

I wonder, how homeschooling parents might be accommodated under this policy.

 

[Tech198]

Please do explain why this is "basically like Kids Mode on the Nexus 7".

Basically, as in you can restricted people to the app only.

 

[SILen(e]

Basically, as in you can restricted people to the app only.

Available since iOS6, with the ability to restrict access to certain apps since iOS4.

You have no idea what THIS news is about and probably never read the article, right?