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In terms of corporate / enterprise current airs seem to be a very common purchase for staff besides Lenovos, Dells etc. Perhaps this is a component issue and not an issue of dumping current stock. I don't think getting rid of existing stock would be too hard, especially if the price was lowered. It would become the bottom line like the A1278 Pro was from 2012-2016. Just interesting to see where they go with the product line.

It would be extremely foolish of Apple to put all their eggs in the "iPad Pro" basket as some individuals here seem to think they should. While iPads have their place for content consumption, and specific case scenarios in industries, they aren't a true computer replacement.
 
It’s likely that the rest of the lineup will be delayed too as that was always a possibility since there are more significant changes to the MBP lineup as well as other Mac refreshes.
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“Apple said to delay production of new MacBook Pro to restore old keyboard” - that was the headline I was hoping for.
This years model will actually have a revised keyboard mechanism. I don’t know why you are hoping to hear that when it was reported Apple were working on the keyboard a year ago for the 2018 models.
 
I still don't get it – why is it so hard for Apple to just create a great laptop? MBA is timeless, just upgrade the specs, the screen and tweak the design a little bit. What we need is a reliable machine. Nothing less, nothing more. Same as with Mac Pro. Just use the old silver case, upgrade the specs, create new amazing display a you are done. Professionals will buy it as soon as it hits the stores.
Sometimes humans, even groups of really smart humans, make things too complicated.
 
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That’s quite a straw man. The keyboard is actually one of the reasons I’m wary of replacing my 2014. (Another: still no 32 GB option!)

The current line-up has problems, but I think you can find reasonable replacements for the Air. They just happen to be pricier than before.

Um, not in Apple's ecosystem. All of their laptops other than the MBA use the new butterfly mechanism and some if not all have the battery glued to the bottom of the keyboard. The keyboard has a much higher rate of problems and failures than [edit: keyboards in] any past Apple product, it cannot be easily fixed, and the fix can be costly (~$700). It is simply a poor design (not a straw man).
 
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Yea that’s the plan now, if nothing until WWDC I’m going to wait and see what happens. If they don’t update the 12” MacBook and they later announce the 13” version in October i’ll get that I think (depending on if it’s the MacBook) after fridays visit to the Apple store and having some hands on time I’ve been convinced to get a MacBook either the 12” or a 13” version IF it makes an appearance and isn’t simply a cheaper Air.

I think my perfect set up will be upgrading my current 2012 iMac to a 5K iMac (not sure when iMac updates will happen or a redesign) and a 12” or 13” MacBook as my portable.
That's my setup: 2017 5K i5 iMac plus 2017 m3 MacBook. I like very light laptops.
 
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The new ; delays and hoping it works.
The disaster called Siri. iCloud doesn’t sync like it used to.
 
If Apple still cares about offering an affordable, competitive MacBook model with mass-market appeal, here's what they can do to replace the aging MacBook Air:
  • 3.5mm headphone port replaced with a second USB-C, USB-C to 3.5mm dongle included in the box.
  • Same resolution as the 13-inch MacBook Pro, 12-inch screen size. A 14-inch model with the same resolution as the 15-inch MacBook Pro can be made available for $200 more.
  • Keyboard with improved key travel.
  • 256 GB base storage.
  • More affordable USB-C dongles (the USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter should be priced no higher than $29, or even included in the box).
  • $999 starting price (or $899 with 128 GB base storage).
 
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Yes 6-core Coffee Lake for the 27" models, but most likely with 500X series Polaris GPUs, not Vega. Should be announced this quarter methinks. June 4th to be exact.
A few different sites were saying that 600 series would be based on Vega so aggressively spec'd and listed 2018 as ship date. But doubt they would come before autumn. I'm also curious about the Mac Pro. If the 5K iMac got a chip in the 9-10 tflops range and Coffee Lake I'd be really tempted to upgrade this autumn. If it comes out this summer then yeah, will probably just be a bump in processors, maybe reduction in SSD and RAM price. Otherwise I'll just wait and see what the Mac Pro brings in 2019. I'm wanting to move to upgrading my Mac more often. The one in my signature is a work machine. I currently have a 2012 rMBP that I don't use much now. Not sure if it's more cost effective to upgrade a 5K iMac every three years or upgrade a Mac Pro every 5-6 years, perhaps replacing a few parts along the way. Guess it depends what they price it at and how much these so-called "modular bits" end up costing.
 
This is a non-sensical argument.

that 3 year old computer at $1,000 SHOULDN'T cost $1000 today just because it's stilL "Good Enough". especially when technology constantly moves forward. So while Apple's MacBook air is still selling a 3 generation old CPU, with a 6 year old display technology might be "Good enough" for many users, it's price to performance and quality to what you get elsewhere is quite honestly, Pathetic.

Considering that as these things age, the products should be cheaper. not stay the same. As the MacBook Air is still using 3 year old generation of CPU's, the cost to manufacture (due to improvements of manufacturing)

Simply put, continuing to use 3 year old hardware, and keeping the prices high is really only a profit driven thing and has nothing to do with the actual quality of the devices. if you were to go buy a high end Windows laptop with the same components age in it, you'll find them for deep discount at this point.

So not only is Apple not discounting their old hardware to move it. They're not even updating it to more modern hardware.

Disagree. As I said here, how is the "performance and quality" so much better with newer chips than with 3 year old chips? Being offended by pricing without considering actual potential buyers is foolish.

The newest 15W/28W CPUs are barely better than their equivalents 5-6 years ago. For word, excel, powerpoint, audio creation and editing, photo manipulation, compiling code, graphic creation, internet browsing, they offer imperceptible improvement. So why clamor for them? Especially in a portable computer. It would be another thing if this thread was about iMacs, Mac Pros, or Mac Minis. But where the primary design consideration is portability and power efficiency - what has really improved in the last 5 years?

The only areas where there is improvement is video. Encoding and decoding is faster. Specifically, the hardware enabled HEVC encoding and decoding that allows for very fast 4k video processing. So if I worked in video editing or creation, I would want the newer chips. But everyone else... meh.

If someone has a 2008 Macbook, and they want to upgrade today, then who cares if the current Macbook Air has "3 year old hardware?" It still runs macOS and pretty much every macOS app better than anyone can reasonably hope for. It's still a brand new computer that fits their needs today.

If someone has a 2015 Macbook Air today, why would they even want to upgrade to a new Macbook Air? They should just keep their perfectly good and still very fast Macbook Air. Battery issues can be easily repaired, as I said.

Comparing to Windows is always silly. Yea, Windows PCs have always had more current hardware for lower prices. But they run a poorly designed and bloated OS with a registry system that gets perpetually slower as time goes on, typically used crappy fake brushed metal plastic chassis, have bad touchpads, and have crappy battery life and battery calibration. All of that is still true today. If you want a Windows PC with a good metal chassis, good battery life, good touchpad, and a non-bloated OS, then you'll be paying close to Apple prices anyway and spending time uninstalling the bloat.

And anyway, you will never have the full macOS experience on a Windows PC. I like that my laptop can answer iphone calls, shares copy and paste, and can wirelessly drop photo and files from laptop to iphone. Having a newer CPU isn't going to change any of that.
 
Why would they make a "retina MBA"? If they ever planned to keep that form factor they should already have updated it, but no, its only been specbumps for years. Unfortunately in Apples world there is no such thing as new and cheap. If you are lucky its one of them, but usually non. The current MBA is neither cheap or new. They are either going to price drop it $200 and/or make a totally new model (and increase price) with retina display, clickless touchpad, butterfly keyboard, usb-c ONLY and hopefully removing those ginormous bezels. Probably slap in a M-processor, make it fanless and call it a Macbook.
 
A few different sites were saying that 600 series would be based on Vega so aggressively spec'd and listed 2018 as ship date. But doubt they would come before autumn. I'm also curious about the Mac Pro. If the 5K iMac got a chip in the 9-10 tflops range and Coffee Lake I'd be really tempted to upgrade this autumn. If it comes out this summer then yeah, will probably just be a bump in processors, maybe reduction in SSD and RAM price. Otherwise I'll just wait and see what the Mac Pro brings in 2019. I'm wanting to move to upgrading my Mac more often. The one in my signature is a work machine. I currently have a 2012 rMBP that I don't use much now. Not sure if it's more cost effective to upgrade a 5K iMac every three years or upgrade a Mac Pro every 5-6 years, perhaps replacing a few parts along the way. Guess it depends what they price it at and how much these so-called "modular bits" end up costing.
Yes, Vega is 600 series, but AMD just announced a 500X series for 2018, which is just last year's 500 series rebranded. IOW, if you want anything mainstream any time soon, you're getting Polaris.
 
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Indeed. Some of us prefer factual statements here.
 
Quoted: "Some partners speculated that the postponement might be caused by problems with some key components such as processors."

. . . or maybe with keyboards?

Given the Apple of late I have a hard time seeing how a revamped MacBook Air will be an improvement. There would be no postponements if taking the surest course and leaving the MacBook Air as is and no more than taking less profit on it by lowering the price a few hundred. So what, then?

About the only thing I'm fairly sure of is that they will not retain the present iconic form, useful ports, good keyboard—AND then update the CPU and graphics while adding a retina screen, all the while decreasing the price. As well include a decent black bezel at last, even increase the price, and they have a customer here. But I'm not holding my breath.

No, I'm afraid the last best laptop (if not most powerful) Apple sells will be fondly remembered, all the more in contrast to what replaces it, if a MacBook Air in name only.
 
Makes perfect sense since cannon lake got delayed the other day. The new MacBook is certainly to use dual-core CannonLake CPUs

Too soon for Cannonlake (mass production bumped to 2019), Apple could have used the i5-8250U which has been available for months now, but Intel hasn't announced a successor to the i5-7260U. The Retina graphics equipped 15w Intel CPU is currently used in the 2016 and 2017 13" Retina non touch bar MacBook Pro but no Kaby Lake Refresh or Coffee Lake version has been announced to date - you'd expect the naming convention to follow.

The i5-8259U replaces the i5-7267U which is slightly worrying as it doesn't imply a straight replacement if you look at the model number even if the figures appear to confirm that it is.
 
Just give up Apple, you're a smart phone manufacturer, everything else is incoherent and half hearted. Mac Mini, Mac Pro, Macbook Pro and the Macbook Air, all either flawed or wildly out of date for ludicrous money.
 
I don't get it. There are rumors about new MacBook Air with Retina display and with lower price point.

The question is - who would buy MacBook (12") if there is cheaper product, with the same display quality, bigger screen, better performance and almost same weight? There is no way, that "next MacBook Air" will come with less number of ports than MacBook 12", so once again... Who would buy MacBook 12" if there is MacBook Air cost $300-500 less?

I think all we can get is better CPU and faster RAM + bigger SSD option. I'm not even sure if price can be lower than now, but there is just now way, they will add retina.

At what point in the rumor cycle was it said that this infamous "next MacBook Air" would co-exist with the existing MacBook? Seems like the logical and simplest would be that this "next MBA" would replace both the 12" and the existing Air. For all we know, the fabled, rumored "next MacBook Air" is going to be just the existing MacBook 12" with a new processor and a lower price.
 
At what point in the rumor cycle was it said that this infamous "next MacBook Air" would co-exist with the existing MacBook? Seems like the logical and simplest would be that this "next MBA" would replace both the 12" and the existing Air. For all we know, the fabled, rumored "next MacBook Air" is going to be just the existing MacBook 12" with a new processor and a lower price.
That would be a shame. A better solution would be to have both a MacBook 12" and a MacBook 13".

The MacBook 12" suits me much better.
 
I still don't get it – why is it so hard for Apple to just create a great laptop? MBA is timeless, just upgrade the specs, the screen and tweak the design a little bit. What we need is a reliable machine. Nothing less, nothing more. Same as with Mac Pro. Just use the old silver case, upgrade the specs, create new amazing display and you are done. Professionals will buy it as soon as it hits the stores.

I agree with this. My dream machine:
  • MBA chassis
  • >10 hours of battery life
  • Retina screen
  • Face or Touch ID (without the lame Touch Bar)
That's it, nothing fancy. This thing would fly off the shelves.
 
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