The person who did the measurements said there was more aluminum than titanium. Given he had the proper tool, a thickness gauge, I have no reason to doubt him.
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Apple Says iPhone 15 Pro's Titanium Frame Does Not Contribute to Overheating Issue
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You made the claim that was objectively untrue and chose to rage reply. The funny thing is you’re actually arguing with Zach, who took objective measurements using a proper tool, a thickness gauge. You continue to state that your subjective dislike of what Apple did is more important and accurate than the objective fact that there is more aluminum than titanium. If you don’t like how you’re responding, you’re free to stop.
No he didn't (link directly to the moment he talked about it).
He said, "The thickness of titanium equates to exactly one millimeter, which by my estimate, based on the single sheet of grade 5 from our previous durability test video, is that there's about $30 worth of grade 5 titanium by weight in each of the iPhone 15 Pro Max's."
He never once compared it to the amount of aluminium. Wow, if you're going to say something, don't make it up please.
So again, you refuse to supply a comparison on the amount of titanium versus aluminium. And stop with the accusations please.
You conveniently ignored what he said
immediately after, which I quoted above and will quote again here, “It’s definitely not a full titanium frame of course, more of titanium adornment.” Zach chose the word “adornment” because there is more aluminum than titanium. I prefer the word facade, because it is on the outside and what people see. But the objective fact remains and your subjective dislike of what Apple did has no bearing on it.
Wow, if you’re going to say something, don’t make it up please.
Can you provide a link to the location where he says there is more aluminium than titanium please? I know you refuse to supply objective evidence, but even if you link to an anecdotal experiment, that would be helpful. Here is the video link in case you lost it.
The tear down where he roughly measures the titanium with a micrometer
The melting down of the titanium and leaves an unmeasured pool of (probably, mostly) aluminium behind.
We talked about that. He did not once, EVER say that there was more aluminium than titanium. That's false, and you know it. I even gave you a link from the transcript on the video.
The misinformation you have tried to pass off as fact has been somewhat entertaining. Enjoy your day.
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We talked about that. He said it was an “adornment.” He did not once, EVER say that there was more titanium than aluminum. That’s false, and you know it. I even gave you a quote from the video.
Do you have a source that provided objective fact that Zach was wrong? I know you refuse to supply objective evidence. Here’s the link to the video with the objective fact that the Grade 5 titanium is 1 mm and there is more aluminum to which the titanium is fused.
Tell us how many times your poorly written code caused computer overheating. This just does not happen. Thus you did not need to throttle the CPU. In iPhone, "CPU" gets overheated, or, at least, the phone gets overheated. "High" CPU usage and CPU everheating are two very different things. The former does not cause the latter when the device is designed properly.
…you’ve never had your Mac beachballing with jet engine sounding fans? Never had your windows machine blaring its fans during a stuck windows update?
Runaway processes aren’t exactly an obscure thing.
Who's apple kidding? We all know what the forthcoming "fix" will do.. cripple the performance back down to iPhone 11 levels
That doesn’t make any sense. So there’s no resources used to save what apps you have open?
Yes I guess Apple should have hired all of the back seat drivers on Macrumors to determine whether titanium was going to cause overheating. I’m sure a $1T company never thought to check the materials. Come on people. You’re acting like this some exploding Samsung phone or something. A glitch is a glitch.
You made the claim that there was more aluminium than titanium. And you misquoted Zach. The ONLY truth you have provided was Zacks comment about ‘adornment’ which means nothing and certainly doesn’t say there is more aluminium than titanium.
You’ve provided nothing to back up your claim. I provided links directly to those times you misquoted Zachs experiment. Btw I have not once said there is more of one than the other. I just asked you to show me where anyone has said that.
All this because you couldn’t admit the titanium isn’t just a facade.
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Nothing of significance. iOS has never been designed around the user having to close apps. The function of closing apps only exists to limit the number of apps visible in the app switcher in the event a user wants fewer to cycle through.
Exactly. It’s titanium mostly for marketing purposes only anyway.
Every year there is something. Then Apple fixes it and life moves on.
It's been clear for some time now that you're engaging in bad faith - given you purposefully misunderstand arguments and duck other people's arguments in order to keep making baseless claims. It's not worth engaging with you anymore.
By the way, how's your Huawei Mate 60 Pro? Do they give you one if you keep posting this stuff?
I shouldn't get baited into engaging with your argument, as you don't show others here that courtesy, but against my better judgement:
"High" CPU usage and CPU everheating are two very different things. The former does not cause the latter when the device is designed properly."
Yes exactly, high CPU usage and overheating are two very different things. Glad we agree. The iPhone 15 Pro issue everyone discussing isn't actual overheating, it's inappropriate high CPU/SoC usage.
You have 0 evidence this issue is actually about overheating. Please provide said evidence, with the proviso that a headline casually using the word "overheating" is not evidence.
Apple doesn't have to fix an overheating issue because there is no overheating issue. What they will fix in software is inappropriate high CPU/SoC issue, which doesn't involve throttling whatsoever.
When Zack is measuring the thickness of the titanium in the outer frame, he measures it at 1mm. He doesn’t specifically measure the aluminum of that part of the structure. From what he shows, the aluminum in that location is about the same thickness as the titanium. Do you dispute that? That the frame he is measuring is half titanium and half aluminum.
It’s not quite clear that the spot he measured is representative of the structure. It looks like that aluminum might be an inner flange and that the rest of the aluminum in that area might not be as thick. Even so, we can assume that there is at most 50% aluminum in the frame.
If you are counting the inner structure on which the other components are mounted, yes, that is all aluminum And if you count that too, then more of the overall component is aluminum. What most others here are talking about is the outer frame where the aluminum is, at most 50%.
You seem to be very insistent that there is very little titanium in the frame using phrases like “ a thin titanium facade” that show you want to minimize the amount of titanium for some reason.
He didn’t provide a measurement of the aluminum but you can clearly see that it is not thicker than the titanium. Did you miss that part?
Things crop up and then, if you're Apple, you add titanium to avert the problem and tell people how clever you are. When that fails, you provide some rinky-dink software patches and hope that people forget.
Just read the title of this article: "Apple Says iPhone 15 Pro's Titanium Frame Does Not Contribute to Overheating Issue". Unlike you, Apple does not dispute the fact that the phones get overheated. They are just disputing the cause of overheating. And in another MR article, they say: "Apple plans to release an iOS 17 update to address a bug that may contribute to the reported iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max overheating issue, according to a statement the company shared today with MacRumors and Forbes reporter David Phelan". Once again, Apple is confirming overheating issue.
But the CPU's haven't been overheating... Have a read of this article. Besides going against what you are saying above, it's interesting to see that when any cpu is working properly how hot it can get. Spoiler, CPU's are designed to work at temperatures above 100°c
How Hot is Too Hot for PC Hardware?
Boy, that's a misquote if I ever saw one. They said, "We have identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected." They also say that it will not impact the iPhone the long-term performance of affected iPhones.
Just to clarify. I have 2 questions for you.
1. What problem were they trying to avert when they added titanium to the sides of the iPhone Pro?
2. When you say they provide some 'rinYk-dink' software patch, do you mean App Developers develop their apps properly? Asking for a friend.
As I said already, you have 0 evidence this issue is actually about overheating. Please provide said evidence, with the proviso that a headline casually using the word "overheating" is not evidence.
Please provide evidence the phone is actually overheating. It isn't, and you have none. You can't even say what temperature it's reaching when it's "overheating".
You suddenly seem interested in the distinction between overheating and high CPU usage, where before you were unable to distinguish between the two, so you're getting closer and closer to honing in on the truth - the truth that there is no overheating issue.