Maybe Apple saw the dumpster fire that was the LG 5k display and realised that there were just some things you couldn't outsource...
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Apple Says All-New Modular Mac Pro With Apple-Branded High-End Pro Display Coming After 2017
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If we can manually upgrade most components... fine with me!
Case-in-point: Last year I upgraded my 2012 Mac Pro 3.33 hex with SSD drives and it feels like it's good to go for another couple of years!
And that is the sentiment TODAY. By the time this machine gets to the customers, it will again be based on 2 year old hardware and be outdated before it hits the shelf.
Why do they think they have to blow everyone out of the water by totally reinventing the wheel every time? We just know that they will do something that will throw a monkey wrench into the mix.
We all have the next macpro in our heads. It acts like a PC with everything modular and standardized to current hardware trends. PCI slots. M2 slots. USBC. TB3. Basically we are all looking for a really slick and cool PC tower that will run macOS. Apple's version of an authorized Hackintosh. Right? That's what I'm looking for.
IMHO, what we will get is- new gen PCI slots, with some weird connector that will have 2 fewer pins because they wanted to save 2mm in depth to make the machine thinner.
M2 memory slots- that are half length, because Apple owns the place where they can manufacture these blades and charge a premium for them until the 3rd partys crack the code, and get Apple certified versions (think MFi) going. Gonna be like toner cartridges, unless it identifies as Apple approved, it aint' gonna work.
USBC- they MIGHT leave these alone, but instead of providing a dozen of them split 6 in front and 6 in back, they will provide 4. "They can be chained together!" *sigh*
TB3- Again, might leave these alone, but we can always use MOAR!!!!
2.5"SSD's will be gone in favor of M2 or PCI memory. They will have to do just enough different to justify the wait, the suspense, the marketing, the push and the price. Being humble and coming out with just a standard frikkin tower that will run macOS and give tons of flexibility for the user is not how apple works, and has never worked. There is a bit of arrogance there, and this announcement I like to imagine came with much threats from board members, internal strife, years of marketing and sales data and general consternation at the internal people that were tired of using outdated trash cans.
Eat crow? Nope. I like the previous user that quote Tim "Apple's never wrong" Cook. Ego propping at its finest. The PR department must have been busy in the days and weeks before this all happened.
I guess there comes a time when even the blindest of fools sees the neglected mac line for what it is.
From Daring Fireball, nothing against Gruber, excellent blog, but is where quoting the line, "Apple has “great” new iMacs in the pipeline". Just saying I don't want to ever hear that phrase again, especially from Apple. Just don't. Think of another way to say it, please. It almost triggers a PTSD response now.
Because that's precisely what we pay Apple to do. Reinvent stuff.
If Apple only realized that they don't need to spend huge amounts of resources, money and time designing some piece of art for the New Mac Pro. Create a nice looking (Apple can do that quickly and easily) chassis-based Mac Pro, typical of something like a Dell Precision PC, filled with the latest standard technology, with slots, expansion, lots of memory slots, etc. I really think that is all people want. Obviously, Apple isn't interested in cornering the Mac Pro peripheral market, so leave it open to other manufacturers to develop video cards and expansion interfaces, etc. Get rid of EFI, and go UEFI like everyone else. It's pretty basic.
AND the Mac Mini. Three years old?
But we have new iPads, and iPhones, and a Macbook Pro with no function keys, a 'Touch Bar', and a noisy as heck keyboard, and dongles out the BUTT... (Soon to be Yet Another Dongle to correct their mistake killing Magsafe)
Apple stopped looking at the desktop. Apologies, or not, they have failed the desktop user. The whole world isn't something that you can carry around in your hand with zero expansion, no ports, a closed and overly skinny slab.
They didn't 'blink', they closed their eyes. Now they promise to have 'gotten religion' again, with some tease of something coming out at some point in the future that will 'change the world' while sprinkling 'spec bumps'?
I remember there was a joke about an industry that pre-promised products.
'A woman that married an IBM salesman spent the whole night after their marriage listening to her new husband tell her how absolutely mind blowing the sex was going to be, at some point in the future'...
Apple shouldn't be in the position where they have to preannounce products to keep their loyal users interested. It's embarrassing...
Apple dropped the price of 3 year old hardware ... wow ... amazing :-|
Beyond pleased about this. I'm one of the people who's very happy with the trash can Mac Pro but can fully appreciate why some are not. And if I'm brutally honest, the second GPU in my Mac is pretty much wasted space.
I hope the replacement is just as quiet and just as beautiful as the trash can, although like most pros how well it performs is the primary consideration.
I'm so happy that Apple have made this announcement. Perhaps they've finally grasped that keeping pro users in the loop won't hurt their bottom line? In actual fact, the announcement is likely to keep some waverers from jumping to Hackintosh or Windows.
My final thought is that although no timeframe has been given (other than "not this year") if something comes out in 2018/19 then it will be perfect timing for many of us who bought the 2013 Mac Pro (mine arrived in February 2014) and will be considering a hardware upgrade right about then.
I was beginning to fall out of love with Apple. This announcement, together with the latest Sierra update which has fixed an OS that was in many ways unusable. Happy days are here again.
I just hope I don't wake up and find out this is a nerd-dream.
I hope the replacement is just as quiet and just as beautiful as the trash can, although like most pros how well it performs is the primary consideration.
I'm so happy that Apple have made this announcement. Perhaps they've finally grasped that keeping pro users in the loop won't hurt their bottom line? In actual fact, the announcement is likely to keep some waverers from jumping to Hackintosh or Windows.
My final thought is that although no timeframe has been given (other than "not this year") if something comes out in 2018/19 then it will be perfect timing for many of us who bought the 2013 Mac Pro (mine arrived in February 2014) and will be considering a hardware upgrade right about then.
I was beginning to fall out of love with Apple. This announcement, together with the latest Sierra update which has fixed an OS that was in many ways unusable. Happy days are here again.
I just hope I don't wake up and find out this is a nerd-dream.
Finally ... we 3d animators really need dual socket CPU .. or have choice to select AMD or Nvidia GPU for rendering ...
But seriously, WHY?!
Why spend another gazillion of precious seconds working on something when they had a perfectly fine, finely perfect friggin' TOWER to start with, since friggin' 2006? It's 2017 and the tower Mac Pro still looks fabulous.
People even mod them to put hackintoshes inside, because Apple + upgrades + computing power rarely does compute.
I'm starting to suspect some teams are in a frenzy to justify their overblown salaries, at least it looks like that.
Why spend another gazillion of precious seconds working on something when they had a perfectly fine, finely perfect friggin' TOWER to start with, since friggin' 2006? It's 2017 and the tower Mac Pro still looks fabulous.
People even mod them to put hackintoshes inside, because Apple + upgrades + computing power rarely does compute.
I'm starting to suspect some teams are in a frenzy to justify their overblown salaries, at least it looks like that.
Man, it's early in the morning in California. This is going to be a good day. Thanks Apple for listening.
New MP in the works with displays. Wow, as a graphic designer this is the best news.
New MP in the works with displays. Wow, as a graphic designer this is the best news.
Maybe not every problem requires complete rethinking.
Maybe thinking "hey, pros need the best stuff ALL THE TIME, and they have the budget for it. maybe all this time spent thinking about how to build the last ever Pro machine is a waste?" would result in a product pros would actually want and buy.
Pros want apple build quality with Intel's release cycle. Do that. You don't have to make it into a trashcan first.
Maybe thinking "hey, pros need the best stuff ALL THE TIME, and they have the budget for it. maybe all this time spent thinking about how to build the last ever Pro machine is a waste?" would result in a product pros would actually want and buy.
Pros want apple build quality with Intel's release cycle. Do that. You don't have to make it into a trashcan first.
Transparency?! Apple??
Admitting mistakes and reversing design decisions?!
What did Queen Elsa do to end up in Hell?
Admitting mistakes and reversing design decisions?!
What did Queen Elsa do to end up in Hell?
The 2013 Mac Pro was probably "Jobs is gone, now we can run wild with it with no buffer". I think their intent was in the right place, but they didn't have anyone who would come by and say "Does this thing even function to the levels our Pro users expect?"
What a humiliating fiasco for the worlds biggest, richest and most powerful tech company that let a $25 billion dollar a year product line rot on the vine that has endured for 40 years.
Wow this is a big surprise. I thought they were just going to update the trash can design. I'm glad they realized that they need a more expandable modular system to cover all the pro bases. Great news!!
There is only one thing that can make me buy a desktop Mac: A touchscreen. Never buying another desktop Mac until that day. This is 2017 and Apple are looking pathetic compared to the competition. Underpowered, outdated garbage and no touchscreens. I've eyed so many Windows machines and thought seriously about making a touchscreen hackintosh, but I still hold out hope for an official model instead.
Give me a tower and take my mother****ing money.
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Please, no. That would be the final straw for me. A vertical touchscreen on a desktop computer is utterly unnecessary.
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Please, no. That would be the final straw for me. A vertical touchscreen on a desktop computer is utterly unnecessary.