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Apple Says Aperture Won't Run in Future macOS Versions After Mojave

CmdrLaForge said:
I have more than 100000 picture in Aperture many edited and all in specific albums, I do not want to loose all my legacy work. Also Capture One Pro costs at least 350, that’s a lot of money for me. I do hope one day Apple brings Photos up to spec with Aperture and then I can move.
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Keep in mind that even if you keep Aperture running, you can’t use newer cameras. Apple stopped updating raw support.
 
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Analog Kid said:
If I purchase an application, and the application improves, I may choose to pay to upgrade it and get the additional functionality. If I don’t choose to upgrade then I continue using all of my files and applications as I always have, even if the product is discontinued.

If I rent software, I’m paying to keep using the same old thing. There is no incentive to continue development. If I stop paying, or if the software is discontinued, then I no longer have access to my previous work.

Subscription software is where companies go when they are out of ideas.
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And Apple is out of ideas when it comes to their photo software. You will soon be unable to access your previous work on Aperture. How is that different from Adobe constantly updating their software,
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Dranix said:
The difference is I have a working last version. If I stop paying rent my data ist worthless instantly.
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Working for how much longer through?
 
MacNut said:
And Apple is out of ideas when it comes to their photo software. You will soon be unable to access your previous work on Aperture. How is that different from Adobe constantly updating their software,
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I haven’t paid Apple a penny for photo software since 2014 and I can still open my library and view my adjustments. If I kept a machine running Mojave, I could continue doing so indefinitely.

If I were on a subscription, I would need to keep shelling out every month just to keep access to old data even though it isn’t my primary tool any longer.
 
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Analog Kid said:
I haven’t paid Apple a penny for photo software since 2014 and I can still open my library and view my adjustments. If I kept a machine running Mojave, I could continue doing so indefinitely.

If I were on a subscription, I would need to keep shelling out every month just to keep access to old data even though it isn’t my primary tool any longer.
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If you were on a subscription they would be updating the software. They won't charge you for outdated software, that would just be stupid. Adobe is in the business to make money, so they will keep their apps up to date. Apple doesn't care about old apps anymore. They just let them sit and rot away.

Do you honestly think Adobe will stop making Photoshop or Premiere?
 
MacNut said:
Apple is getting out of the hardware business
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Apple is not getting out of the hardware business, they are supplementing it with services revenue - most of which depends on their hardware ecosystem.

They would not be able to compete in the camera market unless they bought Sony.
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Given that, based on many public metrics (photos posted on various sharing and social media sites, as examples), the iPhone is the number one camera in the world, I do not think they need to buy anyone if they saw a reason to enter the market. Again, no one has given any reason that it would make any sense for them to bother entering a small, and declining market. I am pretty sure that Apple makes more profit on accessories than Canon makes on everything.
 
Alan Wynn said:
Apple is not getting out of the hardware business, they are supplementing it with services revenue - most of which depends on their hardware ecosystem.



Given that, based on many public metrics (photos posted on various sharing and social media sites, as examples), the iPhone is the number one camera in the world, I do not think they need to buy anyone if they saw a reason to enter the market. Again, no one has given any reason that it would make any sense for them to bother entering a small, and declining market. I am pretty sure that Apple makes more profit on accessories than Canon makes on everything.
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I look forward to seeing a wedding photographer using an iPhone to take all of the pictures. 😛
 
ignatius345 said:
This is probably a dumb question, but does anyone know: if old videos (say, from old digital cameras) are catalogued in Photos are they future-proofed...

I've got a bunch of family videos ... they're worth way too much to lose.

For what I use it for, I find Photos a pretty decent tool for what it does -- especially considering it's free.
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Future proofed for what? Six months, years, decades, centuries? Nothing is future proofed forever.

You’re looking to maintain valuable videos forever with software that came bundled free on your computer, hasn’t been updated in years and won’t run on future computers? No, you can’t reasonably rely on any level of future proofing in relation to Photo catalogs.
 
avkills said:
Wrong. If you have a Creative Cloud subscription then you can download what is called Lightroom Classic, which is the desktop app version. I switched from Aperture to Lightroom pretty much right after Apple ceased development of it.

Most professional photographers I know edit their photos in Photoshop.
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Not according to Adobe’s website. As of April 2019 Light room is web based only.
 
cmaier said:
I have an a7s and a7r-ii. At some point I’ll trade them in or something and invest in an a7r-iii or a9, I guess. Nice cameras.
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We have an a7s, and have been waiting on an a7s mark III to upgrade. We mostly use it for video, so it has been fine. Planning to get a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera, and a new mid-range cinema sometime in the near future as well.

Been really happy with the a7s.
 
MacNut said:
But if you buy software from Apple is that not moving money from your pocket to someone else?
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Sure, but only once. And I will be able to use it for many years and it won’t stop working unless Apple updates Mojave.

I cannot recall what I paid for Aperture and when but I know it was and still is worth the money.
 
CmdrLaForge said:
Sure, but only once. And I will be able to use it for many years and it won’t stop working unless Apple updates Mojave.

I cannot recall what I paid for Aperture and when but I know it was and still is worth the money.
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Do you use iCloud?
 
Beyo said:
Another stupid move to alienate users. We stick with two partitions and two operating systems on one machine or we should stop upgrading.
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It will have been discontinued for over 5 years when the next version of macOS stops supporting it. There were never that many users, and there are now even fewer of them. Supporting old 32-bit code that slows things down and makes upgrades more difficult does not make any sense. This move benefits the vast majority of users (by focusing resources on things they use). If there are a small number of people (even if they are very dedicated), still using this discontinued product Apple is giving them even more notice that they need to make other arrangements.

When Jobs was alive OS X didnt get new version each year. We dont need brand new OS each year with more bugs than earlier versions..
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I remember listening to Steve explain why Apple was killing OpenDoc and Cyberdog, because they were a waste of Apple’s resources. This is exactly the same.
 
stemoche said:
I use Aperture because I can import my photos imported outside of Aperture so that I can keep my own catalog tree as I wish and not be tied to the program like you are with Photos, and have the projects sorted by creation date automatically inside Aperture with the help of a script. That's what i'm missing with Photos. I used to use Photostation Pro, but it's expensive, if there is another program that can do this I would be happy to move on from Aperture.
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Lightroom allows you to store your photos in any way you want and to overlay that with multiple virtual catalogs that can arrange them in any other way you want, too. e.g. animal photos by date and/or location and/or phenotype and/or kingdom.
 
MacNut said:
But you used a piece of software that you can no longer use. So what's the difference really?
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Also keep in mind that there is a huge difference between a professional user = some who uses a certain software to help him earn money and home users. Everything I do for work I can first of all deduct from taxes and also have a very different needs that justifies the expenses. Also most probably a professional uses the software a lot more often.

I use Aperture for home use maybe once a month. Some month a lot more often, some month not at all. Depends.
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MacNut said:
Were people this upset when Rosetta stopped working?
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Some - Of course. Also doesn’t matter because obviously this time many are unhappy.

I really struggle to understand Apple business decision around the Mac and Mac Apps in general.
 
Analog Kid said:
Keep in mind that even if you keep Aperture running, you can’t use newer cameras. Apple stopped updating raw support.
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That’s unfortunately true in particular with RAW. I use Canon cameras and the have a RAW converter. Maybe Image capture does the job as well. But in that case one needs to store only JPEG in Aperture which would be fine for me.
 
Vjosullivan said:
Future proofed for what? Six months, years, decades, centuries? Nothing is future proofed forever.

You’re looking to maintain valuable videos forever with software that came bundled free on your computer, hasn’t been updated in years and won’t run on future computers? No, you can’t reasonably rely on any level of future proofing in relation to Photo catalogs.
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Funny, I don't recall asking for a lecture on future proofing, bro. Obviously no file format remains relevant forever, but since you're apparently unaware, the container Photos uses for its library contains all the files in their original formats (JPEG, MP4, RAW etc). There, you learned something today, so I guess this wasn't entirely a waste.
 
lkrupp said:
Not according to Adobe’s website. As of April 2019 Light room is web based only.
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I’m running classic right now. It exists. It’s a separate app with a separate name and is not going away anytime soon.
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MacNut said:
Were people this upset when Rosetta stopped working?
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Yes
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MacNut said:
I'd love an a9 but those are a little pricey even with the discount.

Instagram edited doesn't count IMO. That's just changing a profile.
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Pricey but worth it if your subject is moving. 🙂

Rumor is the a9ii is coming very soon. Hopefully that will knock the a9 price down even further.
 
cmaier said:
I’m running classic right now. It exists. It’s a separate app with a separate name and is not going away anytime soon.
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Yes
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Pricey but worth it if your subject is moving. 🙂

Rumor is the a9ii is coming very soon. Hopefully that will knock the a9 price down even further.
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The a9ii probably won't be announced until either this winter or early 2020.
 
ignatius345 said:
This is probably a dumb question, but does anyone know: if old videos (say, from old digital cameras) are catalogued in Photos are they future-proofed or does the media need to be checked for 64-bit compatibility? If so, can anyone point to any resources for checking this?

I've got a bunch of family videos dating back to about 2002 taken with little digital Canon cameras and the like, that have come along with me from iPhoto to Photos. They all play fine now, but they're worth way too much to lose.
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Your media is fine -- just make sure you are backing it up properly. Photos stores those files but doesn't mess with their format. If at some point current formats give way to new ones, there no doubt will be conversion utilities you can use.
 
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