Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
This is becoming a load of bS!! I took my phone into the Cherry Hill, NJ Apple Store last week when I was told they need to order a battery for my 6+. Yet today I got a call from them say the battery wont be in until April. WTF!! Is this an effort just to wait the issue out.!Can someone please say CLASS ACTION!!

Did you really expect Apple to stock their Stores with adequate batteries? Apple is inept at handling most of their issues. They need to stop throttling the iOS moving forward and let users control their experience. Most likely to happen after the 30+ class action suits are settled.
 
Oh man. They put code in to extend the use life of the phones and keep the phones operating and not shutting down.

You believe what you wish. I'll concede that could even be true.

Or they could put in that code to try to spur on "long in tooth" sentiment to drive upgrades a little faster.

Or they shifted to some poor power option with iPhone 6 and wanted to try to cover it up rather than potentially being pressed to replace all those phones.

Etc.

Of course, some of us can see them as purely a saint here. But some can see them as sinner too. You may be right or wrong in how you see them. They have great motivations to spur on faster hardware updates. They have great motivations to avoid any kind of phone recall event, expensive and very negative for PR.

Or they could have decided way out in version 10 of iOS that after NOT putting in code to "extend the use life of phones and keep the phone operating and not shutting down" for all those generations of phones before it, it was finally time to do the right thing. If that's solely the case here, where's your outrage for all those years in which Apple just let your many former phones have shorter life, fail to operate and shut down sooner than expected?
 
Last edited:
About time.

The fact they denied exchanges all the while knowing it was their own battery throttling causing poor performances is suspicious as hell.
 
This app shows if your CPU has been slowed down.
Tap the hamburger icon in the upper left > Tap this device > Tap CPU > If the CPU actual clock equals CPU Maximum clock, then it's not slowed down.
Lirum Device Info Lite by Rogerio Hirooka
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lirum-device-info-lite/id591660734?mt=8

Put your phone in power saving mode and see what it shows the CPU clock at. I tried that app and the clock never changed. It should show 911 Mhz on a 6s when on power saving mode , but it showed 1848 Mhz on my device all the time. Yet CPUDasherX showed 911 with power saving on and 1848 with it off.
 
Apple are not choosing. Everyone gets one $29 replacement battery regardless of what the diagnostic says. If you want a second replacement you will have to pay $79 unless the diagnostic qualifies you for another replacement at $29. Apple are not choosing who can have it replaced any all.

Actually, that's not what happened for me - it looks like they're shipping my phone back without replacing the battery:

Screen Shot 2018-01-08 at 6.48.13 PM.png
 
This is such a waste of resources. People are lining up all day at my Apple Store to get a battery replaced and the overwhelming majority doesn’t even need it replaced! They have seen the news and think the batteries are defective. So much ignorance. I wish Apple hadn’t discounted them as that makes people think their battery is defective.
 
  • Like
Reactions: artfossil
This is such a waste of resources. People are lining up all day at my Apple Store to get a battery replaced and the overwhelming majority doesn’t even need it replaced! They have seen the news and think the batteries are defective. So much ignorance. I wish Apple hadn’t discounted them as that makes people think their battery is defective.
This is barely making a dent in Apple's resources.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This is such a waste of resources. People are lining up all day at my Apple Store to get a battery replaced and the overwhelming majority doesn’t even need it replaced! They have seen the news and think the batteries are defective. So much ignorance. I wish Apple hadn’t discounted them as that makes people think their battery is defective.

I don't care if it is defective - for $29 it's just worth it to me to refresh the battery on my 6 plus so it can last longer than it otherwise would.

Now, apparently apple didn't want to sell me a $29 battery because they "couldn't duplicate issue" - but I didn't have any issue other than "I want to buy a new battery for $29".
 
“Apple says iPhone batteries are designed to retain up to 80 percent of their original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles”. REALLY! up to 80% after 500 cycles? Which means it can be a whole lot lower? It should be AT LEAST 80% after 500 cycles. But that is still lousy. Most people charge there phone every day. So Apple is basically admitting that they design it to last about 2 years and then it will start to crap out? Just in time for you to pay it off so you have to get another one?

My 1st generation iPad which has been charged who knows how often still holds a charge really well. I dont like this planned obsolescence being designed into iPhones at all. They are getting greedy and its going to bite them in the ...
 
Last edited:
Really? Forever?

They’re charging $29 for a one-time, without any proof of batter degration replacement. That alone is more than they need to do.

But beyond that, they’re offering a $29 replacement if the new battery eventually falls below 80% capacity.
[doublepost=1515453308][/doublepost]
So you’re battery that you personally degraded is apparently defective from Apple?

Hahaha.....
I’m not personally asking Apple to do anything but it appears many people are outraged that Apple’s solution to power supply is to throttle device when peak power is insufficient. It isn’t a “feature” that was advertised and Apple is very fussy about 3rd party repairs. That leaves customers in a bind. $80 is an outrageously inflated price. I have been doing battery replacements in iOS devices for years and charge no more than $30. Considering Apple has vastly better sourcing than I do, they should be able to offer $30 replacements.

Again, I do not take issue with throttling when peak power is too low. Simply of the opinion that Apple’s battery service should have always been $30 and done in store in less than 20 mins.
 
Have people with the iPhone 6, who had the battery swap, notice an improvement in performance? My sister had her battery swapped but still says her phone is slow.
Mine was swapped 4 days ago & I see only slight improvement in battery drain.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must also have an original Apple battery in your phone to get it replaced. Apple will not replace a 3rd party battery for safety issues. They also will not put in a new battery if your phone is missing a battery, but they couldn't give me a reason why not.

I wish all the people here who were recommending 3rd party battery replacements read this.
 
This is such a waste of resources. People are lining up all day at my Apple Store to get a battery replaced and the overwhelming majority doesn’t even need it replaced! They have seen the news and think the batteries are defective. So much ignorance. I wish Apple hadn’t discounted them as that makes people think their battery is defective.

Facts are Apple throttled devices big time. Apple battery diagnostic tests are also a joke because there is no way in hell that my battery capacity is over 80% on my iPhone 6 plus. 29+ class action law suits to boot as well. Tim Crook should be giving all iPhone users a free battery replacement over this epic debacle.
 
Apple battery diagnostic tests are also a joke because there is no way in hell that my battery capacity is over 80% on my iPhone 6 plus.

How accurate is Coconut Battery? My SE shows 89.9% @ 290 cycle count. Phone was bought in Aug 2016.
 
How accurate is Coconut Battery? My SE shows 89.9% @ 290 cycle count. Phone was bought in Aug 2016.

Who knows, my iPhone 6 plus was bought in late 2014 so there is no way it could be over 80% capacity at this point. Yet the apple tests state otherwise, lol.
 
FYI, it's not true that they will replace your battery if you request it. They are refusing to replace the battery in my wife's iPhone 6+ and are claiming that it's due to malware.
 
FYI, it's not true that they will replace your battery if you request it. They are refusing to replace the battery in my wife's iPhone 6+ and are claiming that it's due to malware.
That sounds like something Geek Squad would say, not Apple. The people you talked to must be complete idiots and I would contact Apple directly about your issue.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ManOfMystery
This is getting ridiculous. As long as there is a mismatch between the genius diagnostic and the ios data (that causes the throttling) the customer should get a replacement, especially when he is paying for it. I really hope one of the lawsuits reveals Apple throttling mechanism and battery design in detail. There is something fishy about this whole thing. Apple says it's not permanent, but nearly every user report i read so far suggests it is rather permanent and disappears with a new battery.

Yes, just got back from my Genius Bar appointment to get my iPhone 6 battery replaced and it seems all pretty fishy... and they really make people go through hoops. It took about 30' after my scheduled appointment time (at 2pm) before a technician was finally available to see me. He ran the diagnostics test and then proceeded with a long-winded script telling me that my 2-year old battery actually still looked pretty decent and passed their test and that I should consider first re-installing the OS from scratch to see if that might take care of the battery performance and clock-speed throttling issues I have been experiencing overnight, after Apple semi-forced me to install iOS 11, about a month ago. The guy was polite and acknowledged that they would honor the $29 replacement, but then kept coming back with all type of arguments for holding off on a battery replacement, including the fact that I would have to reschedule another appointment, the chance that all my data might get accidentally wiped in the process, etc.

It felt like borderline car salesman tactics and it left a bad taste in my mouth, especially after I witnessed an older gentleman - across the Genius table from me - being talked out of replacing his current battery in his iPhone 6 by another technician, who was rattling off the same script, telling him how his battery still showed some life and advising against replacing it. The old man left the Apple store visibly perplexed and confused. I felt sorry for him, because I am sure he will now have to continue to deal with a crippled iPhone, that throttles down the clockspeed to 600Mhz as soon as you hit the 50% battery level.

The Genius Bar technician who "helped" me, ultimately made one more final attempt at making me decide to hold off on a battery replacement. He told me that the diagnostics results might indicate that a new battery might ultimately not do anything to address the performance issues I have been dealing with since upgrading to iOS 11. In response, I told him: well, if my phone still shows the same lackluster performance with a brand-new battery, at least I'll have pretty definitive proof that Apple is forcing OS upgrades onto their customers, which their 2-year old devices can't adequately run. And, in that case, I know that - after 9 years of being a loyal iPhone user - it's time to look at what other vendors have to offer.

Overall, I feel like Apple could have avoided this whole mess if they wouldn't be so heavy-handed in trying to make customers with older devices to upgrade to the latest OS version. Or at least allow people to go back to the previous version of iOS, the way they allowed it in the past (both for iOS and iTunes). This whole episode feels embarassing for a company that has done so much to build tremendous trust and loyalty from its customers... Yes, other vendors have been dealing with embarassing issues, but - to be honest - this debacle ressembles much more VW's dieselgate than Samsung's Galaxy Note 7 nightmare, which makes it all even more troubling.
 
Yes, just got back from my Genius Bar appointment to get my iPhone 6 battery replaced and it seems all pretty fishy... and they really make people go through hoops. It took about 30' after my scheduled appointment time (at 2pm) before a technician was finally available to see me. He ran the diagnostics test and then proceeded with a long-winded script telling me that my 2-year old battery actually still looked pretty decent and passed their test and that I should consider first re-installing the OS from scratch to see if that might take care of the battery performance and clock-speed throttling issues I have been experiencing overnight, after Apple semi-forced me to install iOS 11, about a month ago. The guy was polite and acknowledged that they would honor the $29 replacement, but then kept coming back with all type of arguments for holding off on a battery replacement, including the fact that I would have to reschedule another appointment, the chance that all my data might get accidentally wiped in the process, etc.

It felt like borderline car salesman tactics and it left a bad taste in my mouth, especially after I witnessed an older gentleman - across the Genius table from me - being talked out of replacing his current battery in his iPhone 6 by another technician, who was rattling off the same script, telling him how his battery still showed some life and advising against replacing it. The old man left the Apple store visibly perplexed and confused. I felt sorry for him, because I am sure he will now have to continue to deal with a crippled iPhone, that throttles down the clockspeed to 600Mhz as soon as you hit the 50% battery level.

The Genius Bar technician who "helped" me, ultimately made one more final attempt at making me decide to hold off on a battery replacement. He told me that the diagnostics results might indicate that a new battery might ultimately not do anything to address the performance issues I have been dealing with since upgrading to iOS 11. In response, I told him: well, if my phone still shows the same lackluster performance with a brand-new battery, at least I'll have pretty definitive proof that Apple is forcing OS upgrades onto their customers, which their 2-year old devices can't adequately run. And, in that case, I know that - after 9 years of being a loyal iPhone user - it's time to look at what other vendors have to offer.

Overall, I feel like Apple could have avoided this whole mess if they wouldn't be so heavy-handed in trying to make customers with older devices to upgrade to the latest OS version. Or at least allow people to go back to the previous version of iOS, the way they allowed it in the past (both for iOS and iTunes). This whole episode feels embarassing for a company that has done so much to build tremendous trust and loyalty from its customers... Yes, other vendors have been dealing with embarassing issues, but - to be honest - this debacle ressembles much more VW's dieselgate than Samsung's Galaxy Note 7 nightmare, which makes it all even more troubling.
I would have been absolutely livid.
 
Yea if you can find an Apple store that has them in stock. Went to Apple today and they told me I had to wait 4 weeks before they can replace the battery.

Imagine if they offered a free replacement instead of $29, no stocks for months.
I'm going to wait until the summer to replace my dad's battery. The important thing is to be able to do that at the discounted price, I'm not in a hurry
 
  • Like
Reactions: citysnaps
Same thing happened to me and the first thing they told me is to get the newest iOS first and that would fix the problem. I gave them the middle finger and left.
Sounds almost exactly like what happened to me today at my appointment. Now waiting for an email to let me know when they will be able to effectively replace my battery. They told me 2 weeks, but not holding my breath... While sitting at the Genius Bar first waiting for a technician to run their test and then having to listen to said tech rattling off his script about first doing a full reinstall of the OS before making the rash decision of replacing my battery, all while witnessing several other customers around me subjected to the same car salesman pitch, I realized this was the first time I was in an Apple Store and felt like I was at a "sorry place", like said car dealership or a Verizon store, where you can't wait to get out and have to cut through all the sleezy sales talk to get a straight answer to your questions.
[doublepost=1515485296][/doublepost]
Sounds almost exactly like what happened to me today at my appointment. Now waiting for an email to let me know when they will be able to effectively replace my battery. They told me 2 weeks, but not holding my breath...

While sitting at the beautiful, wooden table of the Genius Bar, first waiting for a technician to run his diagnostics test, and then having to listen to said tech rattling off his script suggesting to first doing a full reinstall of the OS before I'd make the rash decision to replace my battery (all while witnessing several other customers around me getting subjected to the same car salesman pitch), I realized this was the first time I was in an Apple Store and felt like I was at a "sorry place"... like said car dealership. Or a Verizon store, where you and have to cut through all the sleezy sales talk to get a straight answer to your questions and you can't wait to get out to take a shower (or have a beer).
 
Anyone wanting or expecting more than this are downright greedy and selfish because invevitably it will push up prices for everyone if these moaners get their own way.
 
  • Like
Reactions: citysnaps
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.