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So.. Apple waited 3 years before giving thought to a serious Mac Pro update and now it's going to take another year, so 4 years for an update? I've waited long enough for the Mac Pro 7,1. I'm in the middle of investigating / picking parts for my Hackintosh project at half the price or less. And I'm not going to wait for another year.

If your apps run on Windows and you are building a PC, I'd just go for Windows. Windows 10 is great and you don't need to worry about it not being supported. #easylife
 
Can't innovate my arse (I'm sure someone's already said it, and I nearly searched the thread for "arse" - then wondered what I was doing with my life!)

Brilliant news though. See - they do listen!
 
No mention of this on Apple's site, and why would they get out of the display business and then announce in a year from now they will be getting back into it? They also never comment on future updates, why would anyone buy an iMac now with their comment today?

I don't think they ever said officially they were out of the display business, it was just something someone told Nilay Patel.
 
The "New" modular Mac Pro.

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Think they really forgot that Mac mini still exists.

Hopefully the Mac Mini is also updated.

I'm sure some of you are still pissed about there being no mention of Mac Mini.

The Mac Mini was mentioned.
Near the end, John Paczkowski had the presence of mind to ask about the Mac Mini, which hadn’t been mentioned at all until that point. Schiller: “On that I’ll say the Mac Mini is an important product in our lineup and we weren’t bringing it up because it’s more of a mix of consumer with some pro use. … The Mac Mini remains a product in our lineup, but nothing more to say about it today.”
 
Lastly, how would announcing future products which they aren't selling yet help the sales of current products?

The Mac Pro never was about sales. It was about strengthening the Apple ecosystem and getting content creators and developers onto their platform.
They've probably made the announcement to prevent people from switching. Pro customers and corporations put lots of work into their networking, corporate integration etc. Once they are gone, they won't come back easily. Instead of leaving, some or even most will wait what Apple is going to release before abandoning the platform.
 
This is a really weird way for Apple to publicly release such information. So they just officially leaked such info to daring fireball exclusively? Aren't there rules in place that force publicly owned corporations to share any information relevant for the stock price with each stakeholder at the same time, like through a press release, the website etc. Announcing strategic directions for the Mac desktop line seems quite relevant to me, esp. after such long silence here and many people fearing the worst.
Maybe read the article before commenting if you're going to complain?

"There are only nine people at the table. Phil Schiller, Craig Federighi, and John Ternus (vice president, hardware engineering — in charge of Mac hardware) are there to speak for Apple. Bill Evans from Apple PR is there to set the ground rules and run the clock. (We had 90 minutes.) The other five are writers who were invited for what was billed as “a small roundtable discussion about the Mac”: Matthew Panzarino, Lance Ulanoff, Ina Fried, John Paczkowski, and yours truly."​
 
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What would serve Apple well here is to actually have a product road map for pro customers, for those of us that use our computers to make money. We don't need to know all the details as we understand that something has to be kept back for competitive reasons, but we would like to know in advance whether we should invest in new kit or not. We can't run a business effectively when we are guessing whether or not the platform we are using will be supported in future.

Not having a roadmap is the quickest way to get users to jump to commodity hardware - we like to know where we stand. This announcement goes some way towards this, but Apple need a bit of a culture change and need to start publishing this stuff in advance.
 
Wow this is a huge middle finger to those who bought the current Mac Pro. To see it only get 1 iteration before its scrapped for another design.

"i'm so happy with my mac pro! ^_^ "

*reads this news*

"OMG MY MACHINE SUCKS! they are going to scrap it already!"


something like this?
 
So you mean buying a 3k machine and sell it in ebay at 300 dollars?? Wow that's investment :p

Well I won't be buying them now. In a few years when this gen is phased out, you buy them new for around a thousand dollars and wait some ten years to make a probable 50% profit. Nah, just kidding. Too much of a hassle. It will be a collectable some day, that's for sure.
 
What would serve Apple well here is to actually have a product road map for pro customers, for those of us that use our computers to make money. We don't need to know all the details as we understand that something has to be kept back for competitive reasons, but we would like to know in advance whether we should invest in new kit or not. We can't run a business effectively when we are guessing whether or not the platform we are using will be supported in future.

Not having a roadmap is the quickest way to get users to jump to commodity hardware - we like to know where we stand. This announcement goes some way towards this, but Apple need a bit of a culture change and need to start publishing this stuff in advance.
This.

What struck me about today's announcement was Apple's (relative) candidness in regards to past "issues" and future plans. This is something Apple has almost NEVER done before, and I really hope it marks a shift in how Apple deals with the Mac side of the business going forward.

While I don't think we'll ever get "roadmaps" of the types many other companies put out, just committing themselves to a regular update cycle, actually sticking to it, and keeping channels for dialog (like today's) open would go a long way to restore some of the trust that's been lost over the last few years.
 
That's strange for Apple to show their hand like that. To say hey...we're slightly updating our most expensive computer now...but will be doing a major update next year along with new Pro displays.
 
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Unexpected, but good news in every respect.

I personally bought a 6,1 in early 2014 for ~$2500 new. It is really overkill for my needs, as a Late 2014 mini is my daily driver. However, I think it's good they gave the current design a spec-bump to hold it over for a year or so. That means the original 6,1 should see plenty of macOS support for 3+ years from today. Meaning, the design/architecture of a model I bought 3 years ago will still be current for at least 4 years, plus probably get macOS support for 3 years after that. To me, 7+ years of support is pretty good.
 
This is a really weird way for Apple to publicly release such information. So they just officially leaked such info to daring fireball exclusively? Aren't there rules in place that force publicly owned corporations to share any information relevant for the stock price with each stakeholder at the same time, like through a press release, the website etc. Announcing strategic directions for the Mac desktop line seems quite relevant to me, esp. after such long silence here and many people fearing the worst.

It wasn't just John. They invited about 5 folks from the media friendly to Apple.
 
That's strange for Apple to show their hand like that. To say hey...we're slightly updating our most expensive computer now...but will be doing a major update next year along with new Pro displays.

Sure, seems a bit weird for them to show their hand, but it makes sense. If today you really need a 6,1, you get some "value" vs. yesterday's spec, knowing full well that it will be replaced (probably) next year. So you can weigh that into your purchase decision.
 
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