my statement was more sarcastic, i meant the display is out dated in terms of specs, they need to rethink and rebuild a better one.
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Apple Says Improvements to Studio Display's Webcam Coming in Software Update After Several Poor Reviews
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my statement was more sarcastic, i meant the display is out dated in terms of specs, they need to rethink and rebuild a better one.
Or even worse....they knew about it and still shipped it.
Great point. The problem is with displays, the next iteration may be years and years from now. These do not get refreshed often, if at all.
The camera/image quality on the new 14 & 16 Inch MacBook Pros are also horrendously bad. So honestly it's good to see that even those 12mp cameras also suck as it means Apple will HAVE TO FIX the underlying software issue. A 1080p MBP camera will never compete with an iPhone or Studio Display but it shouldn't be this bad!! So if the MacOS update (to fix the image quality on the Studio Display) also fixes/disables the auto-smoothing, anti-noise, comically-painted-makeup-effect, on the MBP image quality too, that alone would be a huge improvement!
Kinda disappointed with this Studio Display all together
other than aesthetic, its a standalone 27" panel found in retina iMac with 100 nits bump and no local dimming or anything
For that price? eh.
other than aesthetic, its a standalone 27" panel found in retina iMac with 100 nits bump and no local dimming or anything
For that price? eh.
Some pundits have speculated it can't be fixed via software. No idea if this is true, but I really hope it's not.
I was going to buy 2 of these for $4,600+ tax. (Then, the inevitable additional $4-6K for Studio Pro)
So glad I waited. Sad that given how long the refresh cycle for displays is, I'm now probably never going to buy these Apple displays. I've been waiting for years and years for Apple to bring back displays, only for them to fall flat on their face with a very expensive, crappy offering.
Pretty crestfallen.
I was going to buy 2 of these for $4,600+ tax. (Then, the inevitable additional $4-6K for Studio Pro)
So glad I waited. Sad that given how long the refresh cycle for displays is, I'm now probably never going to buy these Apple displays. I've been waiting for years and years for Apple to bring back displays, only for them to fall flat on their face with a very expensive, crappy offering.
Pretty crestfallen.
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crappy computer webcam is a staple of Apple‘s brand. Why break tradition
I’m not sure why it wouldn’t be fixable. We know how the same camera performs in the iPad Pro (and now 5th-generation Air).
Well, on the one hand, it's a bit puzzling what the issue is in the first place.
On the other hand, yeah, we've seen it work well on other Apple devices. And this article is literally Apple saying there will be improvements.
So, we'll see.
Looking at Gruber's sad mug in potato quality is worth a cursory skim:
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The Apple Studio Display
I’ve been waiting years for Apple to release a good desktop display for under $2000, and in every single regard *other* than the camera, the Studio Display meets or exceeds my expectations.
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Yeah that makes sense
With an A13’s Signal Processing and a 12MP sensor that image quality had no business being that bad
With an A13’s Signal Processing and a 12MP sensor that image quality had no business being that bad
Please post a link to a 5K 218ppi display that does 120Hz HDR so we can all weigh our options. Thank you.
Cancelled today. I'm fine with my 2020 27" Intel iMac for now.
Apple doesn’t make that many products.
it doesn’t launch that many brand new products either.
How can a flaw in such an important product slip by like that?
Surely all eyes must’ve been on it?
It’s concerning that the final 5-10% of quality control just doesn’t seem to be there often with Apple (especially on the software and UX side).
Very smart people work there so I’d love to know where going on there to make it so.
it doesn’t launch that many brand new products either.
How can a flaw in such an important product slip by like that?
Surely all eyes must’ve been on it?
It’s concerning that the final 5-10% of quality control just doesn’t seem to be there often with Apple (especially on the software and UX side).
Very smart people work there so I’d love to know where going on there to make it so.
I hope you're right, and it certainly makes sense. Maybe the A13 is too old and it needs the M1? I'd love to buy a couple of these, but Apple needs to know cameras, ALL cameras, matter.
I think about this all the time. What's interesting is it's not deep, hard to catch bugs or quality issues. Apple struggles with in-your-face software quality problems. Makes me think there is a culture of "just ship it" which management rewards. The problems, upset customers, and everything else gets buried in service repair reports.
Thinking back to the butterfly keyboard, it was an unmitigated disaster from a cost, brand, and customer satisfaction perspective. Apple only accelerated the new version of the Butterly keyboard when the WSJ ran the missing letter article making fun of them. Why was this the catalyst? If they had something better, why not ship it? And it took 4+ years for Apple to throw in the towel and give us the current keyboards, which are great.
There is clearly something wrong inside of Apple on the software quality front. They don't seem care when it's buggy apps and operating systems, because those are free. But now the software quality issues are hitting hardware sales.
If you pre-ordered, you'd be crazy not to cancel your order until it's clear this camera is fixed.
I hope this is a wake-up call for Apple.
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It's possible it's not happening to everyone. I've missed a few known issues before. Things like ATi graphics or Nvidia graphic card malfunctions. I never had said issue. Thankfully, its software and it's correctable.
I would definitely be pissed after ordering it and seeing that image. Fix it quickly Apple!
It seems like it’s affecting most reviewers, and even a recipient of the display today in Australia. Some of the reviewers noticed a slight difference between the appearance between macOS 12.2 and 12.3. It’s possible that 12.3 was supposed to include some code to adjust the image quality but the code in the final version isn’t working properly.
Assuming Apple fixes it by next week with a patch, it will all soon be water under the bridge.
I wonder if it has something to do with the latest 12.3 update, only reason I can think of in terms of how they didn't catch this.