If Apple makes an iPad Pro 11” with OLED that will be an instant purchase for me!
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Apple Rumored to Adopt OLED Displays in 'Some' iPad Models Starting Next Year
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A redesigned iPad mini with an OLED display and the Air's TouchID would be a no brainer, me thinks.
I currently use the 2018 11” iPad Pro. i was going to upgrade this year, but when the 2021 11” iPad Pro didn’t get the mini LED screen I didn’t. Now I am glad I didn’t buy. Will wait for the OLED now.
I have never seen a better display than an OLED.... Honestly, people here bashing the OLED obviously don't have a large flatscreen TV in oled.. My LG doesn't have HDR, but the picture at 1080p is simply mind-blowing.... Maybe micro-led will be the future, but I think OLED will come before on these sort of devices.. old CRT had burn-in issues also, which most users didn't have.. Burn-in or burnout can honestly happen on any display..
Phones spent a lot less time with attic elements. I think and has a lot less UI elements. For example Drawing apps on the iPad have elements open non stop.
TVs have real issues with it when people only watch the same channel - but they have methods to move the logos around a few pixels or dimming that area - you wouldn't notice but it happens - but it only work on one or two screen elements.
It certainly happens with iPhones - You can see it often in Mobile phone shops - or repair centres!
Shhh, shame on you sir!
Coming here with your facts and logic - just to counteract someone’s emotional outburst.
What a barbaric move🧐
Apple have invested a lot of R&D into Mini-LED, hundreds of engineers have worked on this exclusively.
Scrapping the tech would signal bad optics, and it is a step up from traditional LED, but consider it transitionary.
It is weird because an iPad is mostly a consumption device, so OLED would have been superior for watching content. I guess Apple think* people use their iPad outside more than they do sitting in bed at night. I find that difficult to believe personally.
That's because Apple uses low frequency PWM instead of DC dimming.
DC dimming on OLED has a few disadvantages like slight color shifts, while PWM gives some people headaches and generally adds a lot of strain to your eyes.
For a phone it's not a big problem for most people as they don't stare on that for a whole day.
But: LG also adds 240Hz PWM to some of their new monitors... and they're not even OLED but regular LCD.
Apparently the amount of people who are affected by this are less than the cost savings for using this garbage. Luckily, MacBooks use high frequency PWM which has no known side effects to humans.
That is wild. Would not this be all over the web, this site including, if it was so bad?
What Apple realizes, and correctly for me personally, is that many iPad Pro users are using the device as their daily driver as a laptop alternative. And because that means on-screen elements that can be unchanging for significant periods of time, that OLED is just not a great solution. It totally makes sense for the rumors of new OLED iPads coming to market, but they’re not talking about the Pro models - the Air and base iPads are primary consumption devices and improving the screen’s contrast, blacks, resolution, etc, makes sense in those devices.
If you think about how Apple is designing and planning years in advance, it’s easy to see how the path towards micro-LED will play out, because it’s going to be exactly how things are going with mini-LED.
I have never experienced any burn in on my iPhone Pro or any of my OLED TVs. Not once. Not ever.
it's also incredibly worth waiting to see what happens with iPadOS. i'm quite hopeful for iPadOS 15 announcing in 6 days with major improvements, but right now 14 isn't taking proper advantage of the M1 in the 2021 models. Benchmarks are showing 50% improvements but practical app tests such as video rendering etc. are showing little to NO improvement over the 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro models. That obviously is a software issue and without correction it begs the question... what does a 11 inch 2021 iPad Pro even buy you? I expect it will be fixed and maybe even drive me to upgrade but right now the hardware is massively under utilized.
iPad lineup so awkward right now…
Air looks very gimped next to 11” M1, double RAM, etc, yet the M1 has no true reason to exist yet. 11” awkwardly still has same display, very likely to change next year. 12.9” increases by $100 with much better display but still not what everyone wants.
Air looks very gimped next to 11” M1, double RAM, etc, yet the M1 has no true reason to exist yet. 11” awkwardly still has same display, very likely to change next year. 12.9” increases by $100 with much better display but still not what everyone wants.
I agree. I am hoping that Apple announces Final Cut for the iPad Pro at WWDC. There has to be a reason why Apple added all that ram to the new iPad Pros. Apple just doesn’t do that. They are usually pretty stingy with ram. 👍🏼
It is all over the web. Is it as bad as the in the photos? Usually not. But it's simple physics, the second you turn it on OLED starts to degrade. Why do you think LG is implementing a ton of algorithms in firmware to fight burn in? Why do you think they have a counter running in the TV firmware that stores how long you stay on the same channel and after a specific amount of time without switching channels your warranty is void?
Go and measure the output of a OLED panel when it's brand new, then again after 500 hours, 1k, 2k, ...
The human eye won't notice this change, as it occurs over time. But the specs change over time. OLED having absolute black and therefore don't need to be as bright is nonsense. We've been there back then we bought tube based machines (as in CRT) for $100k back in the day for our home theaters and studios. How did that go?
Not that other technologies don't drop in brightness, but not as much and the drop is uniform.
That being said, you're still fighting the usual OLED problems with color uniformity, banding, poor shadow detail in low IRE regions, etc. that's why it's not used in professional setups. For the average Joe at home, who doesn't even have a properly calibrated display, it probably won't matter. Professional equipment is more expensive anyway.
For the home, sure, it's good enough. Too bad it's not available in immersive sizes. ~80" is tiny. I want 15' to 20' wide. If I could get that for $100k to $200k, I'd happily buy an OLED display, even if I'd have to replace it every 5 years. What remains is Barco/Christie (in all price ranges above $100k) or Sony/Samsung with their µLED walls which go for around $800k+, consume a ton of power and require dedicated cooling. So meh, even though Christie has a nice solution in the pipeline starting at around $300k. We'll see at CEDIA later in the year. The meh is just for me, I know a few people who are very happy with their µLED Sony and Samsung walls.
So again, OLED iPads for the average Joe and mini-LED for content creators working on studio/broadcast content. Then again, without a proper calibration it doesn't make much sense and I doubt Apple will provide these features. And then I doubt many people using an iPad for this will buy the necessary calibration equipment and yes, that is not the consumer stuff that measures all over the place, but professional equipment that actually works and starts at around $7k depending on light source and display type and goes up to $100k+ depending on the requirements.
This is an iPad (a toy) after all.
Those curious about burn-in should look at this article from Rtings. After some 9000 hours, you can see the results based on different content being displayed. Also of note that the C7 is more than a few years old at this point. LG is on the CX / BX now.
www.rtings.com
Real-Life OLED Burn-In Test On 6 TVs
There are concerns about OLED long-term performance due to the possibility of burn-in. We bought 6 LG OLED C7s to play real, non-altered content. It should give you a better idea of what to expect depending on what you watch on your TV.
www.rtings.com
Those curious about burn in should look at real-world examples over at https://www.avsforum.com, https://www.avforums.com and several other forums. While the Rtings test is nice, these particular patterns are at least partially embedded in firmware to prevent burn in. Others are not. As usual, there's variance among displays. Manufacturers are learning from this though and usually improve burn-in from generation to generation. It also becomes less of an issue due to new technology. When people throw aways their TVs/displays after two or three years to buy something new, it's less of a problem. Same can be said for an iPad, just upgrade every year.
