I mean, I'm not remotely from the US, but that's alright. I am sure the British don't ever do stereotypes at all.
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Apple Says iPad Pro's XDR Display Designed to Minimize Blooming, but Some Users Still Notice the Effect
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That's doesn't matter. Burn in is accumulative based on brightness x time.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Yes, I would be blinded if I was in a dimly lit room with the brightness all the way up. Regardless of screen tech.
Apologies, I went all American and forgot there’s a whole big world outside of America
Jesus H Christ. Do people not have other things to complain or worry about? Talk about first world problems.
Yop, and this is why I went with the 11" instead of the 12.9 I'd been considering. I primarily use my Pro for proofing and lightly editing photos on flights and inbetween shoots, and that blooming was ridiculous in person. I tolerate it on my 65" Vizio at home because FALD is a flawed technology and I'm waiting for OLED prices to drop just a bit more before making that switch, but this Pro is what I make my livelihood with. Agree with some of the other commenters here: MiniLed is just a stop-gap tech for Apple, not long term. As soon as prices drop a bit more on larger OLED panels, MiniLED will dropped just as quickly as cold cathode backlit LCD's.
No issues with burn-in on my laptop at all. By default, the display tech will dim a little when it's just sitting idle for a few minutes. As soon as you start to work again it brightens right back up.
I am all about that full brightness life, but yes, it's nowhere near that bad. Which of course makes sense, everyone knows how camera's work and that you'll always get more bloom from photographing anything that's literally a light source.
It's great for clickbait though, I'm sure.
Ultimately, if you choose to return or not buy the device because of this issue, fair game to you, but the increased contrast and amazing HDR offset any drawbacks this tech might have for me personally. I am enjoying this screen just as much as my LG OLED TV, so I am perfectly happy.
I look forward to seeing this tech improve over the next few years and then the move from mini-LED to micro-LED.
It's a slate of tech that starts at a grand. It is by definition a First World Device, so of course it's going to engender First World Problems. Furthermore this is an Apple-focused news and discussion site, not Greenpeace's Reddit group, so what did you expect?
Seriously why did you waste time and calories complaining about complaints?
I'd take IPS or miniLED over the PWM headaches any day of the week. Every time I pick up my iPad Pro 10.5 after using my iPhone 12, I can actually feel my eyes relax.
Honestly, the uniform backlight of IPS is good enough. So what if there's a mild glow to darker colors? Beats having headaches and watery eyes. I'd never buy an iPad with an OLED.
Yes I do have it and watching a movie (Bright) with light posts and a dark background the blooming was obvious.
chill man
I am sure that there are a number of reasons why Apple did not go with OLED but they have not, and will not provide the definitive answer you are looking for so we can all skewer them.
Here are some reasons I could cite:
1) There are very few OLED manufactures able to produce suitable quality panels particularly in the needed sizes.
2) Manufacturing yields are lower compared to others (Mini-LED is TBD still I think on yield)
3) OLED production, at least as to Samsung, was was on screens smaller than iPads, primarily Galaxy and iPhone Pro/Pro Max, laptop screens of 15" and above, and TVs. Over time this can fill out better, but there really are not screens available in the iPad Pro 12.9 size
4) OLED burn in continues to be an issue and over a 2-3 year time there will be a noticeable dimming towards the center of the screens. So that issue will become another issue to bash on Apple for a defective product.
5) Apple did not create the iPad Pro 12 as a product primarily to be used in the absolute blackness to view TV, it is positioned as a creative tool primarily. Those are not used in the dark.
6) OLED will bloom when turned up. I sure see it on my OLED TV, not as bad but still there. Inherent to anything that emits bright light really
Always going to be those quick to complain, quick to point fingers, quick to hate, quick to blame, quick to claim moral superiority, quick to claim technology superiority, quick to claim 500 other things, real or imagined, that they hate, dislike and can never live with....
Looking forward to getting mine...hopefully this Wednesday.
I'm thinking this will enhance my photography workflow to the nth degree.
For those thinking about it, I think you will love it 95% of the time. The other 5% you fall into the use category where it is not right. No shame or issue in that. Same thing why we don't all drive Teslas, Corvetttes, Bugatti's and other vehicles - they don't fit our use case or budget.
My point was all the comments like "OMG I could never use this screen" are STUPID. This is a nothing burger in 99.99999% of use cases.
Looks like testing at extreme ranges, valid to know issues at extremes, but meh. You probably won’t use it pushed that far. Kindof like those fake tests where someone screwed up a color profile on external monitors on macs. OMG too much pink! Well yah!
I doubt Pro line will ever have OLED, maybe cheaper Air. I can’t see Apple promoting dirty screen headache-inducing OLED with max 500 Nits brightness when their previous gen display could output double than that. MiniLED with more dimming zones and microLED is the future for their Pro devices.
Well, if you have to max out the brightness in a darkened room in order to show a noticeable quality difference versus an OLED display...the mini LED is doing a solid job with the dimming.
That's a good decision for you, but the fact of the matter is that PWM for most users is not a headache inducing issue. You represent the minority. A significant minority, but a minority nonetheless.
I agree. At least not in the near term will the Pro get OLED. I'd expecting OLED in the iPad Air next year though.
While what you say is true to a certain extent, for consuming content, that's not how it works.
For watching my OLED TV, I usually watch in a dimly lit room. My screen is at maximum brightness. Peak brightness on that TV is close to 1000 nits... but only if a small part of the screen is at full brightness.
For example, if I'm watching a night scene, everything is pretty dark, but there might be a street light in the corner that is at full brightness. Obviously, this doesn't burn out my eyes.
I’m just an average user, but I don’t care about all these screen tech advances. Perfectly happy with LCD. Going from LCD on prior iphones to OLED on my 12 mini has made no appreciable difference, and I can’t imagine mini LED would either.
Image retention v/s OLED Screen Burn-In and how to fix it
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Take a look at Samsung's own help page. I'm sure there are a million more examples that can be easily googled. Iphones are using custom screens to reduce burn-in and extend the lifespan of their screens but even then they will eventually degrade.
People keep ignoring this to further their agenda of another "gate" issue.
People must realize that a glass is in front of the LED panel and it contributes to the slight blooming. My OLED TV exhibits this as well as any other OLED displays with a glass layer on top. It is not at all distracting because it is very slight but it's still there and some units might be worse than others. I must say some of the pictures taken seem exaggerated and exhibit additional blooming caused by the exposure of the camera used.
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