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I hope apple gets out of their greedy mindset and try to do great products for people instead of a small subset. Ironically apple would make more money if they actually cared about not squeezing everything. But now it’s catch 22 and apple refuses to do anything.
Apple gets into AA, AAA gaming will likely be yet another device. Deliberate segregation, differentiation, strict control and monetisation. Apple would likely lever the performance of it's silicon based Mac's, yet just different enough to force a new product through as a standalone purchase...

In summation Apple is all about money. Nor do I think it looks produce a bad product, it does however look to extract the maximal from the customer as opposed to merging technologies to offer the best device...

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You do realize that you are describing what intel has done and why their chips suck right? Deliver everything, specialize in nothing.
Nothing I said described intel. They don’t build windows Os.

Apple just build great computers with stupid compromises and horrible drivers. Hence why games are dead on it and moved on
 
Pass never touched TB4, crossed wire somewhere

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Quote? Thunderbolt 4 uses DisplayPort 2.0 and support 10k display. As I said nothing technically stops it outside of GPU limitations.
Apple gets into AA, AAA gaming will likely be yet another device. Deliberate segregation, differentiation, strict control and monetisation. Apple would likely lever the performance of it's silicon based Mac's,
yet just different enough to force a new product through as a standalone purchase...
Why would they need another device? The M1 and M1 pro/ Max are extremely powerful and perfect for gaming with the equivalent of the 1060 or a RTX3050-3080

They already have the silicone to quite literally kill the entire x86, Nvidia, AMD gaming market for all but perhaps higher end gaming. For a killer deal, 60w and 15+ Battery life while the equivalent intel laptops would die in 30min
In summation Apple is all about money. Nor do I think it looks produce a bad product, it does however look to extract the maximal from the customer as opposed to merging technologies to offer the best device...

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That is extremely sad tho as it’s a great product but horrible software. They did everything good but support game developers or external GPU support for the M1
 
Quote? Thunderbolt 4 uses DisplayPort 2.0 and support 10k display. As I said nothing technically stops it outside of GPU limitations.

Why would they need another device? The M1 and M1 pro/ Max are extremely powerful and perfect for gaming with the equivalent of the 1060 or a RTX3050-3080

They already have the silicone to quite literally kill the entire x86, Nvidia, AMD gaming market for all but perhaps higher end gaming. For a killer deal, 60w and 15+ Battery life while the equivalent intel laptops would die in 30min

That is extremely sad tho as it’s a great product but horrible software. They did everything good but support game developers or external GPU support for the M1
Maybe Apple will, nobody outside of Apple knows. That said Apple clearly and deliberately differentiates to maximise profit. An Apple AAA focused console is just another untapped revenue stream waiting to happen. The gaming industry is huge, so just why has Apple ignored it for so very long? Apple either doesn't care or has plans to make significant inroads as and when Apple decides to do so.

The new MBP's are very capable, equally without Apple's intervention there is simply not enough of us on the platform to entice major developers barring a small minority. Yes it's big $$$ yet not enough in the broader scale of the gaming industry.

TLDR want a Mac? You have to play in Apple's garden...

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I don’t think you understand how this works, programming can’t do magic and macs run what 10 times more power and capability to an iPhone. you are making two different games if it use any qualities of the Mac att all. It’s equally a dead end as Microsoft’s stubbornly trying to unify touch interface tablets and dedicated computers.

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I hope apple gets out of their greedy mindset and try to do great products for people instead of a small subset. Ironically apple would make more money if they actually cared about not squeezing everything. But now it’s catch 22 and apple refuses to do anything.

"I hope apple gets out of their greedy mindset and try to do great products for people instead of a small subset. Ironically apple would make more money if they actually cared about not squeezing everything. But now it’s catch 22 and apple refuses to do anything."

Why support a greedy company that refuses to do anything? I certainly wouldn't.

Simply find a better laptop from a competing manufacturer and find happiness.

Easy.
 
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Maybe Apple will, nobody outside of Apple knows. That said Apple clearly and deliberately differentiates to maximise profit. An Apple AAA focused console is just another untapped revenue stream waiting to happen. The gaming industry is huge, so just why has Apple ignored it for so very long? Apple either doesn't care or has plans to make significant inroads as and when Apple decides to do so.
No need for a consol. Their computers already have the power. Apples equivalent console would be the iPad, iPhone, appleTV
Why have apple ignored it? Because they don’t care for the max as all the revenue is in iPhone. Evidence Mac Pro trash can (terrible design) being abandoned from 2013 untill 2019 uppgrade for useful work after 6 years of being abandoned, and iMac Pro 2017, both being abandoned and terribly designed for professional work.

And the 2016 and forward MacBook Pro with their terrible thermal performance and butterfly keyboard. A compromise build for a thin profile for no objective benefit at all. You want light buy a MacBook Air.
The new MBP's are very capable, equally without Apple's intervention there is simply not enough of us on the platform to entice major developers barring a small minority. Yes it's big $$$ yet not enough in the broader scale of the gaming industry.
Oh yes indeed that I can agree with. And if apple invested some money in game developers they would grow their Mac hardware sales.
TLDR want a Mac? You have to play in Apple's garden...

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Well shame, I’ll just run OS X on my PC. And not play by their rules

"I hope apple gets out of their greedy mindset and try to do great products for people instead of a small subset. Ironically apple would make more money if they actually cared about not squeezing everything. But now it’s catch 22 and apple refuses to do anything."

Why support a greedy company that refuses to do anything? I certainly wouldn't.
Well I don’t. That’s why I sold my retina MacBook Pro. Bought a many times better Desktop. And An iPad( biggest regret) will sell it for a laptop later on.
Simply find a better laptop from a competing manufacturer and find happiness.

Easy.
Well I have. I still just like OSX and would like to buy it again instead build a hackintosh.
 
No need for a consol. Their computers already have the power. Apples equivalent console would be the iPad, iPhone, appleTV
Why have apple ignored it? Because they don’t care for the max as all the revenue is in iPhone. Evidence Mac Pro trash can (terrible design) being abandoned from 2013 untill 2019 uppgrade for useful work after 6 years of being abandoned, and iMac Pro 2017, both being abandoned and terribly designed for professional work.

And the 2016 and forward MacBook Pro with their terrible thermal performance and butterfly keyboard. A compromise build for a thin profile for no objective benefit at all. You want light buy a MacBook Air.

Oh yes indeed that I can agree with. And if apple invested some money in game developers they would grow their Mac hardware sales.

Well shame, I’ll just run OS X on my PC. And not play by their rules


Well I don’t. That’s why I sold my retina MacBook Pro. Bought a many times better Desktop. And An iPad( biggest regret) will sell it for a laptop later on.

Well I have. I still just like OSX and would like to buy it again instead build a hackintosh.
Missing the point, not yours or mine solely Apple's. Nor will you be running macOS on PC much longer as the writing is clearly in the wall. Apple will get into serious gaming once other line's are saturated. Apple plays a long game and it clearly pays off like or loath it.

An Apple gaming console would have the power way above it's competitor's, more importantly Apple would have complete control over sales with Dev's clamouring to get on the platform, IOS!!! Yes there will be spin off's as there are today, equally I'd be very surprised if Apple does not opt for this lucrative path versus an open market model such as Windows gaming...

The 2016 redesign MBP was a disaster and I'm firmly on record from the onset as stating so, including it's reliability issues. Until Apple Silicon was released I ceased using Mac's professionally as they were simply inconvenient, worse unreliable. To me a Mac is a tool not a party piece, thankfully the tide is turning. The rest we will see in time. If Apple was good with gaming on the Mac the store and it's pricing would reflect.

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Missing the point, not yours or mine solely Apple's. Nor will you be running macOS on PC much longer as the writing is clearly in the wall. Apple will get into serious gaming once other line's are saturated. Apple plays a long game and it clearly pays off like or loath it.
Well I can always use the last available x86 compatible OS X version. But I will patiently wait as I would love to have the MacBook Air, but I need the ability to run a lot of windows programs and would love to play some of my core games at least on it.
An Apple gaming console would have the power way above it's competitor's, more importantly Apple would have complete control over sales with Dev's clamouring to get on the platform, IOS!!! Yes there will be spin off's as there are today, equally I'd be very surprised if Apple does not opt for this lucrative path versus an open market model such as Windows gaming...
Well their 1m Pro/max already far surpasses the Xbox and PS5 in all theoretical tasks. The Mac mini if updated with equivalent cpu/GPU ram needed
Xbox series X have 26GB, perhaps 16 is enough. And 512gb ssd.
And sold it for 600$ instead of 1.000$ it would destroy the competition if they had AAA games of note.
The 2016 redesign MBP was a disaster and I'm firmly on record from the onset as stating so, including it's reliability issues. Until Apple Silicon was released I ceased using Mac's professionally as they were simply inconvenient, worse unreliable. To me a Mac is a tool not a party piece, thankfully the tide is turning. The rest we will see in time. If Apple was good with gaming on the Mac the store and it's pricing would reflect.

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Then we will se how this develops considering it’s the best CPU/GPU on the market for a laptop. They should just do like everyone else and buy/invest in developers to do the best games on their platform as a customer interest.

To me a tool must be able to do both work and entertainment in equal quality, having both have no impact on work quality, but helps with life quality
 
Well I can always use the last available x86 compatible OS X version. But I will patiently wait as I would love to have the MacBook Air, but I need the ability to run a lot of windows programs and would love to play some of my core games at least on it.

Well their 1m Pro/max already far surpasses the Xbox and PS5 in all theoretical tasks. The Mac mini if updated with equivalent cpu/GPU ram needed
Xbox series X have 26GB, perhaps 16 is enough. And 512gb ssd.
And sold it for 600$ instead of 1.000$ it would destroy the competition if they had AAA games of note.

Then we will se how this develops considering it’s the best CPU/GPU on the market for a laptop. They should just do like everyone else and buy/invest in developers to do the best games on their platform as a customer interest.

To me a tool must be able to do both work and entertainment in equal quality, having both have no impact on work quality, but helps with life quality
Time will tell and Apple is what it is...

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