That's the great thing about Tesla, there isn't any service. Just drive it for years and years. Recommended maintenance on the 3 is just tire rotations and coolant replacement every 5 years or so.
How about your Kia?
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That's the great thing about Tesla, there isn't any service. Just drive it for years and years. Recommended maintenance on the 3 is just tire rotations and coolant replacement every 5 years or so.
How about your Kia?
Well, that's IMO a bit optimistic.
Though, at least as far as the current models go, they seem to be rather easy to fix - at least compared to the usual German manufacturers, which lately seem to have take a page from Apple's design-book on repairability...
The problem is of course not really in service, but in spare-parts. If Tesla would cease operations, it would be very difficult to source these.
They'd become the Saab of electric vehicles...
I guess the same could be said of any manufacturer, like Apple. Once they go out, you can't get parts. Bummer.
Yes. But some of those manufacturers (like Volkswagen) are actually State-backed (in that the State of Lower-Saxony owns a sizable portion of the company). Tesla doesn't have that privilege.
You do have a point. I'd call it a privilege and a baggage at the same time.
Though, of course, the sheer size of VAG makes it extremely difficult to turn around, similar to an oil-tanker....
They're trying, now, to go full electric. You can pre-order the ID.3 now - but it's unclear when it will ship in volume (battery supply issues...).
And yet they have comparable cost of ownership to similarly priced luxury cars, generally reported with similar maintenance costs. ICE engines are generally pretty reliable these days, though admittedly require more routine service and convenience is a factor.
As I’m sure you know, Tesla recently reduced their service schedule which I hope was done because their cars don’t actually need it (and will have no affect on longevity) rather than trying to cut costs and free up their techs.
But let’s not forget aside from the engine and transmission, a Tesla is still a car. It has a suspension, steering system, braking system (granted with a longer lifecycle, but with more expensive components), tires, a cooling system, HVAC equipment, electronics galore. Most Tesla owners I know, even the most satisfied admit the reliability is a problem. And the wait times at the dealer are unacceptably long.
I’d argue most cars problems these days come down to systems beyond the engine/transmission- electronics, wear and tear parts (wheel bearings, alternators, pumps, etc). It’s not like engines are blowing up. There’s some notoriously bad transmissions in the long run, but usually if you do your homework you can avoid them. My GF’s dad’s 2016 Model S has already had a drive unit replaced with <30,000 miles.
I have a hard time believing Teslas see that much savings in overall operating costs considering the cost to insure them at this point in time. That’s entirely Tesla’s fault too- limiting their repairs to their own providers, having astronomical parts costs, no aftermarket parts, having overwhelmed service centers, etc. On top of that, once the warranty runs up it’s not like there’s a lot of options other than using Tesla dealers, especially when Tesla won’t sell diagnostic equipment or service manuals and limits parts.
In theory EV’s should be cheaper and require less maintenance, however I think that point is currently over exaggerated. I don’t think that’s the real reason most people actually buy Teslas. In concept EV’s have a lot to offer us. Tesla has made some critically bad decisions that don’t make me believe they will overtake the car industry and I find their existence based on their current vision as - major automaker highly questionable.
Worst reasonable scenario they research/sell/license batteries, drive systems, autopilot technology, charging infrastructure, etc and stop making cars directly.
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Except Apple isn’t in the tight financial situation Tesla is in. If people question the viability of company that’s obviously problematic for sales, especially considering a car the #2 most expensive purchase most people make in life.
The one thing Tesla has figured out is OTA updates. The reason moderns cars are so often in the shop is that they need some electronics problem fixed that requires a firmware-update (of which modern cars like a Mercedes E-Class have upwards of two dozen different ones, for each sub-system), which can only be applied at the dealer.
Just got my electric bill, only went up around $90 for the month.
Same month of driving my Honda would have been around $260.
And no maintenance! Gonna schedule my tire rotation in a few months.
No need to haul around all those chemicals and complexity. ICE cars suck.
Everyone needs one. Elon's changing the world!
What is your insurance bill?
What’s inside batteries? Chemicals
Insurance is the same as my Honda, actually went down around $10/mo
Batteries have a 120k mile warranty. They're fully recyclable and extremely valuable to be recycled.
Now about your Kia, how's those fumes when you fill your gas tank? Why have the exhaust come out the back? Is it that dangerous? How about that catalytic converter, what's that made of? Why all those hoses and gaskets? Explosion locomotion isn't particularly efficient.
Enjoy driving your bucket of chemicals and complexity. Have fun maintaining that rube goldberg locomotion abomination. I'll stay with what i've got. It's so freaking fun blasting off 0-60 in around 4 seconds and no gears. No turbo. No platinum spark plugs. Smooth as silk. Fun, clean, efficient. It's the future.