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Apple Risking iOS 7 Delays With Jony Ive's Design Overhaul

Patience for good thing to happen

Good if I've delays iPhone release due to perfection...if it is frequent even better. Because Steve would obviously push but eventually wait for the right moment. I feel Apple engineers deserves more time to think and implement the best...if that means waiting for us, so be it. Good for the industry instead of worrying about meaningless stock price and Wall Street expectations....
 
buddybd said:
I hope not, if they delay this then people will simply chalk it off to another fault of Apple without SJ. They need to deliver this on time to show that they are not crippled without him.
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I agree 100%. If they can't get it done on time then that's Apple's fault in not planning better. They have for 6 years now introduced a new version on time without delays, they have abundant resources available to get this done.
 
johndallas999 said:
I agree 100%. If they can't get it done on time then that's Apple's fault in not planning better. They have for 6 years now introduced a new version on time without delays, they have abundant resources available to get this done.
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I wouldn't call having to transfer engineers from OSX to IOS "abundant resources".
 
vjpulp said:
...what are these people doing the whole day long?
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The benefit, and cost of having a corporation that believe sin research and funds and encourages innovation is that sometimes you spend a lot of time going down a direction that doesn't add anything meaningful and is dropped.

PLUS try to improve on something that is probably millions of lines of code in a year. You'd have to have two or more teams working on the code, one to get the next revision out, and one to continue the development in the same, or different direction. Managing programmers can be an exercise in herding cats... Plus when ever you have 'teams' working on development, you get issues when it comes to integrating that effort into a single product codebase. Those who haven't, think that programmers and their companies just sit around bitching about desk space in a building that won't be finished in the next 10 years...
 
I believe many more features will be in IOS8, IOS7 will mostly be visual updates. New features tend to take a very long time to get done right.
 
Hobson's Choice...

The goal would be to get a great piece of software prepared by the expected launch date.

But the choice seems to be either releasing an unfinished version by the expected launch date, or delaying the launch until the software is ready for prime time.

If Apple chooses the latter, they will immediately lose a huge amount of business to the competition. If the choose the former, they might lose a lot more in the long run.

It will be very interesting to see which path they will choose. Either way, somebody or more likely, a bunch of somebodies has screwed up big time, either by poor planning or poor execution of an otherwise good plan.
 
Damn, september... oh well, sept will be here before you know it. Rather have it done right than done now.

Really hoping it's more than just a cosmetic update though.


...but I can't see anyone outside the rabid loonies here abandoning the entire platform because a software update they didn't know anything about was delayed from a rough timeframe they didn't know about in the first place. ...and if they're so rabid, I don't see them jumping ship in droves either.
 
firewood said:
Jobs liked warping people's minds. Ive is a product guy, not a front man. Let Cook spend his time preparing for keynotes and investor calls, so that Ive can spend his time designing product. That's the winning plan.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but if that were true... why is Sir Jony front man to the product videos?
 
ElTorro said:
Exactly. If it's Apple doing it, it's golden, if others, it's crap. At least on this board. Ive doesn't have to research much on this front, Samsung has it all implemented already.
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I won't be surprised if it suddenly becomes a great feature if Apple does it. I recall all the comments in the Galaxy S4 thread when gestures was announced.


adildacoolset said:
I'm an iPhone user, and is absolutely gimmicky, unless apple know how to do it right.
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Could you explain how it is gimmicky? And what would be the right way to do it?
 
I'm excited for a redesign. To be honest I have been admiring the S4 but I don't want to have to fight with a device to integrate into my apple dependent world. I hope Mr. Ive makes me forget the S4 even exists.
 
bbplayer5 said:
Then put it on a 5 inch screen. After having this HTC One for 2 weeks, I honestly will never go back to a 4 inch screen.
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The screen on the One is exceptionally good. 1080p is amazing on a cellphone - most laptops don't even have that kind of resolution.

How do you like it otherwise? It has gotten great reviews.

Personally, I wouldn't get a phone that was missing an SD card. I like to have huge amounts of music (like entire discographies in .flac) on my phone, and the internal storage is usually both too small and too expensive. A 32 gig SD card costs like $20, and if you really want to, you can carry around several of them. My S3 has only 16 gigs built in, but with a 32 gig card, I have a total of 48, which is enough if I use it judiciously.
 
spazzcat said:
No, windows 8 is flat and square. iOS can be flat without being square.
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Yep, it will be flat with rounded corners. ;-) As somebody already mentioned here, the WWDC logo might be a hint (saturated colors, gradients, unusual transparency modes? Who knows...).
 
I love that this article has nothing to do with android but it's still trashed even thou it's about ios heading in the direction android went over a year ago and adding in features android has had for several years.
 
You can't release a new OS without a new phone. They don't want to release the new phone until the Fall... so, hence, the "delay". It's leaked so that people won't be expecting it and wondering and bothering Apple about it in the press.
 
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