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I still think a 12.9" iPad Pro is probably too big. I'm thinking something closer to 11.9" or similar. Noticeably bigger than an iPad Air, but not very massive. The iPad Air is about 22% bigger than the iPad Mini. An 11.9" iPad Pro is about 22% bigger than an iPad Air. For MacBooks, Apple is fairly consistent with the 13.3" MBA being 15% bigger than the 11.6" MBA, and the 15.4" MBP is about 16% bigger than the 13.3" MBA/MBP. The 4.7" iPhone 6 would be about 17% bigger than an iPhone 5/5S 4", and the 5.5" iPhone 6 would be about 17% larger than a 4.7" iPhone 6. So everything is fairly evenly spaced. They might go completely against this, but it's just something that I noticed. That and 11.9" just sounds right to me. The only thing that might throw that off is if they switch aspect ratios, and wider does make more sense for productivity apps that snap side by side.

TL;DR: Apple evenly spaces out their screen sizes across product lines for the most part. 11.9" iPad Pro makes sense when looking at patterns.
 
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Everyone assumes that iWatch will run an UI that is similar to iOS. I think that is unlikely. The iOS UI was optimized for a smartphone. Yes, it is used in iPad, but it frankly isn't great there and it is used mainly to make the transition from your phone easier. And to allow Apps to cross sell easier.

But this watch's screen is going to be so small, I think the UI has to change.
 
At this point it's obvious Apple is throwing people off with all of these different sizes... Probably trying to weed out the leakers.

No that isn't obvious at all. It's also possible that these analysts are worried that the rumors they have been spreading around sre wrong and they don't want to look dumb or folks will stop listening to them. So they spread around more rumors including delays and supply issues to cover their butts.

Including this 'but not until next year' crap. IF this watch is real and IF Apple announces it this year they will launch it this year. Such an item would be too good of a choice for holiday shopping not to have it out by then.
 
Well it doesn't make sense to have a smart watch when you will still need a phone in your pocket for functionality . What a waste of money if you asked me except for the loyalists . :)

You would think that, but I've heard pebble owners talk about how much they prefer the experience of getting quick info on their wrist instead of pulling out your phone, powering on, unlocking etc.
 
Everyone assumes that iWatch will run an UI that is similar to iOS. I think that is unlikely. The iOS UI was optimized for a smartphone. Yes, it is used in iPad, but it frankly isn't great there and it is used mainly to make the transition from your phone easier. And to allow Apps to cross sell easier.

But this watch's screen is going to be so small, I think the UI has to change.

Agreed. My money's on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noe3kR8KqJc
 
It better look like a normal wrist watch, because all those geeky smart watches out there just suck. Even the Moto360, it is really fat.

Either that, or a completely different design, such as a bracelet-type design using curved display so that a large part of the "band" is actually the device.

For me, it needs to be comfortable to wear all day and look good doing it. It needs to have an all-day battery (charging overnight) at a minimum. And it has to actually have a purpose in life instead of just being a stripped-down version of what I already carry with me 99% of the time. (The Galaxy Gear fails miserably on all these counts, by the way.)
 
No way. iWatch won't have a touchscreen, it'll have a 3D beamy thing giving a hologram effect like off Star Wars, all which is fully interactive. This means if you need more real-estate or add new features, it's not a problem; one of the main advantages when the iPhone didn't come with a physical keyboard. Otherwise there's no advantage to a small touchscreen; it won't add any functionality to the ecosystem. It won't be as good as an iPhone/iPad for browsing, making calls, or anything else. It'll be redundant.

My money's firmly on Apple popping in some technology 5-10 years ahead of their competitors' pipelines. If they perfect it they could easily have it running in tandem with an iPhone to make calls (much like OS X 10.10 will), without the limitations of the Galaxy Gear (crappy sluggish interface and tiny screen).

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I really hope you are right, but unless Apple has some kind of advanced battery to go with it, I can't see the power constraints working for this...

But this would be an instant buy on my part if it had this kind of tech.
 
Personally I think 1.8" is a little too big for a watch. If you make it round, this equals to about 46mm diameter. That is already a very big watch, as sizes go.

Myself, I prefer something like 41-43mm, which would make it around 1.6", anything larger looks really clunky...
 
I'll probably have to have one but I like my Casio G-Shock watch with solar power and Atomic set clock. You don't do anything-the perfect watch. Except it is too big.
 
I personally think the one people who will be purchasing these watches are loyalist

Probably the launch day folks will be enthusiasts. But that's true of any new Apple product line. I think the potential is enormous for this thing, when you consider health, home automation, indoor mapping, commerce, Apple TV, etc.

This thing will NOT be simply be a notification machine or glorified pedometer.
 
Branded as the iPod?

A lot of people are calling this product the iWatch, as if it's a completely new product category which needs a new name - but here's a thought - what if it's actually called the iPod?

In other words, this product line is actually going to be a major rethinking of what the iPod actually is? Most people now buy iPhones instead of the iPod touch etc. Apple hasn't really talked about iPods in their events for a long while.

So, calling the new product the "iPod" would leverage the brand name that everybody knows and loves already.

It's just that instead of the iPods of old which go in your pocket, Apple is basically saying that that the iPhone is now your pocketable device - and that the iPod is going to be reborn in a different form factor.

We will then see the end of the iPod classic etc.
 
Well it doesn't make sense to have a smart watch when you will still need a phone in your pocket for functionality . What a waste of money if you asked me except for the loyalists . :)

You. Don't. Know. The. Features.

How can you talk about it being a waste of money when Apple hasn't even spoken a WORD about it?

Again, you know very little about it.

No that isn't obvious at all. It's also possible that these analysts are worried that the rumors they have been spreading around sre wrong and they don't want to look dumb or folks will stop listening to them. So they spread around more rumors including delays and supply issues to cover their butts.

Including this 'but not until next year' crap. IF this watch is real and IF Apple announces it this year they will launch it this year. Such an item would be too good of a choice for holiday shopping not to have it out by then.

If the analysts were worried about being right/wrong then they would say "Apple has put several sizes into production, including XYZ, but will only mass produce XY."

All of these analysts have different sources and yes clearly some analysts are getting the correct info and some are probably purposefully getting wrong info. It doesn't have anything to do with analysts looking dumb.

When analysts wanna cover their tracks they also say "production bottlenecks" or "delayed".
 
Whenever I see a pic of Ive I think of bezels.... Huge, symmetrical, aluminum bezels... :p

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Durability

Most watches I have or have owned have pretty durable watch crystals. I wonder if the iWatch is going to be a durable of if like the iPhone, the glass is going to be easily cracked.
 
I still think a 12.9" iPad Pro is probably too big. I'm thinking something closer to 11.9" or similar. Noticeably bigger than an iPad Air, but not very massive. The iPad Air is about 22% bigger than the iPad Mini. An 11.9" iPad Pro is about 22% bigger than an iPad Air. For MacBooks, Apple is fairly consistent with the 13.3" MBA being 15% bigger than the 11.6" MBA, and the 15.4" MBP is about 16% bigger than the 13.3" MBA/MBP. The 4.7" iPhone 6 would be about 17% bigger than an iPhone 5/5S 4", and the 5.5" iPhone 6 would be about 17% larger than a 4.7" iPhone 6. So everything is fairly evenly spaced. They might go completely against this, but it's just something that I noticed. That and 11.9" just sounds right to me. The only thing that might throw that off is if they switch aspect ratios, and wider does make more sense for productivity apps that snap side by side.

TL;DR: Apple evenly spaces out their screen sizes across product lines for the most part. 11.9" iPad Pro makes sense when looking at patterns.

did you just make one mega typo when you said the 1.3" and 17% larger when you meant the 1.7" and 13% larger because the MBA/MBP is proportionally 13% of the 2002 14" BMP 17% and 1.9" iPad when compared to the 3G/3Gs/4/5C is 7%.??
 
I would only consider buying one of those iWatches if they look like an actual watch and not like those redic mockups that make it look like an iPod Nano on your wrist.

Can you imagine wearing one of these during a business meeting? embarrassing
 
Obviously they know nothing about a product that is not in production. As soon as the production starts we see the device in full well before the release. Just look at the iphone 6. We have basically known exactly what it will look like for at least 2 months.

Or not. I don't think we've seen any real parts yet, except maybe the screen. And that's a maybe.
 
remember those iPod nanos,

and their watch bands...

yep, no one bought those

USELESS DEVICE! :mad:
 
No way. iWatch won't have a touchscreen, it'll have a 3D beamy thing giving a hologram effect like off Star Wars, all which is fully interactive. This means if you need more real-estate or add new features, it's not a problem; one of the main advantages when the iPhone didn't come with a physical keyboard. Otherwise there's no advantage to a small touchscreen; it won't add any functionality to the ecosystem. It won't be as good as an iPhone/iPad for browsing, making calls, or anything else. It'll be redundant.

My money's firmly on Apple popping in some technology 5-10 years ahead of their competitors' pipelines. If they perfect it they could easily have it running in tandem with an iPhone to make calls (much like OS X 10.10 will), without the limitations of the Galaxy Gear (crappy sluggish interface and tiny screen).

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I think you will be thoroughly disappointed unfortunately. We all wish that Apple could come up with something magical but let's be brutally honest for a second and just asses the current state of affairs in regards of technology and design with Apple by looking at the iPhone (including the mockups and part leaks of the upcoming iPhone 6): do you really think they have the resources (creativity, technology, etc) to do so?

I don't think so :(
 
Okay now it just sounds like people are taking iPhone rumours and applying them to the iWatch. C'mon guys! There will be one version of the iWatch to begin with, I fully believe that. Maybe in a second generation Apple will offer a larger variety.
 
Diversity is good.

I'm glad Apple is giving choices as longs as their product line doesn't become too confused.

Like the iPad line: Selling 4 variants of the two models and then two older models. I kind of miss Apples simple 1 or 2 product lineups.
 
Multiple models is the way to go since these are equal parts fashion/function. And the facade would need to be refreshed yearly instead of bi-yearly like the iPhone. If the designs are nice enough, which is a given, they should instantly create a collector base for them. Quality and design are a must for this catagory as it would need to fill the lust factor as much as utility to be successful.

Android will face an uphill battle in this category as they already have a reputation as a disposable brand. They may may be able to fill the utility aspect but as we have seen they leave a lot to be desired in terms of quality and design. The brand is tainted in that regard.
 
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