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Apple Said to Ship New 'Ultra-Thin' 13" and 15" MacBooks by June-July
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Cellular on a computer isn't all that useful in real life. The data caps make it unaffordable for anything beyond email or limited web browsing and the who have unlimited data don't have access to tethering.
The fact is end of the day Integrated graphics are a lot slower than a discrete GPU. For quite a number of tasks, Integrated GPUs can't just cut it..
Fortunately, when it comes to the 15", currently there is a model that only has Integrated, and the more expensive that has Integrated and Discrete. I suggest you choose the lower model that has Integrated only. Options are great.
I fully expect that the Macbook Pro 15" would come with an i7..
Fortunately, when it comes to the 15", currently there is a model that only has Integrated, and the more expensive that has Integrated and Discrete. I suggest you choose the lower model that has Integrated only. Options are great.
I fully expect that the Macbook Pro 15" would come with an i7..
Sounds good to me. I'd basically like a thinner, retina MacBook Air without the ugly silver bezel - fingers crossed.
If they make an ultra thin 15 inch Macbook that's faster and has more ports, sign me up.
Also, the lineup is getting so confusing. The Macbook is thinner and lighter than the Macbook Air.
Also, the lineup is getting so confusing. The Macbook is thinner and lighter than the Macbook Air.
Apple please don't gimp the rMBP. Please. It's thin enough, keep it that way, and don't underpower everything.
All sorts of complaining about this... and talk of MacBook Pro.
Where does the article say this is the Pro?
MacBook Air and Retina MacBook are destined to be merged, just like the Legacy MacBook Pro (optical drive version) and Retina Unibody MacBook Pro were staggered together, and eventually the retina-screen thinner MBP went on alone. Something kept the MacBook Air in the lineup dovetailed with the MacBook.
I have supported hundreds of top-end MacBook Pro dual-boot workstations over the years, and there is a need for them for design, production, and other high-demand work on a mobile workstation.
But more and more of that is getting off-loaded onto server farms, rendering farms, and virtual machine interfaces, in a way, the pendulum is swinging back toward a mainframe/console like paradigm, not because computers take up entire rooms or floors of buildings, but because mobile devices are so prevalent, and workstations can be more flexible by logging into thin clients or remote sessions on any desk, laptop, or even tablet device.
Computers aren't prohibitively large, or expensive anymore, if anything they are so cheap that everybody can have several, from their watch to their workstation, and their phone, tablet, and laptop in between, and connectivity is taking big strides forward in available, relatively consistent and widespread access at high bandwidth.
Now it is becoming about unified and roaming interface between devices, and no one end-point device is best served by solely having all the processing power... that is going back to higher-powered servers and network infrastructure, and SAN or cloud storage.
Carting around enough power to do major production work is still a use case, but it isn't a growing use case. Carting around a way to connect remotely to a production infrastructure is more and more the case.
MacBook Pro needs a re-design to bring it forward on tech specs, but mostly the same form factor.
MacBook (NOT pro) needs to get unified and brought forward, and 12-14-16 or 11-13-15 form factors that are easy to bring along without being a nuisance or a burden to carry are nice, and enough power for non-production or remote-access uses, while being versatile with a full OS. 11" or 12" use cases are also being somewhat eclipsed by the versatility of iPad Pro with a keyboard. It isn't a full computer, but it can run a VM/remote desktop session to one, and be a graphics tablet with direct draw input as well. an 11 or 12" laptop may have a use case, also, but that may also be shrinking.
Screen real estate, full OS multitasking and versatility, and ease of typing and higher-use interface aspects are still an advantage to laptops over tablets, and a 13-14" screen as a smaller option, and a 15-16" as a larger display option are good sizes for a moderate user who doesn't need 2500-3000$ worth of horsepower, but needs more than iOS functionality.
A new MacBook with at least two ports (USB-C or 3.1 or both), and current/upcoming Skylake or Kaby Lake processing and the newest, fastest SSD and Ram tech, and a fast, robust 802.11AC wifi connection (and a good ethernet adapter for those who need one) could be a really good mid-range laptop, where MacBook currently doesn't offer enough ports, and MacBook Air doesn't offer enough display, and neither are stellar on processing power.
A 2 (or even 3) size option MacBook upgrade would dovetail nicely with an overlapping 2-size option MacBook Pro redesign with more performance, and more ports, and not as concerned with physical dimensions like depth or weight. 4 Laptops in the lineup would make a good mix.
Where does the article say this is the Pro?
MacBook Air and Retina MacBook are destined to be merged, just like the Legacy MacBook Pro (optical drive version) and Retina Unibody MacBook Pro were staggered together, and eventually the retina-screen thinner MBP went on alone. Something kept the MacBook Air in the lineup dovetailed with the MacBook.
I have supported hundreds of top-end MacBook Pro dual-boot workstations over the years, and there is a need for them for design, production, and other high-demand work on a mobile workstation.
But more and more of that is getting off-loaded onto server farms, rendering farms, and virtual machine interfaces, in a way, the pendulum is swinging back toward a mainframe/console like paradigm, not because computers take up entire rooms or floors of buildings, but because mobile devices are so prevalent, and workstations can be more flexible by logging into thin clients or remote sessions on any desk, laptop, or even tablet device.
Computers aren't prohibitively large, or expensive anymore, if anything they are so cheap that everybody can have several, from their watch to their workstation, and their phone, tablet, and laptop in between, and connectivity is taking big strides forward in available, relatively consistent and widespread access at high bandwidth.
Now it is becoming about unified and roaming interface between devices, and no one end-point device is best served by solely having all the processing power... that is going back to higher-powered servers and network infrastructure, and SAN or cloud storage.
Carting around enough power to do major production work is still a use case, but it isn't a growing use case. Carting around a way to connect remotely to a production infrastructure is more and more the case.
MacBook Pro needs a re-design to bring it forward on tech specs, but mostly the same form factor.
MacBook (NOT pro) needs to get unified and brought forward, and 12-14-16 or 11-13-15 form factors that are easy to bring along without being a nuisance or a burden to carry are nice, and enough power for non-production or remote-access uses, while being versatile with a full OS. 11" or 12" use cases are also being somewhat eclipsed by the versatility of iPad Pro with a keyboard. It isn't a full computer, but it can run a VM/remote desktop session to one, and be a graphics tablet with direct draw input as well. an 11 or 12" laptop may have a use case, also, but that may also be shrinking.
Screen real estate, full OS multitasking and versatility, and ease of typing and higher-use interface aspects are still an advantage to laptops over tablets, and a 13-14" screen as a smaller option, and a 15-16" as a larger display option are good sizes for a moderate user who doesn't need 2500-3000$ worth of horsepower, but needs more than iOS functionality.
A new MacBook with at least two ports (USB-C or 3.1 or both), and current/upcoming Skylake or Kaby Lake processing and the newest, fastest SSD and Ram tech, and a fast, robust 802.11AC wifi connection (and a good ethernet adapter for those who need one) could be a really good mid-range laptop, where MacBook currently doesn't offer enough ports, and MacBook Air doesn't offer enough display, and neither are stellar on processing power.
A 2 (or even 3) size option MacBook upgrade would dovetail nicely with an overlapping 2-size option MacBook Pro redesign with more performance, and more ports, and not as concerned with physical dimensions like depth or weight. 4 Laptops in the lineup would make a good mix.
Guys. That means it's time to buy MacBook now if you have time. Buy it before they update it because Tim Cook is gonna screw up another product line soon
Audio professionals aren't the only ones who enjoy the great quality of the DAC inside the MacBook Pro lineup. Some of us like to invest in nice amps and headphones. Throwing that all away with taking away the 3.5mm jack for the only purpose of thinness? That's just silly.
If the smallest Macbook still has 3.5 jack this will never go away until the iphone 7. The iphone will be the start in removing that port. so moving on. thunderbolt 3 usb-c for sure they will keep it
Improved speakers is for sure since every apple product gets imporved speakers since acquisition of beats, i mean look at how good are the speakers in the smallest macbook, and what sound can put into a bigger macbook like 15"
Improved speakers is for sure since every apple product gets imporved speakers since acquisition of beats, i mean look at how good are the speakers in the smallest macbook, and what sound can put into a bigger macbook like 15"
If Razr and Dell used software that was as good as Apple, it would be no competition. Fact of the matter is is that Apple dominates in the software portion (As well as keyboard and touchpad, which are two of some of the most important aspects of a laptop for me), while every other company blasts them with hardware. If a company can merge these two benefits of these two sides, it'll be no competition.
TIM COOK!
What we need are Macbook Pro's with 2 thunderbolt 3 connections, two USB 3's 4k display, 1k MB/s ssd's and support for EGPU.
For Mac Pro's a trade in program to remove the old motherboard and replace it with a thunderbolt3 version, as well as a graphics card replacement program and EGPU allowed.
Thats it I'm writing Tim.
What we need are Macbook Pro's with 2 thunderbolt 3 connections, two USB 3's 4k display, 1k MB/s ssd's and support for EGPU.
For Mac Pro's a trade in program to remove the old motherboard and replace it with a thunderbolt3 version, as well as a graphics card replacement program and EGPU allowed.
Thats it I'm writing Tim.
Over his dead body. You're more likely to get a new iteration of an iPhone that doesn't decrease in thinness than them having to lose potential profits from a now dead market that is the Mac Pro.
They need to fire Jon ivy the.
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And people would be suckered in to buy one.
Why buy if the current may be screwed up as? I believe someone on this thread talked about his mbp having problems.
For many years, MacBooks have had a higher than normal logic board failure rate. While this rarely happens during the warranty period, it often happens when the computer is 4-5 years old. At that point, what would otherwise be a perfectly usable computer becomes useless garbage because of the astronomical cost of a logic board replacement. This might be acceptable on a cheap PC, but is very frustrating for those who pay top dollar for a high end MacBook Pro which they expect to have a longer usable life.
Heat issues are often cited as a culprit, including the nVidia discreet GPUs you mentioned. The fact that Apple has moved to thinner designs also makes cooling more challenging. And finally, there's Apple's move to lead-free solder:
"the solder used to connect the dedicated GPU in the laptops to the main circuit board... was lead-free to comply with EU regulations, and made its way into US products so Apple could save on manufacturing costs."
“Lead-free solder,” the complainants write, “which is typically composed of a combination of tin and silver, suffers from two well-known problems. First, it tends to develop microscopic 'tin whiskers,' which cause short circuiting and other problems within electronic devices. Additionally, lead-free solder tends to crack when exposed to rapid changes in temperature.” The complaint goes on to state that such rapid changes in temperature are caused by the processors themselves heating the inside of the laptop up.
“Lead-free solder,” the complainants write, “which is typically composed of a combination of tin and silver, suffers from two well-known problems. First, it tends to develop microscopic 'tin whiskers,' which cause short circuiting and other problems within electronic devices. Additionally, lead-free solder tends to crack when exposed to rapid changes in temperature.” The complaint goes on to state that such rapid changes in temperature are caused by the processors themselves heating the inside of the laptop up.
I've had two top-of-the-line MacBook Pros with failed logic boards. One had to be trashed because its AppleCare coverage had expired. The other (a 2013 model) was covered under AppleCare and repaired for free last year. The cost of the repair would otherwise have been over $1000.
Considering Apple's sky high end prices and profit margins, I would love if we had a strong consumer protection agency that forced them to provide 4-5 years of warranty coverage instead of just one year standard plus an extra two for $350.
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Make sure the camera is sticking out on the bottom, so that it wobbles, please. That would be consistent with the iPad and the iPhone.
We talking about Apple here. If it will be thinner and lighter, no other sacrifice will be too big.