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uh...I can get 400GB data (with unlimited from 2am to 2pm) at 25Mbps on DSL for the same price that I can get 5GB of LTE Data here in Canada. You must be on a grandfathered AT&T unlimited plan?

Do you know how much of your 400 GB of data you actually use, though?

Most users come nowhere near the amount that their ISP is selling them.

I've checked. I use about 30 GB of data each month at my house. Comcast is charging me $50 for 500 GB of data. Meanwhile, I'm getting 6 GB of data from AT&T. It would only cost me $40 to boost it to 50 GB/month - more than what I actually use with Comcast + what I'm getting with AT&T right now, and it would all be faster and with a lower ping.

I tried tethering for a week, but it was less than convenient, as I said before.

I've heard that cellular modems exist, but I've never found one that I was confident would work with my wifi router.
 
Don't do this to me, Apple. Please. If you really make that thin of a MacBook Pro in a 15" form with Skylake, I will throw all of my money at you. Please include some USB 3.1 and C ports, keep the MagSafe, keep the battery life, force touch, and I will be satisfied with this year with Apple.


EDIT: And most of all, no butterfly keyboard

So you want ultra thin, but you don't want the superior keyboard made so that you can actually have an ultra thin body...ok.
 
Please Please change the lineup.

12" Macbook Air (existing macbook, rebranded) - fanless, ultralow voltage
14" Macbook (slimmer, because you know its apple and roughly the same size as the current 13" less bezel)
16" Macbook Pro (Again, slimmer but 16" screen fitted into roughly the size of the current 15", quad core with 2 models, one with high end iris pro and another with dedicated graphics.)

IMO this would be the sweetest lineup.

Same thing for all the lines,

iPad Air: iPad mini turns into iPad Air...yea i know that be confusing and it won't happen.
iPad
iPad Pro 9.7" and the bigger model

iPhone SE (Stupid Name) Stick with Air
iPhone
iPhone Pro (Change the name from plus to pro)

Mac Mini
iMac
Mac Pro

Again, I know none of this will happen, but I think at least for the laptops should go this way.
 
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Apple cannot make pro level laptops anymore. Their fetish with ever thinner cases means they are using substandard components and heat profiles guaranteed to destroy the chipsets after a couple of years.

Pretty much pro laptop made by Apple in the past 5 years have all had heat related failures
I received some bad vibes yesterday when they mocked the amount of "5+ years old computers" in use today.
If your computer lasts that long and serves you well, damn you made a great investment!

This company is sending so many "please give me your money" signals it's terrifying.
I'd rather they incentivize me to upgrade NATURALLY instead of throwing bricks my way and telling me to pony up the cash.
And by throwing bricks at me I also mean repairability, upgradability and up-to-snuff tech.
If I were to buy a Mac Pro today I'd get the same tech as if I bought it TWO YEARS ago.

And don't get me started on HDDs...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
This has to be said.

MacRumors users do not represent the wants and needs of the general public.

I can't stress this enough. People always complain about stuff becoming thinner and lighter. Well guess what, the typical Apple customer...

* Doesn't edit 4K video in Final Cut.
* Doesn't use his or her MacBook to play the latest, most demanding games in Windows.
* Doesn't perform advanced calculations or heavy 3D rendering
* Doesn't need to stare into their laptop display more than 10 hours a day w/o charging.

Most people don't need more power or battery life, at the expense of a thicker computer. I assume most people hardly use more than 10 per cent of the processing power of a modern computer. There is basically nothing the average Joe couldn't get done by using a 2013 or later MacBook Air or Pro. These computers have way more power and battery life than most people really need. Nowadays, even eight year old 2008 MacBook Pro's are able to use the latest operating system, so additional performance is hardly reason enough to upgrade for most people.

You know what will make people upgrade?

* Lighter laptops, which are easier to bring around
* Thinner laptops, which are better looking and easier to bring anywhere.
* New designs, possibly new colors.
* New features (I'm not talking about new ports which will hardly be used, I'm talking about for example Retina Displays, which is the one thing you're using every single second on a laptop computer.

Feels like many people are hoping for a THICKER MacBook Pro, with Quad-Core i7 Thislake or Thatlake, even Xeon processors, dedicated 4GB VRAM GPU, liquid cooling and 64GB RAM, and this or that.

Well, I'm sorry I can't see it happening. Why do you think the 17" MBP was removed from the lineup? It being top-of-the-line simply made it expensive, so it didn't cater to a large enough market to warrant it's existence. It was probably too big and heavy as well, for most people. Heck, hardly the Mac Pro seems to be selling (although maybe a bad example seeing as it hasn't been upgraded in a long while).

It should be obvious, Apple is no longer catering to the Pro market, they are aiming for marketshare.

As long as current performance and battery life is maintained, while making the computer thinner and lighter with new features, I for one will be interested.
 
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Do you know how much of your 400 GB of data you actually use, though?

Most users come nowhere near the amount that their ISP is selling them.

I've checked. I use about 30 GB of data each month at my house.

Crikey really? I've only got a 3mb connection and i'm using that much almost every 2 days. If I had a the fast 300mb connection they're hoping to provider us with a fibre pipe by end of the summer i'll be taking full advantage of back blaze and home hosting everything and i'll be pushing terrabytes of data daily!
 
I hope they get rid of the ugly bezel and by that make the actual screen size larger without increasing the footprint.
Touch ID would be nice but I doubt it.
Please keep the ports. I don't want to buy $100 worth of adapters just to be able to give a presentation or connect a USB stick or a SD card........
 
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if you dont need a thin and light laptop, go get an alienware 18"

If portability isn't an issue, why not get a 27" iMac instead? Some people seem to insist on having a desktop computer in a laptop form factor. I don't see the point.
 
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I hope they get rid of the ugly bezel and by that make the actual screen size larger without increasing the footprint.
Touch ID would be nice but I doubt it.
Please keep the ports. I don't want to buy $100 worth of adapters just to be able to give a presentation or connect a USB stick or a SD card........

I think the bezel looks fine on the MacBooks and Pros. It's just ugly on the Airs.
 
Ultra-thin. So we drop ethernet, USB ports, and everything else useful like the current MacBooks? How does anyone own a computer with no damn USB port?
Not nitpicking, but ethernet ports hasn't existed on the rMBP since 2012, when it was first introduced.
 
This is the first of many steps in Apples evolution of eventually coming out with a surface pro like device. Apple never rushes these things. An ultra thin MacBook Pro is the first step. I'm all for it as long as they don't dumb down the pro and sacrifice pro features for thinness.
 
First, what is a "higher than normal logic board failure" for Macbooks? Macbook Airs, for example, have been super reliable work-horses by most statistics.​

I was not referring to the lower priced Airs but to the top of the line Pros, which are the most expensive by far.

Third, a laptop that lasts 4-5 years reliably is still pretty darn good.​

I would never pay close to $3000 for a laptop I expected to be useless in 4-5 years, let alone continue to do so every several years.
 
It should be obvious, Apple is no longer catering to the Pro market, they are aiming for marketshare.

If Pro people aren't buying their Pro machine(s), it's a self-fulfilling prophecy on Apple's end. If Apple invested more enough time and attention into it as they used to, made a Mac Pro that didn't require a gazillion thunderbolt cables to be useful and is actually updated, had graphics cards that weren't terrible, had graphics drivers that weren't terrible, etc. it's their own fault. They could "aim for marketshare" and have a healthy Pro lineup if they wanted to.

I think you are also mischaracterizing what some people on here would like. No, Apple is never going to make a laptop with a massive GPU and an hour of battery life, but they can do better spec-wise if they didn't always insist on thinness. They already have an Air and MBP lineup; they should differentiate them. Once the MBA goes retina, they are going to have to somehow, unless they consolidate the lineup.
 
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Note to Apple, we don't need thinner MBPs. We need performance and ports. If we want thin we will get Airs or iPad Pros. Please, please Apple grace us with a real, powerful, portable laptop computer again.

Agreed, current size is perfect, doesn't need to be thinner. Faster, descent GPU and a not-too-crazy price would be at the top of my list.
 
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This has to be said.

MacRumors users do not represent the wants and needs of the general public.

I can't stress this enough. People always complain about stuff becoming thinner and lighter. Well guess what, the typical Apple customer...

* Doesn't edit 4K video in Final Cut.
* Doesn't use his or her MacBook to play the latest, most demanding games in Windows.
* Doesn't perform advanced calculations or heavy 3D rendering
* Doesn't need to stare into their laptop display more than 10 hours a day w/o charging.

Most people don't need more power or battery life, at the expense of a thicker computer. I assume most people hardly use more than 10 per cent of the processing power of a modern computer. There is basically nothing the average Joe couldn't get done by using a 2013 or later MacBook Air or Pro. These computers have way more power and battery life than most people really need. Nowadays, even eight year old 2008 MacBook Pro's are able to use the latest operating system, so additional performance is hardly reason enough to upgrade for most people.

You know what will make people upgrade?

* Lighter laptops, which are easier to bring around
* Thinner laptops, which are better looking and easier to bring anywhere.
* New designs, possibly new colors.
* New features (I'm not talking about new ports which will hardly be used, I'm talking about for example Retina Displays, which is the one thing you're using every single second on a laptop computer.

Feels like many people are hoping for a THICKER MacBook Pro, with Quad-Core i7 Thislake or Thatlake, even Xeon processors, dedicated 4GB VRAM GPU, liquid cooling and 64GB RAM, and this or that.

Well, I'm sorry I can't see it happening. Why do you think the 17" MBP was removed from the lineup? It being top-of-the-line simply made it expensive, so it didn't cater to a large enough market to warrant it's existence. It was probably too big and heavy as well, for most people. Heck, hardly the Mac Pro seems to be selling (although maybe a bad example seeing as it hasn't been upgraded in a long while).

It should be obvious, Apple is no longer catering to the Pro market, they are aiming for marketshare.

As long as current performance and battery life is maintained, while making the computer thinner and lighter with new features, I for one will be interested.

If that's your criteria for a computer get a super-light $200 chromebook that does email, word processing and meets the needs of what you call "an average joe". If I pay top dollar for a computer I expect a computer that performs well in a variety of areas, not a gimmicky thin piece of aluminum with no ports that can do less than an old macbook.
 
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