Agree completely. Is 16GB RAM sufficient to run Photoshop, plus all the usual applications?
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Apple Rumored to Launch 27-Inch Mini-LED iMac With ProMotion in Early 2022 [Updated]
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Well, truth be told, I would probably rather the new iMac be 27", for a selfish reason. It has to cost less than one with a 30" or 32" and my old 27" iMac was pretty great, until it died. I now use a samsung 4K 32" but just don't need all that screen real estate. It is only 250 nits compared to the iMac 500 plus.
Kind of fun being old and still being excited by new gadgets. Hope the new macs including mac mini show up soon after the first of the year.
Kind of fun being old and still being excited by new gadgets. Hope the new macs including mac mini show up soon after the first of the year.
I will assume by default, this new bigger mini-LED iMac would use the M1 Pro chip, and also be available with the M1 Max system. After all, the 27" Retina iMac was long favored by professionals. Maybe the screen size will be 28" or 30". It'd be noticeably bigger than 24". (Though I do remember when Apple first made that LED Cinema Display from 2008 to 2011, it came in 24" and 27" sizes.)
Maybe THIS will also be when they finally announce or release a higher-end Mac Mini that hopefully uses the M1 Pro chip.
Maybe THIS will also be when they finally announce or release a higher-end Mac Mini that hopefully uses the M1 Pro chip.
HobeSoundDarryl
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There is so much rumor that the new iMac gets M2 but I agree with your guess. If M2 is an upgrade to M1 but not as loaded as Pro & Max, I just don't see it being THE lone chip option for a new flagship iMac... the "workstation" Mac that doesn't need any considerations for battery usage. I do NOT foresee 6-month old laptops (at the time) being viewed as having much more power than a brand new iMac 27"-32" desktop. If nothing else, it seems it would complicate the marketing if the lower number is publicized as still having the greater power.
So maybe M2 lands in select devices that carry M1s now but the bigger iMac gets the pro & max chips? OR maybe its a scenario of BTO with either an M2 or an M1 Pro or Max?
Or maybe the M2 max & pro (options) launch with the new iMac instead of next Fall when, potentially an M3 Super Max Mac Pro teased at WWDC rolls out for some small country's total GDP?
My current best guess: M2 Pro and maybe Max launches at the same time... OR anything new in Spring launches without any M2 at all... and M2 + M2 Pro + M2 MAX Macs all arrive next Fall.
So maybe M2 lands in select devices that carry M1s now but the bigger iMac gets the pro & max chips? OR maybe its a scenario of BTO with either an M2 or an M1 Pro or Max?
Or maybe the M2 max & pro (options) launch with the new iMac instead of next Fall when, potentially an M3 Super Max Mac Pro teased at WWDC rolls out for some small country's total GDP?
My current best guess: M2 Pro and maybe Max launches at the same time... OR anything new in Spring launches without any M2 at all... and M2 + M2 Pro + M2 MAX Macs all arrive next Fall.
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Oh I believe Apple could release a new TBD with the new iMac's panel. My comment was just that neither will have the notch.
Yes, 16GB unified RAM is like 32GB of RAM used to be under Intel. I've got native M1 PS 2021 and 16GB so I'm not just making this up.
As many of the designers that used to work on Apple silicon have jumped ship to other companies, I doubt Apple will have a M2 for the iMac in this time frame. It's far more likely the Pro will stay with the MacBook Pro and the new iMac will offer the M1Max. What I'd like to know, is if the bandwidth is all used to push 5K to an external monitor, I don't see how an external monitor can be also 5K as well as ProMotion? Mini-LED should be possible. If it's ProMotion as well, perhaps it will need two Thunderbolt cables.There is so much rumor that the new iMac gets M2 but I agree with your guess. If M2 is an upgrade to M1 but not as loaded as Pro & Max, I just don't see it being THE lone chip option for a new flagship iMac... the "workstation" Mac that doesn't need any considerations for battery usage. I do NOT foresee 6-month old laptops (at the time) being viewed as having much more power than a brand new iMac 27"-32" desktop. If nothing else, it seems it would complicate the marketing if the lower number is publicized as still having the greater power.
So maybe M2 lands in select devices that carry M1s now but the bigger iMac gets the pro & max chips? OR maybe its a scenario of BTO with either an M2 or an M1 Pro or Max?
Or maybe the M2 max & pro (options) launch with the new iMac instead of next Fall when, potentially an M3 Super Max Mac Pro teased at WWDC rolls out for some small country's total GDP?
My current best guess: M2 Pro and maybe Max launches at the same time... OR anything new in Spring launches without any M2 at all... and M2 + M2 Pro + M2 MAX Macs all arrive next Fall.
I've been hoping that someone is Apple, but I have a feeling they won't go the Ultra-wide route. A couple years ago I was in your position looking for a high res 36" ultra-wide and couldn't find one that was Thunderbolt friendly. I wound up settling for the 34" Samsung CJ791 because it checked the Thunderbolt and rear hub boxes and was available for $700 when I bought it. I'm glad I did as its 3440 x 1440 resolution does suffice for my needs at this time, but I've got my eyes open for a higher res, larger screen. At the price I got the Samsung for, I managed to convince my company to buy 50+ for all the developers as well, so I have one at home and in the office. That worked out well
2022 M2 line up
M2 (Good)___ MBA IMAC24 MAC MINI___ASi Base Models
M2 (Better)___MBP IMAC27 MAC PRO___ ASi Pro Models
M2 (Best)____ MBP IMAC32 MAC PRO___ASi Max Models
M2 (Good)___ MBA IMAC24 MAC MINI___ASi Base Models
M2 (Better)___MBP IMAC27 MAC PRO___ ASi Pro Models
M2 (Best)____ MBP IMAC32 MAC PRO___ASi Max Models
“While he initially stated the 27-inch mini-LED display was for an external monitor, he is now saying it is destined for an updated iMac. A monitor could come later.”
Or maybe, the confusion is because the next iMac won’t be an All-In-One. It will be this 27” monitor and a new Mini, both containing a battery/UPS, connected by a single USB cable, that also provides power, so only one wall plug needed to charge both.
Or maybe, the confusion is because the next iMac won’t be an All-In-One. It will be this 27” monitor and a new Mini, both containing a battery/UPS, connected by a single USB cable, that also provides power, so only one wall plug needed to charge both.
I've worked quite a bit on cars I've owned, even replacing an entire engine at one point. Less grease with an iMac (but more adhesive lol), but the principles are the same: have the right tools, materials and manuals on hand, go slow and keep everything organized. It's all great fun if you go in with a good attitude and plenty of time.
Eh, I don't know. Spreading the same number of pixels (or fewer) out over a much greater space doesn't seem so hot to me. I think 5K @ 27" is a great size with plenty of room to spread out.
Yep. Anything bigger than 24” really needs 5K. Keep seeing these 28”/32” 4K screens going around - a working area of 1920x1080 at THAT size just looks awful to me.
24” at 4K, 27” at 5K and 32” at 6K like they currently have but not thousands of dollars. Leave the 6K as the beast but they can do a decent 4.5K and 27” 5K surely?
The way to think about ultra wide monitors is to imagine that you have two monitors side by side, but no gap between them.
24GB RAM is fine on my current iMac, runs photoshop, indesign, and other apps well. But Google Chrome sucks up ALL of the RAM, to the detriment of everything else. I periodically have to quit Chrome, run my memory-clean software to purge the RAM and get things going speedily along. It’s just annoying, because I use G-Suite for work, so I basically always have chrome open. And every few hours, depending on how many different things (and apps) I’ve been using, I need to shut down and reopen Chrome. Safari is much faster and doesn’t seem to have the mem problem, but it is so limited in terms of setting bookmarks. You’d think no one at Apple has ever felt the need to organize groups of bookmarks into categories! Which I have been doing for years via a Chrome plugin. Honestly, that plug-in is the only reason I use Chrome daily!
Agree
Agreed! Is not a waste of money. Lol. It‘s just that since the iMac is unlikely to be expandable (RAM), unlike its predecessors, if I underestimate what I need, I’ll be very unhappy. And I don’t like to exchange or return things if I can help it. I just find that a huge waste of energy and time. I want to order the right configuration out of the gate. 😀
The iMac M1 gives you access to macOS Monterey and APFS. Sure, you can’t run Crysis, but it doesn’t make it a waste of money.
I constantly jump onto older computers when I’m rendering or exporting.
What would you do with the 27” iMac with 32GB of RAM when the thread is locked?
Sit and wait?
Agreed! Is not a waste of money. Lol. It‘s just that since the iMac is unlikely to be expandable (RAM), unlike its predecessors, if I underestimate what I need, I’ll be very unhappy. And I don’t like to exchange or return things if I can help it. I just find that a huge waste of energy and time. I want to order the right configuration out of the gate. 😀
Do the new processors mitigate the not so dangerous hardware flaw found in the M1 and A14? I knows its not a massive issue but I would like to buy a new iMac with CPU thats been patched. I wonder if the A15 patched it too?
www.theregister.com
Unfixable Apple M1 chip bug enables cross-process chatter, breaking OS security model
M1RACLES flaw embarrassing, not that dangerous
I think he means that the resolution of the ultra-wide monitors looks weird at the physical size of the screen.
I tend to agree. If my 27" 5k monitor can display a resolution of 3360 x 1890, then a larger physical screen size needs to scale up the resolution from there, not nearly cut it in half.
Of course, that may not be what he meant. ?♂️
I'd have no problem with this, micro-led/OLED can effectively blackout the areas to the left and right in full screen mode, and give extra screen real estate for menu bars and status the rest of the time.
With current camera and display tech, the notch gives you more usable screen, not less.
I think the fatter top bezel would be OK on a iMac, for a 1080 camera and microphones. Probably won't happen because the notch will become accepted.
HobeSoundDarryl
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What is this "fat" that we keep slinging around? Apple jut put a 1080p FaceTime camera in the iPad Mini 6 with no notch. That bezel appears to be only 10mm. I presume these new MBpros have a bezel "thinner" than 10mm but it doesn't look like it is that much thinner. If it is- say- 5mm in the new MBs, would 5 more mm be "fat"... the equivalent of looking at a stack of 2 nickels and a penny from the side?
As defenders try to rationalize the notch here, they seem to be doing a good job of planting this concept that bezels would have to be a LOT thicker to fit the FaceTime camera. However, Apple has just shown they can get 1080p in the iPad Mini 6 bezel that is about 10mm.
If MBp bezel is less than 10mm and Apple wants to "hide" the notch, make the top and bottom bezels the same size as iPad Mini 6 to get visual symmetry and a notchless MBpro that also has the upgraded FaceTime camera. They obviously CAN do it because they just did it in iPad Mini.
