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Apple Said to Ship New 'Ultra-Thin' 13" and 15" MacBooks by June-July
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"Pro" is just a marketing term. Are you going to refuse to buy a new iPad Pro for personal use because it's called 'Pro' now instead of 'Air'?
The current recall thing is ATI chips. In my MacBook Pro 17" early 2011 the chip just recently went bad. That covers that generation and the retina one that followed I think is also showing problems, but thats Nvidia.
MacPro's are starting to have their cards fail now as well I have read.
Anyway even these mobile chips are not designed to run how Apple uses them, with substandard thermal paste and fans which are programmed to come on rather late into the game. That and a total lack of airflow compared to a lot of other competitors.
Its also not the solder balls they use to mount the chips to the boards, though those do go back and crack as well. Thats what nearly killed the xbox 360. Its the actual chips, the heating & cooling basically kills them from the inside and not the board connections.
Thanks I was trying to keep it as thin as possible, clearly it was too thin.Fixed for accuracy
The constant heating and then fast 5000rpm cooling causes the chips to go bad from the inside, doesn't matter what manufacturer.
My 17" laptop is currently running at 65 C, if pushed it will hit 80 C before the fans decide its cooling time.
A 980Ti I own never goes above 60 C even when pushed, the i7 in that computer rarely goes above 35 C when pushed.
There is a world of difference between cooling a chip to allow you to do more and running chips near their max temperatures so your machines can be a little thinner and a little quieter under normal operation.
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My 2011 17" MBP lasted until 2016 so I just about got those 5 years. Luckily it was heat related design fault so they replaced the logic board for free.
Exactly. Macbook Pros got thin enough when they dropped the DVD drive. There's no need to go thinner.
The 13" rMBP is 0.71" thin and is less than 3.5 lbs. The 15" rMBP is the same thinness and less than 4.5 lbs. Neither of those can be described "thick" or "heavy"
And both of those are available with Core i5 or Core i7 processors... powerful processors and plenty of RAM.
The 12" Macbook would be considered an ultraportable... but that's why it is a separate product line.
There's no need to infect the Macbook PRO line with the Macbook's thinness and therefore gimped hardware.
While some customers were hopeful that Apple would release new Macs at its "Let Us Loop You In" media event yesterday, the product announcements were focused on the new 4-inch iPhone SE, 9.7-inch iPad Pro, and additional Apple Watch bands.
But those waiting patiently for a Mac refresh may not have much longer to wait, as DigiTimes today reported that Apple will begin shipping new "ultra-thin" 13-inch and 15-inch MacBooks at the end of the second quarter.
The second calendar quarter ends on June 30, meaning that new Macs could feasibly be introduced by WWDC 2016, which will likely take place between June 13-17 based on scheduling information available from the Moscone Center.
The new MacBooks will allegedly "share a design similar to the existing 12-inch MacBook" and be "thinner than [the] existing MacBook Air," which makes it difficult to infer which MacBook lineup the report is referring to.
DigiTimes has a mixed track record at reporting on Apple's upcoming product plans, but its report corroborates a previous rumor claiming Apple is preparing thinner 13" and 15" MacBook Airs with "fully redesigned" internal components. That report said the notebooks would be ready by the third quarter, which corresponds to a July-September timeframe -- possibly shortly after a WWDC announcement.
Apple currently offers the MacBook Air in 11" and 13" sizes, and it has never released a 15" MacBook Air. In fact, many have assumed the MacBook Air will be discontinued at some point as declining costs allow the MacBook to become Apple's mainstream notebook offering. A redesigned MacBook Air, possibly with a long-awaited Retina display, could be considered a bit of a surprise.
The current MacBook Pro perhaps better corresponds with the rumored 13" and 15" sizes, but whether Apple is able to fit pro-level hardware in an "ultra-thin" design similar to the lower-spec 12-inch MacBook remains to be seen. There is also the possibility that the new 13" and 15" notebooks will be MacBooks, but the notion seems questionable unless Apple discontinues the year-old 12" model.
Apple's refreshed Mac lineup is expected to feature Intel's faster Skylake processors and Thunderbolt 3 with USB-C, while the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro are also deserving candidates for an overall redesign.
Apple last refreshed the 13-inch MacBook Pro in March 2015, while the 15-inch model was updated in May. For this reason, the 13-inch model is classified as Early 2015, and the 15-inch model is Mid 2015. Both notebooks received Force Touch trackpads, faster flash storage, longer battery life, and improved graphics.
The Early 2015 13-inch MacBook Pro is based on Intel's last-generation Broadwell chip architecture, while the 15-inch model still has older Haswell architecture. Over the past year, Intel has announced Skylake chips appropriate for the 13-inch MacBook Pro, 15-inch MacBook Pro, 12-inch MacBook, and MacBook Airs.
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Doesn't Make any sense for Apple to refresh the MBP line before they roll out the Apple Juicer.
You've misunderstood my post and should read the original, I think, looking at your response - its out of context.
And yes, the Pro in iPad Pro is just marketing....
Very smart indeed. Honestly, 2012 update-able mbp were the best. What made the new one crappy anyway? Or what did he say at least?
I just wish they would give the 13" MBP quad core for heaven's sake. It's the perfect size, but so underpowered.
This is such a great point. My kids would love to have this new iPad because it is the Pro model and uses a pencil and have more speakers.
Sometimes "we" think "we" are the target market for all of Apples products when "we" represent less than 1% of the market share for Apple. "we" just means any of us here. No regular iPad buyer is going to think the chip isn't the right one or it now should have 4Gig instead of 2Gig.
When the iPad Pro came out many were whining that it was great but it was too big or too expensive. Now the smaller one comes out and it isn't enough. Maybe we won't buy, but I think this is a nice upgrade for Apple at a fair price.
The issues in the early 2011 Macbook Pros was the unleaded solder used, and how it was applied, IRC. My 2011 Macbook Pro also had to be fixed due to the same issue and is still going.. 5 years old.
Apple had special replacement program due to the issue - there were a lot of 2011 machines affected, as you may be aware.
The thread of this is still going strong on Apple Discussions!
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4766577?start=4005&tstart=0
Apple had special replacement program due to the issue - there were a lot of 2011 machines affected, as you may be aware.
The thread of this is still going strong on Apple Discussions!
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4766577?start=4005&tstart=0
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Please tell me what the obsession with a thin computer is? Are they not send enough now? I'd rather Apple spend the resources on turnaround of the latest technologies into their products versus designing a new chassis and trying to get everything to fit.
Yes I can understand smaller and lighter, by the way how come very little mention of the 11 inch MacBook? What I want is a small notebook/iPad with that real operating system that I can take with me everywhere like the SufaceBook.
The rest of the industry is going towards convertible notebooks why is an apple?
Please enlighten me....thanks!
Yes I can understand smaller and lighter, by the way how come very little mention of the 11 inch MacBook? What I want is a small notebook/iPad with that real operating system that I can take with me everywhere like the SufaceBook.
The rest of the industry is going towards convertible notebooks why is an apple?
Please enlighten me....thanks!
Apple! Stop calling it a 'Pro' when it isn't.
Being able to open Excel and Pages at the same time doesn't make it Pro.
Pro = Workstation. This is neither.
Being able to open Excel and Pages at the same time doesn't make it Pro.
Pro = Workstation. This is neither.
People have mentioned the XPS 15. Another option for switchers is the Razer Blade. So tempting...
Glad news is finally coming out. Now the big question is what computer will I actually get... For reference I run a publishing company (I think that's a perfectly pro job) which means I do a lot of book editing, crunching numbers and graphics and formatting. I'm currently doing this all from an upgraded 15' 2009 MB. 8 Gigs of ram, 256 SSD, and honestly for most things this almost 7 year old computer feels pretty modern. However, there are two things that I think it lacks in, and why I'm looking forward to an upgrade. Obviously a retina screen will be the big upgrade, that and more than 8 gigs (I only notice a slow down when I run photoshop or pixelmator these days, it's annoying but not need to upgrade this second annoying).
The reason I want to wait for the redesign is simply I'm curious if they make the bezels ultra thin. Getting either a 14inch in a smaller form factor or a 16 inch in the same form factor I'm so used to sounds awesome... and something that's in all slate grey or a black to match my office's black and white theme is also a bonus.
I know that people in general like to complain on this site, but I'm just curious, I know plenty of pros, and at this point what of your jobs is so demanding on the tech side that having the absolute fastest chip that (will be not the fastest chip in 6 months) is so vital? I know plenty of video editors that have two or three year old mac pros that are doing just fine. I'm not hating, just curious. I'm not saying that Apple is perfect, but as a creative type, I still stand with them happily for my tech needs.
The reason I want to wait for the redesign is simply I'm curious if they make the bezels ultra thin. Getting either a 14inch in a smaller form factor or a 16 inch in the same form factor I'm so used to sounds awesome... and something that's in all slate grey or a black to match my office's black and white theme is also a bonus.
I know that people in general like to complain on this site, but I'm just curious, I know plenty of pros, and at this point what of your jobs is so demanding on the tech side that having the absolute fastest chip that (will be not the fastest chip in 6 months) is so vital? I know plenty of video editors that have two or three year old mac pros that are doing just fine. I'm not hating, just curious. I'm not saying that Apple is perfect, but as a creative type, I still stand with them happily for my tech needs.
Unfortunately, the answer these days is increasingly "Yes".
(and it may be hidden in a thermal design envelope limitation, so that it posts good Specs, but can't sustain that workload thermally)
Sorry, but the Magic 8-Ball says ... "Johnny Ive doesn't believe in utility: form has become more important than function". :-(
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If you want ports/compatibility/expandability, Macs aren't for you.
MBPs are serious computers for serious people who don't have time for "tinkering". Hacking/upgrading/modding is for amateurs. Leave the hardware design to the professionals in Cupertino. People who don't appreciate this (and think they know better than top Apple engineers) don't understand the Apple philosophy and are wasting their money buying Apple. They should try Dell or similar. But even Dell are finding out that having serviceability and compatibility as a product feature brings a about whole set of other problems.
MBPs are serious computers for serious people who don't have time for "tinkering". Hacking/upgrading/modding is for amateurs. Leave the hardware design to the professionals in Cupertino. People who don't appreciate this (and think they know better than top Apple engineers) don't understand the Apple philosophy and are wasting their money buying Apple. They should try Dell or similar. But even Dell are finding out that having serviceability and compatibility as a product feature brings a about whole set of other problems.
Personally, I certainly do agree - which is why I am a bit skeptical towards the Retina MacBook in its current state.
...However, rumors claim that the Retina MacBook is the best selling Apple laptop right now. Which would suggest the exact opposite of what you're saying. Surprising, I know. The MacBook Air should be thin enough, and comes with a much better keyboard and way better battery life, I agree.
I don't know the credibility of the sales numbers, seeing as Apple do not reveal sales figures for each product. Yes, you could also argue that the rMB is a brand new product, so is expected to see better sales than the now very old fashioned MBA, at least initially.
Are they even called 'switchers' these days? Do they need that branding when that very example of the XPS15 is years ahead and half the price? $NZ5,859 for the top 15" MBP; $3,898 for the XPS15 with twice the RAM, a much newer CPU & GPU, touchscreen, higher resolution, etc. so I figure my "half" is probably about right
.Wow, could you be any more of an a$$hat? This reeks of being an egotistical audiophile, yet you make some very incorrect, possibly asinine statements.
First, not only audio professionals use the Macbook Pro. Who the hell cares what audio professionals do anyway? A great number of people have headphones with the 3.5mm jack and wouldn't relish the idea of having to buy a new set just because audio professionals might use a different connection standard.
Second, you're really reducing everyone that uses a 3.5mm jack to listening to Beyonce and owning cheap headphones? Perhaps you didn't know this, but there's a wide range of headphones, some very good, that use the 3.5mm jack. And I'm certainly not aware of any correlation between that jack size and being forced to listen or an obsession with listening to Beyonce. I don't even know what you're trying to prove with that statement.
Third, you come off as caring about audio quality and talking about what audio professionals do, then you finish off with talking about the next pair of earpods/airpods that Apple is going to bundle with their devices. As if those are high quality listening devices that no one will ever want to upgrade from or continue using their current pair. Are you kidding me? Who the heck cares what Apple is bundling with their phones.
In many of your other responses, you're ignoring that the Macbook Pro is a favorite of students and professors, many of whom would appreciate the continued presence of ports and the 3.5mm jack. They're not just bought by audio professionals.