Don't look at any of the Valve threads.
I still find that slide insulting.
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Apples MacBook Pro: Rotting Core? What Apple Doesn't Want You To Realize.
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I believe many digital media professionals buy macbooks or just macs in general is the incentive of the software. Apple offers exclusive software only for OSX like aperture, final cut pro, and logic studios. These programs have been highly noted and compete with other high-end PC software (like avid's video editor).
Sure, the hardware on the macbooks are obviously outdated or behind in power. But the software runs cleanly on the computer, no problems. I havn't heard an issue about the software running slow from friends who own macbooks, if anything they just needed a RAM upgraded.
Now when i look at various windows laptops. I'm amazed at how theres so much advanced hardware (ie. i7, 8gbRAM, etc.) in these laptops. But there ave been many lag issues due to the software issues that my friends complain about.
I'm a diehard photographer, i am a tech geek as you claim that all photographers are. I run Adobe Lightroom on my macbook. Yes, i could run it on my suped up gaming windows computer, but i just love OSX and Apples other software, because it runs on my outdated underclocked hardware white macbook or my imac fast and efficiently. no issues to worry about
Sure, the hardware on the macbooks are obviously outdated or behind in power. But the software runs cleanly on the computer, no problems. I havn't heard an issue about the software running slow from friends who own macbooks, if anything they just needed a RAM upgraded.
Now when i look at various windows laptops. I'm amazed at how theres so much advanced hardware (ie. i7, 8gbRAM, etc.) in these laptops. But there ave been many lag issues due to the software issues that my friends complain about.
I'm a diehard photographer, i am a tech geek as you claim that all photographers are. I run Adobe Lightroom on my macbook. Yes, i could run it on my suped up gaming windows computer, but i just love OSX and Apples other software, because it runs on my outdated underclocked hardware white macbook or my imac fast and efficiently. no issues to worry about
Not to mention that the majority of those PC laptops with the new core i series have poor washed out screens which would not be ideal for a videographer or a professional photographer. Sony's new Vaio F series is a perfect example of this. Sony makes you buy the upgraded premium screen to avoid a washed out experience on your shiny new i7 Quad Core Vaio. Specs aren't everything if the screens suck.
Color profiles more than anything else. The default OS X ones were terrible until recently. I still have to use a custom profile for my MacBook even under Snow Leopard.
Yes, MacBooks are still using TN panels. Try your superiority elsewhere and not where you have nice BTO.
PC notebooks have better screens nowadays. Better resolution. Also, you can not get RGB LED backlit on Mac - only on PC notebook. So yes, Macs are inferior in this department.
There are alternatives for all these applications on PC. In many (all?) cases the alternatives will be better. Like Photoshop CS4 64bit being available only on PCs.
Uh WRONG. I could care less that you find higher resolutions on PC screens, if you have limited vertical viewing angles and crappy black level who the hell cares if the screen is true HD 1080p resolution. You must be referring to the higher end Dell Latitude series or their business line.
What??? Did you write this wrong? I don't even understand what you said.
Look man, I have to question why you are here at all? In the majority of your posts you've all but explained any reason for you to be interested in Macs. But rather you've gone out of your way to defend the PC world of computing all the way down to posting an unofficial link about Apple claiming to have FIXED the yellow screen issue. Why R U here???
It's available on the XPS line.
I suggest that you use the multiquote instead of triple posting as well.
I get books, music, and movies for free.
This is one negative thread, who cares about who can beat who... Let's just wait tell the new line comes out and then the product will speak for it's self.
Everything is expensive these days, just keep looking for the best deals on anything you want with anything in it!
Everything is expensive these days, just keep looking for the best deals on anything you want with anything in it!
I'm kinda surprised at the surprise at the negativity in this thread.
Apple makes good products and a good OS that will make up for a small lag in specs and a marginal increase in price. To understand that statement is to understand Apple. No other computer company could even get away with that much! They lag a tiny almost undetectable amount and they are worthless. However, to think you don't "get" Apple when you complain that one of their main lines of computers is practically slipping into the stone age in terms of technology and still costs an arm and a leg is ridiculous. Yes, it is that bad. Shame on
Apple makes good products and a good OS that will make up for a small lag in specs and a marginal increase in price. To understand that statement is to understand Apple. No other computer company could even get away with that much! They lag a tiny almost undetectable amount and they are worthless. However, to think you don't "get" Apple when you complain that one of their main lines of computers is practically slipping into the stone age in terms of technology and still costs an arm and a leg is ridiculous. Yes, it is that bad. Shame on
because it's mostly a BS argument..
spend 60 hrs organizing and shooting the photos then countless hours editing etc but they're somehow going to be worried about applying a filter in 18 seconds instead of 20 seconds like it took on their 1 year old washed up & outdated processor??
a minimally faster computer isn't going to make 1 bit of noticeable difference when you consider how much overall work is going into a project..
Apple has baited and switched their customers. They found a successful niche selling high end, high performance machines. Prosumers and professionals wanting exactly that adopted the brand, were very pleased with the product and created a reputation for the company as high end, high quality. However, today their reputation precedes them. They no longer need to produce high performance product to be successful. The brand is selling the products more than the products selling themselves!
The most valuable accomplishment this reputation has achieved is mass appeal to the general consumer. This market definitely outnumbers the prosumer and professional markets. The general consumer market has more dollars and more profit potential AND they're a hell of a lot easier to impress! That's why they're able to sell outdated technology as high end, proffessional grade at exorbant prices. The whole company is gearing towards the general consumer. Look around. What products are they producing today compared to that of 10 years ago?
But hey, that followlng they created back at the beginning is still right there following. Even if they wanted to switch they don't have a choice. They're too far rooted in mac and it would cost too much. Or they're just so lovestruck that they'll swollow anything Apple wants to set in front of them. And people just refuse to change. Habbits, ideas, sentiments. People will always cling to their favorites.
For me, what it all boils down to is this:
The company is going to sell what makes the most money for as high a profit as they can. You can't fight it. You can't argue with it and you can hardly blame them. If Apple cared they would pass the savings from cheaper hardware on to their customers and sell the mbps at a more reasonable price. But reasonable is a matter of opinion. If it's worth it to you, or you feel inclined to support a company that profits off of it's customer's ignorance, give them your money. (pure cynicism; my apologies.)
I'm waiting until I'll actually get my money's worth.
The most valuable accomplishment this reputation has achieved is mass appeal to the general consumer. This market definitely outnumbers the prosumer and professional markets. The general consumer market has more dollars and more profit potential AND they're a hell of a lot easier to impress! That's why they're able to sell outdated technology as high end, proffessional grade at exorbant prices. The whole company is gearing towards the general consumer. Look around. What products are they producing today compared to that of 10 years ago?
But hey, that followlng they created back at the beginning is still right there following. Even if they wanted to switch they don't have a choice. They're too far rooted in mac and it would cost too much. Or they're just so lovestruck that they'll swollow anything Apple wants to set in front of them. And people just refuse to change. Habbits, ideas, sentiments. People will always cling to their favorites.
For me, what it all boils down to is this:
The company is going to sell what makes the most money for as high a profit as they can. You can't fight it. You can't argue with it and you can hardly blame them. If Apple cared they would pass the savings from cheaper hardware on to their customers and sell the mbps at a more reasonable price. But reasonable is a matter of opinion. If it's worth it to you, or you feel inclined to support a company that profits off of it's customer's ignorance, give them your money. (pure cynicism; my apologies.)
I'm waiting until I'll actually get my money's worth.
wait, what?
apple has always been inferior in the specs dept... i can't ever remember there being an apple computer that couldn't be outspec'd or outperformed by some other pc..
maybe you're saying something different than i'm thinking you are but this spec war has been going on forever and it's always been the same old story..
I don't think I've ever seen an Apple laptop with competitive specs, so your whole post is moot. People buy Macs for the user experience. Guess where most of the R&D goes? Last time I checked, Apple is still the class leader in user experience. Money well spent indeed. Spec whores should stick to failing markets like the Windows $1000+ laptop market.
Most Mac users will gladly trade a $2000 Alienware Core i7 laptop for a $1200 MBP C2D. The funny thing? In three years the MBP will be worth more.
And the rant about how video/photo professionals knowing their specs is beyond retarded. My roommate is a pro photographer and he doesn't know what a Core i7 is! Stop pulling crap out of your ass, seriously.
Most people will look at it like this, even if they are extremely rich.
$500 PC laptop vs $1200 MBP
2.0 ghz < 2.2 ghz
17inch > 13 inch
4gb ram > 2 gb ram
320 gb hdd > 160 gb Hdd
And then they buy the laptop.
[Tangent]
I keep seeing people write "I could care less" and it really confused me... Where did this come from... Why do you use it?
Anyway ffs I can't stand it. [/Tangent]
Carry on people.
Nowhere do I compare Mac specs to PC specs. Nor does it have any bearing what-so-ever on the point I was making. YOUR post is moot.
I agree about the user experience. It is what separates Windows from OSX. That is why I am not opting to buy a Windows machine. But again, it has no bearing on my point. Which is, as you apparently don't get it: Apple exploitationally capitalizing on their reputation as a high end brand to falsely and deceptively market and sell their "Pro" products as such. That point absolutely is debatable and I encourage you to do so.
I can't imagine how/why anyone would find that particular slide "insulting".
Care to peel off some of the mystique and elaborate on what causes that feeling?
(Macs have always been intended to be "artist-oriented" machines for creative types)
I'm not an artist.I can't imagine how/why anyone would find that particular slide "insulting".
Care to peel off some of the mystique and elaborate on what causes that feeling?
(Macs have always been intended to be "artist-oriented" machines for creative types)
Absent said:
'High end' refers to something on the higher end of a scale. This scale is composed of computers. You made a comparison right there to other computers. What is a high performance computer if you have nothing to compare it to? I think you need to sit back, relax and think about what you are saying.
Hey I just made a laptop out of paper. It's high end, high performance since I'm not comparing it to anything!
For a “hardware” site, the author delved into the OS with the same heavy-handed treatment...At first I thought it was a hit job, but once I thought about it... I think that article is right on the money. Especially with the recent rumor that the MBP line won't see an update until April at the earliest.
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What are your guy's opinion on the article?
McAfee and Norton AntiVirus !?!?Paul Escallier @ Tom's Guide said:
ROTFLMAO.
What do you do with a laptop after it's replaced?
Sold a 2007 Macbook for $730 off craigslist a few months ago.
McAfee and Norton AntiVirus !?!?
ROTFLMAO.
Clearly the author is a Windows user. LOL.
(In regards to your post before edit)
What can you do with a liberal arts degree? It's pretty much the 'I can't figure out a major' degree isn't it?