I love how some of you are getting mad there is a delay on a product that's never been officially announced and may not even exist. LOL
Statements like this are so misinformed and lacking in common sense. I tried exactly this very thing via an iPad Pro with keyboard cover. No can do as there are still so many times a full computer is completely necessary. Ever try webdesign on an iPad? Serious photo editing? Audio and video conversion on the fly? Nope didn’t think so because it can’t be done yet or anytime in the foreseeable future via iPad. Just bought a new MacBook Air to do these very things and it fills these needs perfectly, especially connected to my 27” external monitor. Love my iPad pro but in the end it’s still an over priced/glorified media consumption device imho.
I still don't get it – why is it so hard for Apple to just create a great laptop? MBA is timeless, just upgrade the specs, the screen and tweak the design a little bit. What we need is a reliable machine. Nothing less, nothing more. Same as with Mac Pro. Just use the old silver case, upgrade the specs, create new amazing display a you are done. Professionals will buy it as soon as it hits the stores.
How so? I just tried comparing the Ryzen 5 2500U with the Core i5 8550U, which as far as I can tell would be suitable models for the next MacBook Pro non-Touch Bar, and… they don't even seem to be in the same ballpark? What am I missing?
I still don't get it – why is it so hard for Apple to just create a great laptop? MBA is timeless, just upgrade the specs, the screen and tweak the design a little bit. What we need is a reliable machine. Nothing less, nothing more. Same as with Mac Pro. Just use the old silver case, upgrade the specs, create new amazing display a you are done. Professionals will buy it as soon as it hits the stores.
got a wrong link there. the 2500u you've got linked, actually has the benchmarks for the 2200u. the 2700u which is closer to the 8550u from intel shows closer to what I was saying.
I also not the biggest fan of Geekbench as it's a synthetic benchmark and doesn't really reflect real world perfectly.
Dell currently has a couple XPS and Inspiron AMD devices that are a couple hundred dollars cheaper than their intel counterparts.
Wait for WWDC regardless, and wait a bit longer if you can. OTOH, for the 12" MacBook, it is even possible it won't get updated until 2019.Well this puts me in a difficult position, I was either going to wait and get the 13” MacBook or a 12” MacBook after WWDC, but if neither are updated should i just get a current 12” Macbook?
That's not certain at all. Some of the experts are claiming Cannon Lake is dead in the water. Furthermore, any high volume 10 nm release won't be until 2019 anyway, with some believing the next Y series CPU might be Ice Lake. Personally I'm not sure either way. Will Intel release Cannon Lake Y in 2019 H1 and then Ice Lake Y in 2019 H2, or will they just scrap Cannon Lake Y altogether?Makes perfect sense since cannon lake got delayed the other day. The new MacBook is certainly to use dual-core CannonLake CPUs
The Core m3-7Y32 came out in 2017 Q2. My MacBook Core m3-7Y32 also came out in 2017 Q2.when was the last time apple released a product on time?
Sorry about that. Not on my Mac right now so can’t correct it.
Hard to provide a real-world benchmark when macOS doesn’t officially run on it. At best, you can approximate it by looking at how it runs Linux or Windows, but that says little about how Apple’s drivers would fare.
Right, but Dell still defaults to Intel. It’ll be interesting to see a vendor go all-in on AMD.
Yup. I think the biggest problem with the MacBook is the price (and the keyboard). in Canadian prices at least, the MacBook costs $1,729, which is insane price to justify
Part of the problem is that Apple laptops from 5 years ago are still perfectly fine for 99% of tasks. I read people on here clamoring for the newest cpus. Why? Setting aside professional video editing, where shaving off 15 seconds of render time, multiplied by a dozen videos per day, can actually add up to something significant over many years; how is the latest and greatest 15W/28W Core i7 better than the 15W/28W Core i7 from 2013?
If someone has a functioning undamaged 2013 Macbook Air or 2012 Macbook Pro with Core i7, 8GB ram, PCIe SSD, and USB 3.0, why would they spend $1-3k to get a new computer today? Other than screen quality and being able to natively decode HEVC 4k, I don't see enough worthwhile improvements. This includes Windows PCs.
Back in 2013, if I was asked that about a top of the line computer from 2008, I would have given a dozen solid reasons to upgrade. Back then, 5 years old meant pretty out of date. Today, 5 years old doesn't mean that anymore.
If you're talking about Pros, we're actually talking about going from dual-core to quad core (13"). That's pretty friggin' huge deal actually.Part of the problem is that Apple laptops from 5 years ago are still perfectly fine for 99% of tasks. I read people on here clamoring for the newest cpus. Why? Setting aside professional video editing, where shaving off 15 seconds of render time, multiplied by a dozen videos per day, can actually add up to something significant over many years; how is the latest and greatest 15W/28W Core i7 better than the 15W/28W Core i7 from 2013?
Yes 6-core Coffee Lake for the 27" models, but most likely with 500X series Polaris GPUs, not Vega. Should be announced this quarter methinks. June 4th to be exact.I'm more interested in the 5K iMac update. Is that coming this summer? I'm curious how they'll handle updating that with the iMac Pro around. The next update should have Coffee Lake 6-core chips, right? And I read something recently about Radeon 600 series GPUs launching later this year, based on Vega, so they should be pretty fast. But would Apple let the 5K iMac push up against the base model Mac Pro in terms of performance before it is able to be updated?
Part of the problem is that Apple laptops from 5 years ago are still perfectly fine for 99% of tasks. I read people on here clamoring for the newest cpus. Why? Setting aside professional video editing, where shaving off 15 seconds of render time, multiplied by a dozen videos per day, can actually add up to something significant over many years; how is the latest and greatest 15W/28W Core i7 better than the 15W/28W Core i7 from 2013?
If someone has a functioning undamaged 2013 Macbook Air or 2012 Macbook Pro with Core i7, 8GB ram, PCIe SSD, and USB 3.0, why would they spend $1-3k to get a new computer today? Other than screen quality and being able to natively decode HEVC 4k, I don't see enough worthwhile improvements. This includes Windows PCs.
Back in 2013, if I was asked that about a top of the line computer from 2008, I would have given a dozen solid reasons to upgrade. Back then, 5 years old meant pretty out of date. Today, 5 years old doesn't mean that anymore.
They haven't announced this product, so it's neither early nor late.when was the last time apple released a product on time?
I still don't get it – why is it so hard for Apple to just create a great laptop? MBA is timeless, just upgrade the specs, the screen and tweak the design a little bit. What we need is a reliable machine. Nothing less, nothing more. Same as with Mac Pro. Just use the old silver case, upgrade the specs, create new amazing display a you are done. Professionals will buy it as soon as it hits the stores.
Its more the fact after 5 years the machines battery is probably ruined its been well used and people are ready for a new product.
I completely agree but there is a point to where a new machine makes sense, no warranty and something new and the cost to replace the battery to get it working again is probably as much as the machine is worth. Probably better off putting it toward a newer machine.
The problem isn't that their bad or anything. It's just that Apple is still charging premium price on these devices with old hardware. When they're still selling a MacBookAir at the same price 3 years after it's still using a 3 year old components, there's something wrong there
Exactly. The MBA is a beloved entry level everyday workhorse laptop. All Apple has to do is make some necessary spec improvements and update the display. This update shouldn’t sit on Jonny’s workbench for years while he admires different color schemes and try’s to shave a millimeter of thickness from the frame......only to booger-up the keyboard.
Wait for WWDC regardless, and wait a bit longer if you can. OTOH, for the 12" MacBook, it is even possible it won't get updated until 2019.
Yea, but a new OEM or OEM-quality battery costs about $100. I've changed the battery in an Air - it's quite easy actually. But even if most people don't want to do it themselves, any of those repair shops at any mall will do it for $20 plus cost of battery.
I get that after 800 cycles, people want something new. But when there is nothing new that is worthwhile, why get something new? $100-$150 for a new battery and a cleaning vs $1000-$3000 for a new laptop that is barely better. That should be a no-brainer.
If you bought that computer 3 years ago, and it's still basically the same computer for sale today, why would you buy it again?
I agree that in theory these things should get cheaper over time. But then again, if the Air was worth $1000 in 2015, and it's still just as capable and just as good today, why should they charge less for it? And if you have a 2015 Air, what does it matter since you have zero incentive to upgrade anyway?