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But the CPU's haven't been overheating... Have a read of this article. Besides going against what you are saying above, it's interesting to see that when any cpu is working properly how hot it can get. Spoiler, CPU's are designed to work at temperatures above 100°c

How Hot is Too Hot for PC Hardware?


Boy, that's a misquote if I ever saw one. They said, "We have identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected." They also say that it will not impact the iPhone the long-term performance of affected iPhones.


Just to clarify. I have 2 questions for you.
1. What problem were they trying to avert when they added titanium to the sides of the iPhone Pro?
2. When you say they provide some 'rinYk-dink' software patch, do you mean App Developers develop their apps properly? Asking for a friend.
I did not say that the processor was overheating. I said that the processor was overheating the phone case. I am sure you don't want your phone case to reach 100 degrees C.
 
But the CPU's haven't been overheating... Have a read of this article. Besides going against what you are saying above, it's interesting to see that when any cpu is working properly how hot it can get. Spoiler, CPU's are designed to work at temperatures above 100°c

How Hot is Too Hot for PC Hardware?


Boy, that's a misquote if I ever saw one. They said, "We have identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected." They also say that it will not impact the iPhone the long-term performance of affected iPhones.


Just to clarify. I have 2 questions for you.
1. What problem were they trying to avert when they added titanium to the sides of the iPhone Pro?
2. When you say they provide some 'rinYk-dink' software patch, do you mean App Developers develop their apps properly? Asking for a friend.
100 degrees C also qualify as "warmer than expected".
 
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I did not say that the processor was overheating. I said that the processor was overheating the phone case. I am sure you don't want your phone case to reach 100 degrees C.
My bad. And you're right, I don't want my phone case to reach 100°c. How hot have they been?

100 degrees C also qualify as "warmer than expected".
True. How hot have they been? have the phones actually overheated, or just been 'warmer than expected'. We don't want to exaggerate the claim now do we?
 
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My bad. And you're right, I don't want my phone case to reach 100°c. How hot have they been?


True. How hot have they been? have the phones actually overheated, or just been 'warmer than expected'. We don't want to exaggerate the claim now do we?
I have no first hand experience but I am sure that if the phones were just a little warm nobody would make so much fuss. The phones get warm all the time.
 
I have no first hand experience but I am sure that if the phones were just a little warm nobody would make so much fuss. The phones get warm all the time.
I agreed with some of your claims, but people will always make a massive fuss, like the world is falling if their phone is a little off than expected. And apple are rightly addressing this. If app developers are doing something right, or iOS needs a tweak like it always seems to, then that's a good thing.
 
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I have no first hand experience but I am sure that if the phones were just a little warm nobody would make so much fuss. The phones get warm all the time.

You're sure? So you have no first hand experience, nor do you have any figures of how hot the phone is, nor do you have even one reputable journalist saying the phone is actually overheating. But you're sure?

The issue is that the phone is getting hot within the realm of the heat you would see gaming or benchmarking, for no discernible reason.

If you're playing games or doing benchmarks and the phone is very warm to the touch, it's expected. If you're just sitting there listening to music and your phone gets that hot, there's clearly a software issue. And that's what people are complaining about.

But you know this. You just don't care.
 
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His post on this overheating issue is almost transparently a leak from TSMC — a sort of “Whatever is going on with the iPhone 15 Pro heat dissipation, it has nothing to do with our 3nm process”. Blaming it on the new titanium frame was just wild speculation on Kuo’s part, and by all evidence is completely wrong.

The plot further sickens.
 
Guess we will see once update comes if it fixes for all

That's what it all comes down to for me. All these uninformed opinions flying around (Titanium bad; 3nm bad etc) all being refuted by the entities that actually designed the stuff. Hopefully when a software fix comes out - and probably enough people run before-and-after benchmarks to lay to rest the inevitable they've-just-throttled-the-SoC claims(*) - these unsubstantiated theories will go away.

Sadly I suspect that we'll never learn in detail what was wrong, detailed technical expositions don't seem to be Apple's way, but if the software problem has been accurately identified and is fixed then I suppose it doesn't really matter if a few technical people's curiosity doesn't get satisfied (e.g. mine) and everyone can just move on and enjoy their phones.

(*) Although I've even seen one post on this site questioning whether running benchmarks would be conclusive - "but what if Apple detects benchmark code and runs that at full speed?"! When you get to that level of paranoia I guess you just can't win.
 
Using the exact same version of the apps how is my 14 not overheating.

Since Apple doesn't tend to give deep technical descriptions of issues, especially in advance of having pushed out a fix that can be seen to solve the problem, even the most technical people here would just be guessing. There are technical reasons that could answer your question though. A race condition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_condition) somewhere is one that occurs to me.

I'm absolutely not suggesting that is the reason, just saying that is one of a number of possibilities that, if the cause of this problem wasn't 100% obvious to the Apple team pretty quickly based on the info they can get from their internal debugging tools, when a bug that cannot be reproduced consistently across installations is encountered or even consistently on the same installation, it is one thing to consider in complex multi-tasking operating systems (and throw in a multi-processor SoC just to make things even more challenging). There are plenty of other possibilities though.
 
He didn’t provide a measurement of the aluminum but you can clearly see that it is not thicker than the titanium. Did you miss that part?
He called it a titanium “adornment” and the aluminum was clearly thicker than the titanium. He had the proper tools right there. I have no reason not to take Zak at his word.
 
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That's what it all comes down to for me. All these uninformed opinions flying around (Titanium bad; 3nm bad etc) all being refuted by the entities that actually designed the stuff. Hopefully when a software fix comes out - and probably enough people run before-and-after benchmarks to lay to rest the inevitable they've-just-throttled-the-SoC claims(*) - these unsubstantiated theories will go away.

Sadly I suspect that we'll never learn in detail what was wrong, detailed technical expositions don't seem to be Apple's way, but if the software problem has been accurately identified and is fixed then I suppose it doesn't really matter if a few technical people's curiosity doesn't get satisfied (e.g. mine) and everyone can just move on and enjoy their phones.

(*) Although I've even seen one post on this site questioning whether running benchmarks would be conclusive - "but what if Apple detects benchmark code and runs that at full speed?"! When you get to that level of paranoia I guess you just can't win.
Although it doesn’t appear that Apple does that, other manufacturers do, which hardly makes it “paranoia.”
 
Things crop up and then, if you're Apple, you add titanium to avert the problem and tell people how clever you are. When that fails, you provide some rinky-dink software patches and hope that people forget.
I hope by the time I get my pro max, which is a holiday gift, this has been sorted out. I’ve never had a phone that on occasion didn’t get hot or warm but not extremely hot.
 
You're sure? So you have no first hand experience, nor do you have any figures of how hot the phone is, nor do you have even one reputable journalist saying the phone is actually overheating. But you're sure?

The issue is that the phone is getting hot within the realm of the heat you would see gaming or benchmarking, for no discernible reason.

If you're playing games or doing benchmarks and the phone is very warm to the touch, it's expected. If you're just sitting there listening to music and your phone gets that hot, there's clearly a software issue. And that's what people are complaining about.

But you know this. You just don't care.
Are you familiar with things like Google search? Use it. It returns a lot of results with specific temperature numbers. Here is on example from 9to5mac: Widespread iPhone 15 overheating reports, with temperatures as high as 116F
 
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"Apple Says iPhone 15 Pro's Titanium Frame Does Not Contribute to Overheating Issue" Well, since Apple has never lied to its customers I believe everything they say! 🤣

 
Are you familiar with things like Google search? Use it. It returns a lot of results with specific temperature numbers. Here is on example from 9to5mac: Widespread iPhone 15 overheating reports, with temperatures as high as 116F
In what world is 116F “overheating” and not just “very warm”?

Your link explicitly talks about the phone temperature rising *when charging from a low battery*, which is exactly when fast charging pushes as much power to the phone as allowed, hence heat.

The same link also spells out Instagram being used.


In other words, getting results from Google doesn’t mean jack **** if the link provided as evidence has no consistency to it or actual analysis of what’s going on.

Phone gets warm while charging from a low battery! Read all about it!

Phone warms up while scrolling instagram, a bug already explicitly called out by Apple, read all about it!

People purposely using the term “overheating” instead of “it feels warm”, read all about it!

Click click click the bait! Monetize a story with half truths, social media posts copy/pasted into our article, deliberate misuse of terms, click click click, thanks for the revenue!

Media literacy is dead and buried online.
 
You can believe me or not, but I was with my 5 year old nephew yesterday and was watching football. He asked for my phone to play a game (15 Pro) and after about 2 minutes he gave it back to me and said it was really hot so he didn't like it.
 
So I got the base iPhone 15 128GB. I can confirm that the overheating also happened on mine. I read an article yesterday that said that overheating happens (which Apple is looking to correct with a software update) when the user installs new apps on the new phones. So this is not just a Titanium phone issue. It only overheated on the first day but thereafter it seems to be normal. Not as overheated as the first time, though over heating is still prevalent!

On a side note, lovely phone but disappointed its a copy and paste phone look from the past couple of years (minus the internals off course).
 
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You can believe me or not, but I was with my 5 year old nephew yesterday and was watching football. He asked for my phone to play a game (15 Pro) and after about 2 minutes he gave it back to me and said it was really hot so he didn't like it.
Not surprised, it wasnt his imagination. I can believe your story.
 
There's nothing minor about spending $1200 on an item and it malfunctions. Whether its a TV, game console or refrigerator I expect it to perform as advertised.

It does perform as advertised. At least mine does. If you’re having issues on yours, take it back - but a lot of people don’t even have the phone, but they “know” it’s overheating.
 
It does perform as advertised. At least mine does. If you’re having issues on yours, take it back - but a lot of people don’t even have the phone, but they “know” it’s overheating.
Why would people take it back when Apple has acknowledged the problem and clearly said a solution is forthcoming?
 
"I know a lot of people, including RobbieTop on Macrumors claimed the iPhone 15 TurboHemi ProMax was super heating from reaching Mach 5, like an SR-71...but that is not the case...we beefed up the GPU and forgot to load balance the thermal management profile because we are complacent as a $3 Trillion US company...it was probably one our work from home lazy good for nothin grifter employees trying to unionize. We apologize for resting on our laurels and we promise to do it again with the ScubaGearProMax™️ next year when we ask you for the low low price of a moderate to ok condition used car to buy our solipsistic Anti-Social ProMax™️ helmet and mouth gear for those of you looking for the full 1980s nerd experience. Please visit Apple.com with your Credit Card information and Social Profile score to see if you too can be granted exclusive (not really) access to our credit card with ridiculous APR if you don't pay it on time despite having an 812 credit score. Please replace your Apple product every year....it helps the environment each time you buy a product with less bromide and leather, so just upgrade every year....won't waste anything....we recycle your phone to India where some poor schmuck will have a low Battery Health percentage and then go bitch on Reddit about how Apple needs to up their game. This has gone on long enough and I wish everyone a Happy Third Time This Year LGBT Mother's with Multiple Sclerosis Day! " - Sir Timothy Apple, Mrs.
 
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"I know a lot of people, including RobbieTop on Macrumors claimed the iPhone 15 TurboHemi ProMax was super heating from reaching Mach 5, like an SR-71...but that is not the case...we beefed up the GPU and forgot to load balance the thermal management profile because we are complacent as a $3 Trillion US company...it was probably one our work from home lazy good for nothin grifter employees trying to unionize. We apologize for resting on our laurels and we promise to do it again with the ScubaGearProMax™️ next year when we ask you for the low low price of a moderate to ok condition used car to buy our solipsistic Anti-Social ProMax™️ helmet and mouth gear for those of you looking for the full 1980s nerd experience. Please visit Apple.com with your Credit Card information and Social Profile score to see if you too can be granted exclusive (not really) access to our credit card with ridiculous APR if you don't pay it on time despite having an 812 credit score. Please replace your Apple product every year....it helps the environment each time you buy a product with less bromide and leather, so just upgrade every year....won't waste anything....we recycle your phone to India where some poor schmuck will have a low Battery Health percentage and then go bitch on Reddit about how Apple needs to up their game. This has gone on long enough and I wish everyone a Happy Third Time This Year LGBT Mother's with Multiple Sclerosis Day! " - Sir Timothy Apple, Mrs.
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