Queen6
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Two years 😵 were not talking about going to Mars, and lets face it the 2016 MBP is far from free of flaws, just exactly how much time does Apple need to get things right? As stated Apple needs to deliver bottom line...
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Two years 😵 were not talking about going to Mars, and lets face it the 2016 MBP is far from free of flaws, just exactly how much time does Apple need to get things right? As stated Apple needs to deliver bottom line...
Q-6
Two years was pure speculation based on a typical project end to end. Apple only said it wouldn't make an appearance this year, so anything from January 2018 is fair game... so it could be ALOT less than 2 years. So until we know for sure, should we stop talking about this like it's fact, and therefore stop getting all upset about it?
...Or at the very least, go get upset and complain about it in a relevant topic.
DUIduckSAUCE
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Nah, these threads are much more entertaining when people are upset. Jobs would never have allowed this.
Queen6
macrumors G5
Exactly Steve Jobs would never have allowed the Mac & OS X to become the joke it is today...
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DanielSw
macrumors 6502
And I'm so glad you don't work for Apple, as it'll totally be worth the wait for them to get the Mac Pro right!
BornAgainMac
macrumors 604
It illustrates Apple going offtrack. It would be like McDonalds selling powerful laptops for professionals running their own Linux distribution.
Google has never lost sight of its search engine -- it is better than ever. Amazon has never lost sight of its online marketplace -- it is better than ever. If the same were true of Apple and computers, you'd be exactly right. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Apple making money on Apple Music or Watch bands or anything else. I happen to love the Watch bands and have spent a ton on them. But the problem with your comparison to Google and Amazon is that they expanded their focus while Apple arguably has lost its focus on the Mac.
latweek
macrumors regular
What's frustrating as a professional Apple user is...........who do you think makes all that product (audio, photo, video) Apple is selling, streaming/subscribitions, generating all that revenue on all those devices and services?
And you're nickel and diming us????? The difference between Steve and Tim is the clear contempt for creatives. Tim just doesn't get it because he's too busy reaching behind the couch cushions looking for loose change.....It's a penny wise pound foolish strategy at Apple today.
The professional creative community should be highly-enabled, incentivized, and become a center of their product focus and R&D, because bottom line, pros are the point of origin for all the other revenue channels they depend on.
And you're nickel and diming us????? The difference between Steve and Tim is the clear contempt for creatives. Tim just doesn't get it because he's too busy reaching behind the couch cushions looking for loose change.....It's a penny wise pound foolish strategy at Apple today.
The professional creative community should be highly-enabled, incentivized, and become a center of their product focus and R&D, because bottom line, pros are the point of origin for all the other revenue channels they depend on.
Oh please. I'm not particularly thrilled about the state of Mac hardware, but they are most definitely "real" computers. I do real work and make real money with mine every day. I think what you meant to say is, Apple hasn't made a computer that caters to a minuscule fraction of the computer buying public in ages.
Although when did they ever make such a machine? Macs have never been top performers. The trash can "Pro" is ridiculous but it's not like the previous one ran circles around PCs. I find the current Mac lineup somewhat stale, but my growing dissatisfaction with Apple has less to do with Mac hardware and more to do with stagnation on the OS side and the continued erosion of UI consistency.
gigapocket1
macrumors 68030
Hmmm and maybe that is why they dropped computers from their name a few years back..
So that people won't only think of them as a computer company
atikalz
macrumors regular
This number of employees and money power is exactly the reason to not excuse for the lack of innovation in the Mac department. Why does it take years and years to just update computers? And don't build airports, monitors and so on?
You're dreaming. Apple's primary focus should be a tiny fraction of their customer base? Apple doesn't care one bit where, or on what hardware platform, content is created. They care about CONSUMPTION. And the teeny tiny pro market segment you think should be Apple's main focus needs those consumers. If Apple's hardware isn't meeting your needs (which I can totally understand), get over yourself and buy a PC.
I'm a "pro" who uses Macs to make his living and I have no problem doing my "pro" work on a three year old MacBook Pro. I'm a database developer, not a media pro, but I'm just as much a professional user and for me the Mac is still a great platform. Of course I realize most media pros think that they're the only pro customer, but truth be told, you're the minority. Apple targeted creative professionals back in the day and catered to them, and back then they were the focus because they provided a huge chunk of Apple's revenue. Today the media pro customer barely registers on Apple's radar. Maybe they've had a change of heart and the new Mac Pro will deliver, but I wouldn't count on it. Apple is focused on the consumer market, for obvious reasons.
latweek
macrumors regular
See, there you missed it like Tim. Forest, meet trees. What I was saying is that you would get NO revenue bump DIRECTLY from producing computers for the actual professional.....
You get it from investing in their creative output. Ergo my whole point about the OTHER REVENUE STREAMS LIKE (Music, Movies, Photo, etc). You do this thing called investing in your future, its where you don't make pros use 3 year old boxes.
Computing as a consumer revenue stream is dead, and even their cherished mobile iOS devices are totally stagnant. Unless you are an emoji developer. So it comes down to services (Apple Music, BEATS 1, r u getting it now?) And who makes all that content?? Right.
Hope using CAPS this time helps. Oh, and before you jump to a reply without reading this...........a database developer is DEFINITELY not part of making my point, so please try to stay on point if you have to reply again.
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Kaibelf
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1. Apple makes more off Apple Music than the Mac Pro.
2. Apple can do more than one thing at a time.
3. Your priorities don't apply to the whole world.
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Except McDonalds doesn't make laptops, but Apple DOES own Beats.
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If you want things to run differently, become CEO of Apple and change it. If you're that upset, choose a different company. And finally, please stop acting like working as a self-proclaimed "actual pro" makes you Jesus Christ. You're no better than anyone else.
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DakotaGuy
macrumors 601
No I don't think you can expect that, but what have they been doing since 2013 when the last Mac Pro was introduced? When automakers introduce a redesigned model they are already starting work on the model that will replace it. The day after the Mac Pro 2013 was introduced they should have been working on it's successor. Seems to me they just dropped the ball on their desktop PCs because they don't have much interest in that business these days.
Swift
macrumors 68000
Absolutely none. But you know, bitching.
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Amazon is an online bookstore. Okay, Kindles, but Echoes? They stream movies too? How DARE they!
doelcm82
macrumors 68040
Maybe they have been working on an updated Mac Pro since 2013. And maybe they've come close to releasing it, only to realize that some part of the design didn't really work like they wanted it to. So what they released this year IS the model that replaces the 2013 model. And now they're rethinking what a Mac Pro should be. They've apparently already started that process even before releasing the 2017 model.
Swift
macrumors 68000
When they started, they must have believed that Intel chips would now get faster a little slower, due to major physical constraints on the smaller and smaller channels, and somebody on the engineering group that, hey, pop two GPUs and a CPU in a circular configuration. The cooling tower will mean a much quieter computer, and CL2 would mean that GPUs could be used for other things besides image calcuations and games. Did that turn out to be true? No. Apple's always had problems projecting into the future, because CPUs and GPUs are part of the stack that they control. Somedody goofed, big-time. Everyboey does, eventually. Yes, it would take a week for Apple to gin up a case and all the normal computer parts in a normal configuration. It would come out looking like a Dell. Lots of other companies make those boxes. Apple doesn't.
AxoNeuron
macrumors 65816
Does anyone actually listen to this nonsense...? I understand why, from a strategic perspective, Apple felt the need to enter the streaming business. But if they really wanted it to succeed they should have done so with a much bigger 'bang' and made it close to free for the first few years to bankrupt their competitors.