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Apple Rumored to Launch 27-Inch Mini-LED Display in Q1 2023

As for someone who, due to my job, switches watching between OLED, LCD and Mini-LED displays regularly... "whoop-dee-doop". Don't feel bad if you bought last year's LCD-display.

Such small things we improve with monitors nowadays at great RnD and expense. You stop thinking about them about 20 seconds into using the monitor anyway.
 
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Two questions about the 120Hz possibility:

- Will ProMotion/120Hz on this new monitor make scrolling through text more smooth?

I love ProMotion on my iPhone. It makes scrolling while reading look so smooth and nice. I'd like the same at work, as I look at text most of the day. But I just tried it on my MBP M1Pro 16, which is set to ProMotion refresh rate, and didn't see the same smooth text effect. Is it just harder to notice on the larger screen?

- Will a current Mac Studio be able to take advantage of ProMotion/120Hz if this new monitor has it?

It seems like the Studio's video output is limited to 60Hz refresh rate.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
Me too. Mac Studio Ultra tucked in behind the 5K2K 40" Ultrawide. So the only visible brand is the Dell one at the bottom of it and an Apple logo on the mouse. People think my new "Dell" looks great. ;)

After a decade plus on 27" iMac screens, I could never come back from an ultra wide. That extra screen RE is just too useful for me.
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This Dell Ultrasharp 40 Curved looks tempting! Can I ask you?:

I assume you're running it at 5120x2160. With your Studio, how sharp is text? (Text is 90% of what I work with.)

When I put two Dell 4k 27" monitors together and angled them into a slight V, I found that reading text on the edges of the monitors was at such an extreme angle that I had to strain to read it, and I gave up on that setup. Does the curve of your Dell solve this issue?

Thanks!!
 
Damnit, Apple. I need a new monitor. I want something better than ASD but don’t want to buy a three year old XDR now.

Get to releasing already!
 
jr5x said:
This Dell Ultrasharp 40 Curved looks tempting! Can I ask you?:

I assume you're running it at 5120x2160. With your Studio, how sharp is text? (Text is 90% of what I work with.)

When I put two Dell 4k 27" monitors together and angled them into a slight V, I found that reading text on the edges of the monitors was at such an extreme angle that I had to strain to read it, and I gave up on that setup. Does the curve of your Dell solve this issue?

Thanks!!
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To my 20:20 eyes, I can't really tell a difference between the former iMac screen quality and this Dell. However, I generally do text-intensive stuff at 3840x1620 and then media editing tasks at full 5120 x 2160. It's a simple, one-click switch using Switch Pro X menu. 3840 gets me "HiDPI" while 5120 presents everything at about half size (but MUCH more space).

I make my living on this Mac and am generally working on it all day and into some nights. To me it feels like I simply have a wider iMac 27" screen with enough room for 3+ full-width windows side by side with some desktop room to spare. 27" 16:10 was pretty much 2 full-width windows side-by-side with no spare space... so I found myself doing the Mission Control virtual screen much more than I do now. The great benefit of UW is getting all of what you need comfortably on ONE screen.

As to the curve vs. your angled attempt, I don't know what to say there. I generally just rotate my head a bit to see whatever region of the screen I want to use at the moment, so it's basically always "centered" to my direct line of sight, whether actual center or extreme left or right. I don't have any sense of "strain" but I also never have any situation where I'm trying to take in everything on the screen at the same time.

I somewhat buy the curve proposition that it probably does make a bit of difference in terms of peripheral vision view when working with it like we do with computer screens (up close).

My best suggestion: check all of the stores around you to see if anyone has this panel (also available in a 40" UW from LG) on display. Maybe check with Dell directly to see if they can point you to a nearest store likely to have it. If so, take a laptop and hook it up to give it a test drive in person. Don't forget to check office stores like Office Depot and similar. Dell has pretty broad distribution with retailers. Maybe you can find one on display within 100 miles or so and then go get some first-hand experience with it to make your own judgement.

What I can offer is that I'm perfectly happy with this one hooked to Mac Studio Ultra. No way I would go back to 16:10 Apple or other, more "square" display options. Text looks crisp and clear- no less than the iMac this setup replaced. The bonus screen space is simply far too useful to return to any option that would take it away again.

I hope this is helpful.
 
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HobeSoundDarryl said:
I hope this is helpful.
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VERY helpful, thank you so much! I wish the Mac had Windows-type scaling so we could run our monitors at their native resolutions. I will try 3840x1620 resolution when I bring my laptop to the stores to check these monitors out (and I wouldn't have thought of bringing my laptop to a store even though it's obvious, so I'm glad you mentioned it!).

Three full-width windows without strain is better than what I had with my two 27" Dell 4Ks, which was four full-width windows with strain. 👍

Thanks again for the great info.
 
cottontheprt said:
Part of this is poor marketing of 5k screens. 5 sounds 20% more than 4k, but in reality 4K represents 8.3 million pixels whereas 5K is 14.7 million pixels, about 77% more.
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The difference between 4 and 5k to the human eye are almost non existent. Apple 5k displays feel like a gimmick. We’ve had 5k for 7 years now. If they offer a $2000 8k promotion display that would make sense. A full OLED or Micro LED display. Apples high end monitor is wonderful. But unless your making animation or a professional artists it’s useless for the money.
 
Sowelu said:
It's possible that this is just revealing what will eventually be the new 27" iMac Pro. It would make sense for the pro model to have a mini-LED display. Perhaps the panel itself is the only thing they got right, but it's not for a higher end Studio Display, but a powerful and higher end iMac.

It would be priced way under the 32" XDR, which could see a mini-LED upgrade as well (and a little more justification for the price). And it would also be inline with the MacBook Pro specs.

Just guesses, of course. Or wishful thinking. ;)
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Really don’t see Apple releasing any 27” iMacs anytime soon. 30” or 32” yes.
 
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Exactly. The market is ripe with wonderful displays. And many amazing used displays from the last 4-5 years are very competitive with stuff offered today.
 
spcopsmac21 said:
The difference between 4 and 5k to the human eye are almost non existent. Apple 5k displays feel like a gimmick. We’ve had 5k for 7 years now. If they offer a $2000 8k promotion display that would make sense. A full OLED or Micro LED display. Apples high end monitor is wonderful. But unless your making animation or a professional artists it’s useless for the money.
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Having used a 27" 4K at home and a 27" 5K at work, I can say that I do notice a difference in sharpness but only when the monitors are close up. If I push both of them further back on my desk, then I can't really tell the difference. I thought I would miss the 5K monitor when the WFH started but the 27" 4K has gotten the job done for my Graphic Design tasks.
 
ProfessionalFan said:
As someone who has used 4K and 5K screens a ton and side by side at times, I can say with 100% confidence that 5K is noticeably better than 4K especially when it comes to text. It is an absolute pleasure to work on a 5K screen (Studio Display for example) and I have a 4K 144hz LG Ultragear next to it. There is no comparison.
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I agree, I think 27" 1440p is the perfect working resolution where at 100% the OS scale is just the right size, then 5K is pixel doubled 1440p to then give the retina look to it. I honestly think that studio display is so close to being the perfect display for me. The issues for me are:
1. Price
2. 60Hz only (this really is a bandwidth limit at 5K with TB4).
3. Lack of a second input that a PC or work laptop can plug into. (Alternate input can be 60Hz only if required)
4. The stand design/pricing - The stand should be user changeable, and the default should just be the height adjustable with an option to change to Vesa in the box.

If they addressed those issues, I'd buy one immediately, even at the current price.
 
CPUs, Video Cards, Monitor displays...everything is just getting expensive nowadays while we will be going into a recession.
 
spcopsmac21 said:
The difference between 4 and 5k to the human eye are almost non existent. Apple 5k displays feel like a gimmick. We’ve had 5k for 7 years now. If they offer a $2000 8k promotion display that would make sense. A full OLED or Micro LED display. Apples high end monitor is wonderful. But unless your making animation or a professional artists it’s useless for the money.
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If you look at small text on a 4K and 5K next to each other, you can usually see that one is more legible than the other. If you are looking at video, the temporal aliasing, scaling, and compression will mask the difference.
 
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fathergll said:
I understand why you are thinking that but my main issue is the following;

  • During the March Peek performance event this year they stated the Mac Pro is up next for Apple Silicon.
  • Would Apple actually release a iMac Pro anywhere near the time of a new Mac Pro?(I vote no as Apple really spaces out brand new desktop designs as they use them more of a marketing tool "halo products".)
  • The current 27" Mac Studio display is more of a frankenstein of components Apple already uses. Its as if Apple was planning on doing some kind of Apple TV/iOS integration with the current model but axed it and just sold the display at an inflated price because it also same CPU as iPhone 11, 64 gb memory, using aging iMac panel tech(though panel is still very good and upgraded a bit).

My conspiracy guess is the 27" Mac Studio display gets axed as they are just reusing older components and the 27" Mini LED replaces it then they unlock whatever new feature they were planning on doing in the first place. This would be similar to how the iPhone 11 iPhone 12 had a U1 ultra-wideband chip which Apple didn't provide any info at the time why it was there and then later on Apple launched AirTag. There has to be some reason why they are loading up the current display with iOS components that you do not need(which is a major issue because the inflated price ruins the current Studio Display from being used in a multiple monitor setup unless you like paying money for extra webcams/storage..etc).
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Interesting. So the extra internals on the ASD is what's driving the cost up, but really, there doesn't seem to be a need for all that inside. But it doesn't sound like Apple to not have a fully realized and tested product before releasing to mass manufacturing. It is interesting though as it does feel like the ASD started as something else (Smart Display w/AppleTV, or iMac). And the cost just doesn't make sense, especially with the additional $400 for a stand/functionality that should have already been included. Sounds like attempts to recoup $$$ for all those extra parts because as you mentioned, the panel is very similar to the 27" 2020 iMac. There are improvements and the ASD is an upgrade, but they are very similar.
 
I really wish someone would make an affordable 5k monitor. The ancient 5k panel in the original retina iMacs would be more than good enough and can’t be that expensive.
 
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