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The issues in the early 2011 Macbook Pros was the unleaded solder used, and how it was applied, IRC. My 2011 Macbook Pro also had to be fixed due to the same issue and is still going.. 5 years old.

Apple had special replacement program due to the issue - there were a lot of 2011 machines affected, as you may be aware.

The thread of this is still going strong on Apple Discussions!
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4766577?start=4005&tstart=0

That does happen but it is a lot worse than that it is in the chip / substrate rather than the connection between the chip and logic board as these people / those that offer repairs believe.

"The problem is that the die gets hot, and heats the substrate secondarily. The silicon on the die has one rate of thermal expansion, the substrate has another, basically they get bigger at different rates. To complicate things further, remember the uneven and changing heating bit above? Parts of the die heat up and expand differently from other parts of the die. This changes quite quickly while things are in use."
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1004378/why-nvidia-chips-defective

or listen to this guy who does it for a job

Essentially the bumps that are connected to the underside of the die ( in Nvidia's case these were high lead content ) and connects to different parts of the exposed underside of the die go bad from being constantly stressed.

Both ATI and Nvidia have discovered, to a lot of expense, that it is impossible to engineer a mobile GPU that runs hot and also has a decent life span.
 
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Wow, could you be any more of an a$$hat? This reeks of being an egotistical audiophile, yet you make some very incorrect, possibly asinine statements.

First, not only audio professionals use the Macbook Pro. Who the hell cares what audio professionals do anyway? A great number of people have headphones with the 3.5mm jack and wouldn't relish the idea of having to buy a new set just because audio professionals might use a different connection standard.

One interesting point from all that is that it would give Apple the opportunity to sell another adaptor at great expense! They love doing that, I wonder why the delay!
 
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Argh! Apple causing me to freezing. I am planning on giving my daughter my macbook in the next few weeks for a school project she is starting in mid to late April.

So I was hoping that a new 13 macbook pro would be available yesterday. But if I have to wait until the 3rd quarter, that is a long time to be without a laptop.

Do I buy a 13 rMBP pro today? I might as well get a refurbed one. Or wait and go risk the potential of going without a laptop for a few months.

I do have Windows desktops I can use, but no laptops for on the road.
 
I really want Apple to offer a laptop with an LTE connection.

It seems bizarre to me that the iPad has had cellular antennas from the beginning, 6 years ago now, but Apple has never given that to their laptops, even as an optional add-on, throughout the many revisions that they've had to their laptop line over the years.

If Apple put cellular connections in their computers, I could just cut Comcast entirely. AT&T's LTE is faster and cheaper than my Comcast broadband.

Yes, Apple needs to combine the iPad and notebook like other companies...make a truly mobile device with a touch screen, pencil and a real operating system!
 
I've never needed a new laptop more than I do now... I've held out with the 2008 white MacBook for so long (well, since 2008), but it's pretty much unusable for many things now. SO CLOSE.

These updates aren't really helpful, but it does make me more excited and happy about their tentative release.
 
I think its safe to assume Apple is just out of touch on what the Pro market wants. I just hope they do go on messing up the MBP line and making it so much like a MacBook with one port, and the garbage thing they call a keyboard. No person who does real work for an extensive amount of time, such as a developer, programmer, engineer, would ever say that is the kind of keyboard they like.
 
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Hope they don't have the disgusting MacBook keyboard
I bought an Air 80% because of that keyboard. It felt like I was banging my fingers on the desk and half of key presses were not registered. I know that it's like blue cheese, you have to work hard on learning how to enjoy it, but – same as with blue cheese – I prefer to buy a computer I enjoy already. (And which cost me 350 euro less.)
 
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First spy shot! Comes also in rose gold.
 
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I think Apple could go to a

13" rMB
15" rMB

and get rid of all the other noise. Sell people some ports then they could focus their parts and engineering on just a few devices rather than trying to maintain all those different lines of laptops.
 
Apple is killing me with their delay. I want a mac for my next computer, but at the same time, the Dell XPS 15 is a gorgeous and well-built computer available today for insane specs.

15" 4K touch display
Aluminum and Carbon Fiber body (it is awesome to hold)
Skylake CPUs w/ nVidia discrete grpahics
Thunderbolt 3 via USB C
Upgradable memory up to 32GB

etc...

The hardware is just incredible. Apple should be selling this type of machine now.

but they won't! and if they come close, they'll still retain those huge bezels with incremental updates and definitely no 4k... at least not this year.

I agree that Dell XPS 13 and 15 are gorgeous! I don't think anyone can deny it.

...and for the love of God, leave my 3.5mm jack alone.
 
Sure. The "laptop" form factor is something that we've arrived at by accident/convenience than as a result of some high level look at the way humans need high performance compute power on the go. Hard attaching a keyboard to a screen is unnecessary when you think about it. Why impose such constraints? Because putting the keyboard on top of the CPU and disk was the way they did it back in the 1980s?

You're always using computer in an office, on a real desk? I do 90% of my work in trains and other places where the only place to rest the machine is on my lap. Having to balance two separate pieces and actually be able to work is not something I'm looking forward to. I prefer the whole thing a compact package I can drag around, open up for work and then stow away again when I need to move on. That's one reason I hate using iPad, even with a keyboard case. Most don't connect well enough to be used on lap.
 
And then a couple weeks later, Kaby Lake will be available making your 1 month old, shiny, new RMBP, a generation behind in CPU terms.

As always! Thin is good! But for f%#&s sake please just release something that is actually NEW for once!
 
15" MBP that's about 3 ~ 3.5 lbs means instant upgrade for me. With usb type c you can use external gpu, so I'm ok with iris pro without dedicated gpu.

Yay, even more dongle heaven, now with the gpu too! I've got MBPr15 and if there's something I'd change it's cooling and battery life. The battery is really mediocre imho and it's toasting my balls as it is. Running just the web browser with a few tabs, mail and Pocket. :p

If I want to play wth Legos I'll do it with the real thing. Keep all those dongles and external boxes away from me. :p
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So the MBP is getting the MacBook's crappy keyboard? I guess that makes an eventual purchase of a Surface Book to replace my current MBP a bit more justifiable.

Same here. No way in hell I'm going to buy a single Mac with that keyboard. Same goes with that Magic Keyboard. It's not quite as bad, but still hated every second of trying it out. Walked out of the store without the 27" retina iMac. They just didn't want my money. :p
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If there is any weight to these claims then it's worrying that the headline/selling point is focusing on thinness.. Thats fine for the Airs/MBs but for me the rMBP is as thin as it needs to be, i think it's a perfect size and can fit normal components.. where is the compromise? No discreet GPU? no ports?

I'd rather up the thickness by a mm or two if that would buy me a much larger battery and better cooling on rMBP15. The thinness doesn't do anything for me but being able to work the whole day without dragging my Chromebook with me would. A LOT. rMBP15+Chromebook is a lot thicker than a slightly thicker rMBP would be. :p
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Cellular on a computer isn't all that useful in real life. The data caps make it unaffordable for anything beyond email or limited web browsing and the who have unlimited data don't have access to tethering.

Do remember that there's a big world outside the U.S. I've got unlimited data at full LTE speeds and no limits to tethering. Costs ~$22/mo. I use mobile data all the time, either through my iPhone or using one of the two LTE dongles I've got. One came free with my home internet, another is a prepaid I got for some misc stuff. And yes, that $22 is total for all three. Then again, the Macbooks here cost 1,5 times what you pay. :(
 
And the Mini?
I've got money to spend, Apple. How about you getting off your ass and updating the only computer you sell that interests me?
 
Oh great news! I'm so tired of lugging around these brick-like Macbooks. Glad Apple has their priorities straight. :rolleyes:
 
Well, I have been waiting for more than two years for n ultra-portable laptop with a good display and decent performance. If Apple ain't gonna make it there is always the Dell XPS or the carbon Thinkpad and I guess others.
 
And the Mini?
I've got money to spend, Apple. How about you getting off your ass and updating the only computer you sell that interests me?

Screw the Mini... and the iMac. They were great machines for their day but it's done. They need to be put down.

Apple needs to seriously consider scrapping the iMac and Mini and replacing them with a better consumer desktop offering, something designed from the ground-up better suited to current demands. I can only hope the current team at Apple is thinking like that. When you get the point where removing useful features to slim the machine down and make it more aesthetically pleasing is your best innovation, it's time for a do-over.
 
We've had the 3.5mm discussion to death over on the other forum.

Yes, the flimsy 3.5mm jack is an anachronism that we've inherited for no good reason. Tradition is not a reason to keep it around.

Audio professionals do not use 3.5mm jacks. People who use 3.5mm jacks listen to Beyonce with their cheap headphones. The next gen iPhones are moving to AirPods.

Do you really believe any of what you just wrote?
 
Don't care much, I have a great rMBP and will patiently wait for the new MBP. I'm sure it will be a great machine. Getting the mid 2012 rMBP was a lucky stroke, perfekt upgrade cycle.
 
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