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is also the king of milking their customers as much as they legally can.
Fundamental rule of business: don't leave money on the table.

I suspect any successful business that is long sustaining is built on that principle.
 
Fundamental rule of business: don't leave money on the table.

I suspect any successful business that is long sustaining is built on that principle.
Absolutely agree, that's why I smile when I see people assuming Apple is always doing things in the best interest of their clients
 
that's a bluetooth keyboard, it works with any device that has bluetooth, that's not a keyboard made and sold for the iPad mini. Apple will not make one as they think it's too small. Similarly I don't see them giving the mini stage manager for the same reason (screen is too small). And these are 2 reasons why they won't give the mini external display support.
 
that's a bluetooth keyboard, it works with any device that has bluetooth, that's not a keyboard made and sold for the iPad mini. Apple will not make one as they think it's too small. Similarly I don't see them giving the mini stage manager for the same reason (screen is too small). And these are 2 reasons why they won't give the mini external display support.
I don’t think people want to use the iPad mini as a dual screen. They primarily want to use the full area of an external display, a feature which for whatever reason is currently limited to the M1. That’s a use case that would make perfect sense, and is unrelated to the screen size. Quite on the contrary, people want this because the iPad mini is so small, making it take up less space on a desk, be more portable, and more convenient to plug it on and off.
 
If it were that simple, we'd have an M2 iMac.



This isn't true at all. Lots of Intel Macs sat on older CPUs for a while.



Er. The OS upgrade is free.

Their upgrade cycle has nothing to do with economics and everything to do with engineering and marketing convenience: it lets them announce a roadmap for the next 12 months for both developers and users, and it lets them internally keep all platforms in sync.



But… it doesn't? If they don't make a release, the old Mac doesn't get an upgrade. And if they do make one and it obsoletes the old Mac, it… doesn't get an upgrade.

Having said all that, you're still right: they're not delaying iPads because of tight consumer budgets or anything.

1st is a good point but Apple, is prioritizing their Macbooks and standalones (Apple Studio and mini) over this all-in-one design, while leaving iMac as just an afterthought (we still haven't 27" iMac). If that's going on it isn't because Apple doesn't wanna profit from iMac sales but because it has a low demand? Or maybe because they realised standalones give more margin and wanna promote that way. Mac Mini and Studio provide indirect sales as a form of keyboards, mouses, trackpads and displays (Studio Display or a Pro Display), specially for Apple Studio. The moment you release a 27" iMac with a good screen and powerful enough you are cannibalizing Apple Studio and the displays sales.

2nd point is cherrypicking as that barely happened once with the 15" in 2013 not being updated for 2 years, the rest usually had an anual update maybe except for Mac Pro.

3rd point: TSMC not releasing anual new nodes isn't economics or marketing, it's logistics.

4t point abot the OS: being free doesn't invalidate my reasoning? What's the point of releasing an anual OS when you don't have anual new Macs anyway? All the stuff included in Monterrey, Ventura and Sonoma isn't worth even a 1 big OS upgrade, it could be perfectly added in Big Sur as new features. A yearly anual OS is a pain in the ass for app devs, Apple devs, and us customers with app compatibilities and so, and the sole reason to do so is that every year you can ditch more old Macs support so users feel their computer is obsolete thus forcing new sales. As I said, Apple is about money and numbers, but at least they should be less blatant and go for a 2 year anual release like they do now with Macs.
 
2nd point is cherrypicking as that barely happened once with the 15" in 2013 not being updated for 2 years, the rest usually had an anual update maybe except for Mac Pro.

The Mac mini had updates in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2020.

The MacBook Air had updates in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020… and the 2017 MacBook Air had a 2015 CPU.

The 27-inch iMac had updates in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2019.

That's not even getting into the Mac Pro.

You're way off with your assertion that "they literally released a new Mac every time Intel had a new CPU". They sometimes took years to upgrade to an Intel CPU, and sometimes skipped multiple generations.
 
I don’t think people want to use the iPad mini as a dual screen. They primarily want to use the full area of an external display, a feature which for whatever reason is currently limited to the M1. That’s a use case that would make perfect sense, and is unrelated to the screen size. Quite on the contrary, people want this because the iPad mini is so small, making it take up less space on a desk, be more portable, and more convenient to plug it on and off.
Apple doesn't care what (some) people want, unfortunately...
 
I think new iMacs will be released instead this week according to a good source. I sure hope so as the current imacs in the Apple stores are so outdated now.
 
I think new iMacs will be released instead this week according to a good source. I sure hope so as the current imacs in the Apple stores are so outdated now.
I was OK with M2/M2 Pro iMac rumors until A17 Pro in the iPhone 15 Pro showed hardware enabled ray tracing. Now its seems better to wait for January or March introductions of first M3 SoC's or possibly when the M3 Pro shows up IMHO. :cool:

One could apply that same thought to IPadOS based game playing on the upcoming iPads, or other graphic content applications that make use of that. :)
 
I enjoy a good press release announcement. Looking forward to something being announced by Apple this week. We shall see.
 
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That doesn’t seem too realistic. We got the 13.6 m2 and the 15 m2 MacBook air this year. Apple bring out an m3 MacBook air in the same year does seem highly unlikely.

The 13” M2 Air came out last summer...so over 1.5 years ago.

M2 was released 1.5 years after M1. It seems reasonable to expect M3 to come out 1.5 years after M2, which would be this fall.
 
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But that’s exactly what happened this year too, remember?
2023 Jan: M2 / M2 Pro mini, 14” 16” MBP
2023 June: Mac Studio, Mac Pro, 15” MBA
So majority of current Macs were released within the first 6 months of 2023. (save for iMac, 13” MBAs/touchbar)

I guess I am thinking in terms of the processor roadmap rather than in terms of products released.

M2 was released in 2022, 1.5 years after M1. The M2 Pro/Max/Ultra came out in 2023. The M2 Mini got held back because the Mini was also getting the M2 Pro, so it makes sense to release the Mini with the Pro/Max chips.

I would expect M3 to come out this fall (1.5 years after M2) and then all the M3 Pro/Max/Ultras in the first half of 2024.
 
Good you at least removed the "always" from what you quoted when editing your initial post, Apple makes some great products, but is also the king of milking their customers as much as they legally can... talk about "always thinking about what's good for the customer..."
I removed always because no entity is perfect. But the point stands that serving customers well is the long term mandatory goal for any really competent firm.

Sorry but I do not consider high prices alone to make Apple into the king of milking their customers as much as they legally can. Buyers still have plenty of cheaper options that they can choose among.
 
Absolutely agree, that's why I smile when I see people assuming Apple is always doing things in the best interest of their clients
You seem to fail to grasp the critical difference between making products available that best suit customers' needs and doing things in the best interest of their clients. We all are Apple's customers, not Apple's clients.
 
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The 13” M2 Air came out last summer...so over 1.5 years ago.

M2 was released 1.5 years after M1. It seems reasonable to expect M3 to come out 1.5 years after M2, which would be this fall.

But that would lead to one of two unlikely situations: either the 13" Air is updated to M3 while the 15" is stuck on M2 until...when? Or both are updated and the 15" Air with M2 has one of the shortest lifespans of any Mac in history.
 
But that would lead to one of two unlikely situations: either the 13" Air is updated to M3 while the 15" is stuck on M2 until...when? Or both are updated and the 15" Air with M2 has one of the shortest lifespans of any Mac in history.
I remember when the iPad 3 came out in the Spring, it was replaced 6 months later by the iPad 4 in the Fall so it is possible. Rare but possible.
 
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But that would lead to one of two unlikely situations: either the 13" Air is updated to M3 while the 15" is stuck on M2 until...when? Or both are updated and the 15" Air with M2 has one of the shortest lifespans of any Mac in history.

Well I remember when Apple’s PowerBook line was getting updated every 6 months…..so a first generation 15” MacBook Air, getting a processor bump (with no other design changes) in the same year, doesn’t seem that wild to me.
 
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Will be minor updates, if any of the iPads are released. Would like to see some new colours.
 
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