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Using this logic, the iPhone 4 should have been recalled because of "antenna-gate." They recognized the downfall of the antenna design and "fixed" it when they produced the 4s. I personally have had zero issues with my 6 and I have had it since launch day but again, I take care of my $800 devices.

Yes..if Apl would make good products without the MAJOR design flaws perhaps they would have more than a lousy 12% (and declining) of the market globally, and don't start with the" X of profit" bs stuff that indicates abusive pricing and abusive margins , this also indicates cost cutting so much so some suppliers are switching to Android

Heres' a fun game ,name ONE product without a major design flaw from Apl...go
12%..11%...10%.....
Apls an expensive vice , look at smoking for the trend line
 
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I actually noticed this the other day that the phone (6) was acting much more gracefully when the battery went down to zero, and properly died when the battery was at where it should be, and not at 20-30% still left.
 
My 6 plus which is older than yours runs like a champ on the latest software.
This might be true, and I guess it is typical for new hardware to run current software better than older hardware, but that is not always the case.

My iPad Mini ran iOS 9 a lot better than my iPhone 6s Plus. The forum is filled with inconsistent posts about how iOS performance on various devices. Of course, the really old devices will most likely be pretty slow, but there were plenty of complaints on how iOS 9 ran on the iPhone 6s, while people with older devices saying it ran well.

BTW, I am referring to iOS 9 in the first 6 months or so after the release.
You're missing the huge difference in hardware between the original iPad Mini (which I agree is badly under-spec'd for iOS 9 and 10) and the 6S, which should run iOS 10 like a champ.

I appreciate your post, but I am not missing anything, refer to my post above. Also, I wasn't referring to the original iPad Mini, but the iPad Mini 3.

I will probably upgrade my iPhone 6s Plus to iOS 10 right before iOS 11 comes out. But, there is no reason for me to risk any problems, as there is really nothing worth upgrading for in iOS 10 imo. Also, once I upgrade, I will be stuck with that iOS.
 
Yes..if Apl would make good products without the MAJOR design flaws perhaps they would have more than a lousy 12% (and declining) of the market globally, and don't start with the" X of profit" bs stuff that indicates abusive pricing and abusive margins , this also indicates cost cutting so much so some suppliers are switching to Android

Heres' a fun game ,name ONE product without a major design flaw from Apl...go
12%..11%...10%.....
Apls an expensive vice , look at smoking for the trend line
Oh that weir imaginary "Apl" company. Those rascals!
 
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Brilliant plan to sell iPhone 7. The constant unreliablity of my iPhone 6 forced me to upgrade to a 7. To be honest, not a huge deal. Some wildman risked it and paid me good $ for the 6 and I'm enjoying the 7's camera even if it's not as great as the 7+. Glad they fixed the 6 for those who had the patience to wait it out.
 
My iPhone 6 will shutdown below 70% when exposed to cold or jump from 68% to 9% at times but as soon as you plug it in it jumps back to 68%.
And sometimes it stays at 1% for over an hour with regular use.
But I figure this is happening because it's over two years old and needs a new battery.
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Apple can release an updated version of 10.2.1. I experienced that with 10.1.1 After I updated iTunes kept saying there was this same update. I reapplied the update and the version bumped up a few digits.
Right now 10.2.1 is 14D27. The next might be 14D30
Yeah I remember the 10.1.1 issue. Very rare they release the same version without a bump in revision. So perhaps a new update in a day or so either 10.2.1 rev 2 or 10.2.2. But the article stated added to 10.2.1 so that would insinuate a new 10.2.1 build I would say.
 
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For the last several months, iPhone 6, 6s, 6 Plus, and 6s Plus users have been dealing with a problem that causes their devices to unexpectedly shut down, an issue that Apple now says it has successfully addressed in the latest iOS 10.2.1 update, released to the public on January 23.

In a statement provided to TechCrunch, Apple says that the iOS 10.2.1 update has resulted in an 80 percent reduction of unexpected shutdowns on the iPhone 6s and a 70 percent reduction of unexpected shutdowns on the iPhone 6.

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According to Apple, the shutdown issue that is solved by the iOS 10.2.1 update is separate from the problem that caused it to recall a select number of iPhone 6s devices. In that case, Apple said some batteries had been overexposed to "controlled ambient air" during the manufacturing process, resulting in the need for a physical battery replacement.

That there are multiple issues causing iPhone shutdowns explains why many iPhone 6 users also complained of problems after the iPhone 6s recall, and why the iPhone 6s issue seemed more widespread than Apple suggested in the recall program. There were even rumors that Apple was planning an iPhone 6 battery exchange program, something Apple quickly refuted.

The shutdowns solved by iOS 10.2.1 are reportedly caused by uneven power delivery from older batteries, which can trigger an emergency shutdown on an iPhone. Apple has tweaked its power management system to reduce shutdowns, but some users may occasionally still have problems, so Apple has also created a way to auto-restart without needing to connect to power. The auto-restart feature is available on the iPhone 6 and 6s in iOS 10.2.1 and will be added to the iPhone 6 Plus and 6s Plus in iOS 10.3.

A new battery info screen will also be added to iOS 10.2.1 in the next few days, letting customers who need to replace their battery know that it's not functioning as expected. The warning, which will be in the Battery section of the Settings app, will only be displayed to customers who need new batteries.

When iOS 10.2.1 was released, Apple did not include a mention of a fix for the iPhone 6 and 6s in its release notes, giving it time to quietly collect data on the shutdown issue before making an official announcement. Customers who are experiencing shutdowns on their iPhone 6 or 6s devices should upgrade to iOS 10.2.1 if they have not done so already.

Article Link: Apple Says iOS 10.2.1 Update Has Significantly Reduced Unexpected iPhone 6 and 6s Shutdowns
Not seeing this on partners 6 Plus, not sure what version she is on though.
 
> Apple says that the iOS 10.2.1 update has resulted in an 80 percent reduction of unexpected shutdowns

Hey, Apple, you know what results in 100% reduction of unexpected shutdown? iOS ‎9.3.5. True story! So stop shoving iOS 10 down my throat, and leave me be with iOS 9. And, by the way, I don't give a damn about emoji.
 
> Apple says that the iOS 10.2.1 update has resulted in an 80 percent reduction of unexpected shutdowns

Hey, Apple, you know what results in 100% reduction of unexpected shutdown? iOS ‎9.3.5. True story! So stop shoving iOS 10 down my throat, and leave me be with iOS 9. And, by the way, I don't give a damn about emoji.
Is that a fact that 100% of people with iOS 9 aren't and haven't been experiencing various battery-related issues?
 
I have to say, I had much less sudden shutdowns in last couple of weeks on my iPhone 6. I attributed this to the warmer weather as for me this really only was an issue when the ambient temperature was close to freezing (and I held my phone for long periods in my hand so it could cool down to something close to ambient). But it is possible that 10.2.1 also contributed to this improvement.
Today, I've 'tested' the battery in the cold. The phone kept working fine, longer than my hands (tested down to 35% charge). That's the primary goal, when holding my phone in the cold, it should be my fingers shutting down before the phone does so.
 
Is that a fact that 100% of people with iOS 9 aren't and haven't been experiencing various battery-related issues?
Certainly not. However, it is a fact that certain animations on iphone 6 stutter with iOS 10, whereas iOS 9 runs perfectly smoothly. This indicates to me that Apple is prone to introducing new bugs.
 
Certainly not. However, it is a fact that certain animations on iphone 6 stutter with iOS 10, whereas iOS 9 runs perfectly smoothly. This indicates to me that Apple is prone to introducing new bugs.
It's an interesting fact that some other users have been basically claiming to be otherwise--they've been arguing that iOS 9 was quite bad for iPhone 6 with all kinds of "performance" glitches (mainly as far as animation and responsiveness go), while iOS 10 has been better in comparison.
 
Thank god my iPhone 6 is still on iOS 8. I always leave the phone on what it came with. My wife is on iOS 10 and her 6+ has constant crashes and turns off and battery issues all the time.

Never upgrade!
 
Is that a fact that 100% of people with iOS 9 aren't and haven't been experiencing various battery-related issues?
I don't have any facts but I can state that I bought the 6s when it came out and I'm still on 9.3.5 and my battery life is excellent, no issues. My phone is incredibly responsive in everything, super fast. I'm not going to update the iOS because I prefer iTunes with the color blend and it's much less white than iOS10. I miss the darker music theme/app from iOS 6 but that's another story.
 
I don't have any facts but I can state that I bought the 6s when it came out and I'm still on 9.3.5 and my battery life is excellent, no issues. My phone is incredibly responsive in everything, super fast. I'm not going to update the iOS because I prefer iTunes with the color blend and it's much less white than iOS10. I miss the darker music theme/app from iOS 6 but that's another story.
Just as there are people with iOS 10 (on iPhone 6s as well as other devices) who have no issues with battery life or otherwise.
 
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Just as there are people with iOS 10 (on iPhone 6s as well as other devices) who have no issues with battery life or otherwise.
Yup, I think that goes with all devices some will, some won't. Most forums gravitate toward negatives, I was only trying to accentuate the positive on how it's working for me.
 
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It's an interesting fact that some other users have been basically claiming to be otherwise--they've been arguing that iOS 9 was quite bad for iPhone 6 with all kinds of "performance" glitches (mainly as far as animation and responsiveness go), while iOS 10 has been better in comparison.
When iOS 10 came out, I read a lot of good reviews about its performance. So I decided to give it a try. It wasn't too bad, except the app switching animation (home double click) was stuttering. I tried to get used to it, but being sensitive to that kind of stuff I failed. So I switched back to iOS 9. However, I can see how others may not even notice this issue, so for them iOS 10 should seem perfectly smooth. Perhaps there are issues in iOS 9 that I overlook in the same way. For example, I never use iTunes, so if there were issues in iOS 9 that were fixed in the successor, I would be completely oblivious.
 
Love my 7plus
So glad I skipped the entire 6 series. You could tell from as far away that something was wrong with Apple to go from the 4 and 5 to that awful 6 redesign and the iOS UI redesign when SJ left.

The 7 was not a complete redo, but it sure fixed a lot of what bothered me when the 6 was released. And the UI has gone from the childish ios 7 to now the more subtle 10.
Looks like SJ leaving did make a huge impact , but it also looks like Tim has avoided a catastrophe and is now in great control of Apple.
 
Since Apple replaced my recalled battery free of charge I haven't had any issues. I wonder if the batteries just don't cope with wear and age well?
 
Is that a fact that 100% of people with iOS 9 aren't and haven't been experiencing various battery-related issues?
It's a 'felt' 100%. Much like it felt like a million people. And a feeling per se isn't wrong, it feels what it feels. The problem starts when you compare felt 'facts' with measured facts. It's quite possible that the '70% solution' feels like a 95% solution to anybody observing online comments.
 
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