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Wow. Not sure how you got that out of my comment. It's like if I asked someone if I could borrow a dollar and they then assumed I was broke.

My comment had zero about services and everything to do with Apple's current lackluster product line-up -- the complete line-up because again I didn't mention the MacPro either, you pulled that out of thin air. The point of my comment is that Apple is seemingly trying to look cool these day where in the past the were cool because of the products they pushed out.

You can back-up your phone (or any other iOS device) for free to a computer. I agree that Apple will most likely make this free, or at least increase the free limit well above 5GB, but in the mean time, I don't think its unreasonable to pay for iCloud Storage - it's not exactly expensive.
 
It's not a direct correlation, but I think they were more more making a sarcastic but accurate observation that Apple is making the news cycles with what most would agree are trivial things en masse, while ignoring the things that truly matter, product innovation.

I agree, it's very weird lately that Apple has been lagging in:

-iPhone vs competition (SGS 7, and SGS 8, and Pixel, etc etc etc)
-Mac Pro (any major high end computer) with 4 year old specs
-Macbook Pro vs competition (any high end laptop on the market) with 2 year old processor\ram
-iMac vs competition (Surface Studio)
-iPad vs competition (Surface Pro)
-Routers (killed)
-Monitors (killed)
-Apple TV 2 years old now (and still no single provider login for 99% of Americans as promised in 2015)
-iPod lineup untouched since 2015 (2 years)
-iOS largely unchanged in 2 years
-macOS largely unchanged in 6 years
-mac Mini untouched in 3.5 years (solution for one who doesn't want to buy a $5000 Pro?)


But hey, it's great Apple is focusing on things like:

-Taking a full year to add water resistance to Apple Watch 2
-Build a Beats One studio in New York
-Replacing gun emoji with squirt gun
-Adding "multicultural" emojis
-Adding a red iPhone to the line and changing all major city billboards to show it off
-A revolutionary "touch bar" with virtually no use
-1 year to make a new iPhone with no new features except a removal of headphone jack, price hike
-AirPods (3 months delayed)
-Beats X (5 months delayed)
-A new campus which analysts say Apple will never fully occupy
-Outspoken against Trump's policies while employing over 20,000 H1B visa workers to avoid labor cost


I guess that's all I have. Reading through the list it's really depressing, especially if you go back and look at Apple's release history in a set of years like 2000-2005, or 2005 to 2010 and then compare it to the release history of 2012-present. It really is a different company today.

The main issue here looking at priorities and revenue, is that Apple is now focusing on services (Beats One, iTunes, Payment Services, etc) for a bulk of their revenue. That worked for a company like HP because they went to a service model and when providing Business Services, it works because businesses are a lot more sticky, whereas consumer services can be gone in an instant, as soon as "the next best thing" comes out... And for Apple, it's super scary because their services are 100% reliant on Apple products. You don't buy a Samsung Phone and buy books\movies\songs from iTunes. You don't buy a Microsoft tablet and buy Office from Apple. You don't buy a Dell computer and subscribe to iCloud storage, and you don't use ApplePay with a Google Pixel phone. So once someone departs the ecosystem, there will be a period of time and then the revenue will drop from the big money maker, the services. Sadly Apple isn't seeing this yet, as they lose iPhone, tablet, and computer marketshare, but rest assured, it will come.

WINNER! I think this is the most emotionally garbage comment in this thread.

Especially given you were going on less than a few days ago about buying the red iPhone 7 for the YUGE radio improvements :rolleyes:.
 
WINNER! I think this is the most emotionally garbage comment in this thread.

Especially given you were going on less than a few days ago about buying the red iPhone 7 for the YUGE radio improvements :rolleyes:.

I ended up swapping my 7+ ATT for a 7+ SIM FREE. It is slightly better in the weak areas I go. Certainly noticeable. And given there is fact based evidence showing 5-20% improvement I question why you'd mock someone who wants a 5-20% improvement if they frequent signal lacking areas, unless you're projecting self reassurance based on your own guilt to justify having bought a 5-20% inferior product.

But thanks for the name calling of my opinions on what apple has and hasn't done lately. You're an amazing contributor to this discussion.

And PS the points I made are facts not emotional statements. Feel free to disprove any one of them.
 
Does anyone even listen to Beats 1 ?

Yes.

Although I appreciate it is difficult for people who don't do something to get their heads around the idea that other people might.

(And I'm 46, before anyone asks. I just didn't stop listening to new music once I hit 30)

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Beats 1. All the simpleton, rhyming Hip-Hop crap you could ask for on a single station. Ugh.

MacRumors posters still bleating on about hip hop on Beats 1. All the misinformed nonsense you could ask for on a single forum.

:p
 
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Apple has over 100,000 employees around the world. Are they all supposed to be working on the Mac Pro?
I understand the sarcasm, but you can't expect Apple to drop everything else they're working on until the modular Mac Pro is ready.
If you start using numbers, quote the right numbers in the right context because you're misleading everybody. 100.000 employees are divided over hunderds of countries and disciplines.
Core engineering staff however are in the tens/hundreds, which is unexplainably scarce, and therefore they became transferred from Mac (Pro)- into iPhone development groups, which basically means that:
1) There are apparently too few engineers to fully staff both departments, which is an abhorrent situation in a tech company of this size and importance
2) Subsequently, techn. know-how that was built up in and around the Mac division, has been lost or gone out of focus. More specifically, transfer of engineers between different products creates generalisms, where specialisms get lost.
While that can have the specific advantage of creating more generalised know-how, in this particular case the lack of engineering capacity is referenced as the only reason of these transfers.
That's a sign of bad, not to say terrible tech management.
I find it difficult to say that there is a correlation here with (Music) Services (whether it is in or out of shops, content to be generated by Eddy Cue) or other obstacles.
Top Management however has focused on new activities and is in severe neglect where it comes to core prod. development & manufacturing - as they have acknowledged themselves now.
 
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