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Apple Says High Power Mode on 16-Inch MacBook Pro With M1 Max Designed for Tasks Like Color Grading 8K ProRes Video
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You're aware that every single one of the most powerful Windows PCs they were compared against in the event is specifically marketed as a gaming laptop, yes?
Many things. Scientific calculations, 3D rendering stuff, or maybe multi-cam 8k pro res. The sky's the limit. There will always be a need for speed.If we're doing color grading on a MacBook Pro, what's left for Mac Pros to do?
I mean I used to think a computer capable of encoding 1080p H.264 at faster than realtime to be already fast enough.
That's more like because gaming laptops are laptops with the specs that Apple wanted, aka real discrete GPUs. Non-gaming laptops are mostly on integrated graphics, or paired with a crappy discrete GPU. It's not because of the gaming part, it's about the specifications.
They can find other ways to enjoy gaming without utilising local hardware (aka cloud gaming).
Not kill a battery from being plugged in constantly?If we're doing color grading on a MacBook Pro, what's left for Mac Pros to do?
I need this for my Google Chrome tabs.
The M1 Max GPU is a beast, can use up 60 Watts (which is still cool, 100 Watts less than the competition). And if I understand the Apple Power/Performance curves, then the CPU can use up to 30 W, which means a total dissipation of over 90 Watts, if we include peripherals and display, so that does generate a fair amount of "hot air" to get rid of, and if running on batteries at Max Performance would drain the batteries in about an hour. So I think the Power mode is primarily for use when plugged in, or for shorter spurts of high performance. The interesting question in terms of efficiency, is how much energy (Joules) is required for a given task. A really well designed "power mode" would use less energy for demanding tasks than letting it chug along at a lower performance level. Looking forward to see the reviews!
As we previously reported, we've received confirmation from Apple that 16-inch MacBook Pro models configured with an M1 Max chip feature a new High Power Mode that is designed to maximize performance during intensive, sustained workloads.
We've since come across a document from Apple that indicates users will be able to enable High Power Mode in System Preferences on a 16-inch MacBook Pro with an M1 Max chip running macOS Monterey. In the document, Apple says that High Power Mode will provide users with "extreme performance" for tasks like color grading 8K ProRes video.
It's still unclear exactly how High Power Mode will function, but we should get a closer look at the feature next week when reviews of the new MacBook Pro models are shared. Based on code-level references to High Power Mode in the macOS Monterey beta found by MacRumors contributor Steve Moser, we do know that the feature "will optimize performance to better support resource-intensive tasks" and "may result in louder fan noise."
Apple only confirmed High Power Mode being available on 16-inch MacBook Pro models with an M1 Max chip, so we presume the feature is not available on any 14-inch MacBook Pro models or any models configured with the M1 Pro chip.
9to5Mac's Filipe Espósito was first to discover references to High Power Mode in the macOS Monterey beta last month.
There are two configurations of the 16-inch MacBook Pro with the M1 Max chip available, including one with a 10-core CPU and a 24-core GPU and another with a 10-core CPU and a 32-core GPU. Pricing starts at $3,099 for this level of performance. The new MacBook Pro models will begin arriving to customers on Tuesday, October 26.
Article Link: Apple Says High Power Mode on 16-Inch MacBook Pro With M1 Max Designed for Tasks Like Color Grading 8K ProRes Video
My 2013 13” MBP has been plugged in pretty much constantly for years, acting as a Plex server and stuff like that, and the battery is still over 90%.
Only when needed ... keeping battery consumption lowest possible denominator and efficiency of cycles used according to what is needed.
Psh, my 2024 14" M3 Ultra-Max 2.9 nm MacBook Pro will crawl faster in ultra-low power mode than you're M2 Max MacBook Pro ;p
There was a time when Mac Pro was the only machine I could buy which was fast enough for what I do. I had 7 different models of Mac Pro/Powermac.
Then came a time when an iMac was fast enough and I didn't need a Mac Pro anymore so bought an iMac in 2017.
This week I ordered M1 Max MBP and selling my iMac because even a laptop is already fast enough for what I do. This machine will be more than twice as fast as my iMac anyway, but I realized that I won't need next years iMac update at all.
In the future I bet a Macbook Air will be fast enough for what I do or maybe an iPad will suffice.
Then came a time when an iMac was fast enough and I didn't need a Mac Pro anymore so bought an iMac in 2017.
This week I ordered M1 Max MBP and selling my iMac because even a laptop is already fast enough for what I do. This machine will be more than twice as fast as my iMac anyway, but I realized that I won't need next years iMac update at all.
In the future I bet a Macbook Air will be fast enough for what I do or maybe an iPad will suffice.
Ah yes the professional “creative” crowd. Color grading selfies and food pictures for Instagram and editing videos for YouTube showing gaming on M1 pro macs.
I'm kinda thinking the same thing. I bought the black trashcan MacPro (it's been like 7 years I think since then???) and it's just as speedy for me using the things I still do as the day I bought it. It only shows it's age now when I'm doing a 3D render in Photoshop with the highest settings, or games (which tbh, nobody does a whole lot on if you own a Mac-Mac never was a gaming computer). I'd imagine this thing will be like a rocket, and given how well Mac's age, will probably be speedy as hell at least 10 years away. Who knows what the heck high-performance computing is going to look like out that far. I doubt it's going to be on something that looks like a MacBook Pro in 2021.
Exactly. If it's designed for 8k then it should handle 4k better than any other model.
Honestly, if you're working with video and large files then go for the Max, unless you're upgrading every 3 years.
Yes there’s a lot of that….then there’s the fleets of MBP’s I deployed at ESPN that were used. Is that not professional enough to satisfy your snark?
I mean yea that’s a professional use. So cool. I’m more snarky at the idea that everyone with a camera is a Professional in the sense that they have achieved something in a profession. This is an entire rabbit hole.
On the other hand I disagree with the original post. Gaming is not irrelevant. People find joy in that and it takes up a lot of peoples time. I don’t think it’s a stretch for one to desire to be able to play games on these machines considering what they are and their quality. I find myself wanting something like this all the time and going back and trying it out, but until the main games I play are either native or apple does some magic I’m finding it easier to use a windows device for games and my iPad for other things.
I'm glad it supposedly can handle processing 8K, but honestly, do we really have a need for 8K yet? 4K has been around for years, and only recently have we seen new TV manufacturers move to 4K as the standard format. You still can't stream much 4K over most services, cable, satellite, etc. And OTA TV is staying at 1080i, 720p, and 480i for a long time to come. As far as HDR, well good luck streaming much f that at all! With the industry still trying to catch up with 4K, it will be a long time before 8K becomes a part of the average household. At present it is a small niche market only. I bought my first HDTV in the early 2000s (2002?). For years most programming was still SDTV and it looked terrible on the first HDTV sets. That is why I waited until this year to buy a 4k HDR TV. The bad experience of jumping the gun with HDTV was a hard lesson to learn. 8K TV, well if it comes it will be a long time from now...
"these are tools for doing work, not status symbols for influencers and coffee shop posers."
My new go to response to posts complaining about size / "legacy" ports being re added.
We are not talking about Playback here but editing often you film/ edit in higher resolution to enable cropping of the frame . So shooting in 8k some frames may be cropped later but you still get at least 4k image quality. I don’t shoot in 8k but I’ve used 5k footage like that and in a couple of years probably 8k GoPros etc will exist for amateur use
Yup. And that's ok as it happened long ago.
If the new machines happen to work well for gaming, that's a gift. To some.