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I mean, if they think the phone is not operating as advertised. Mine is. Also, bugs happen. No big deal.
I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to tell anyone who is having an issue to "take it back," especially given Apple will soon have a solution.
 
I mean, if they think the phone is not operating as advertised. Mine is. Also, bugs happen. No big deal.

I agree with goonie. Telling people “you should just take it back” is a horrible recommendation when Apple has already indicated a software fix is forthcoming.
 
Well, yes, it’s a combination of all together, and the fix will be a cleverly hidden scheduler tweak to limit the cpu/gpu resources availability or/and runtime throttle. The titanium grade 5 frame contributes to the overall poor hardware design problem, Apple will deny this till they get pushed against the wall.

You really don't know what you're talking about. You're just speculating.

The iPhone Pro uses both aluminium and titanium alloys. Aluminium is much better than stainless steel and titanium is worse. It is pretty believable that a aluminium + titanium combination conducts heat better than stainless steel.

Why would Apple lie about this?
 
Yes. On your 15 Pro, do an objective CPU/GPU benchmark test before, then after Apple’s fix. And then do it again every time Apple implements a software update. If the scores trend down, the phone is being throttled because of insufficient cooling.

So your definition of throttling is that operating system upgrades which causes other software to run more slowly is throttling ?
 
Even if the developer is spawning tons of threads and using all the CPU and GPU resources, that shouldn’t cause overheating, the hardware should throttle back performance when the heat rises.

It doesn't causes overheating but it causes the phone to get warm. Just trying running an app analysing chess positions and you'll get a warm iPhone or iPad.

There is a huge difference between a warm chassis and overheating.

Overheating at the SoC level happens above 110 degrees Celsius and both the OS and the hardware itself will stop it from overheating.
 
You really don't know what you're talking about. You're just speculating.

The iPhone Pro uses both aluminium and titanium alloys. Aluminium is much better than stainless steel and titanium is worse. It is pretty believable that a aluminium + titanium combination conducts heat better than stainless steel.

Why would Apple lie about this?
The funny thing is this thread is full of people, in an attempt to refute the “titanium contributes to overheating” argument, by arguing that the majority of the frame is titanium when it is actually majority aluminum, thus actually supporting the argument they think they are arguing against. Some folks either reflexively blame Apple or reflexively absolve Apple, no matter the information available.
 
So your definition of throttling is that operating system upgrades which causes other software to run more slowly is throttling ?
Could you give me an example of a particular operating system and specific software where this could or has happened?
 
Just read the title of this article: "Apple Says iPhone 15 Pro's Titanium Frame Does Not Contribute to Overheating Issue". Unlike you, Apple does not dispute the fact that the phones get overheated. They are just disputing the cause of overheating. And in another MR article, they say: "Apple plans to release an iOS 17 update to address a bug that may contribute to the reported iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max overheating issue, according to a statement the company shared today with MacRumors and Forbes reporter David Phelan". Once again, Apple is confirming overheating issue.

What you quote is what Macrumors says Apple is saying. Apple uses the word 'warm':

We have identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected. The device may feel warmer during the first few days after setting up or restoring the device because of increased background activity. We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and will be addressed in a software update. Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are causing them to overload the system. We're working with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling out

People are not complaining about overheating of the components. They're complaining about the outer shell/frame of the iPhone feels warm or hot to the touch.

Also people tend to exaggerate and saying 'hot' when they really mean 'warm'. Or 'super hot' when they really mean 'hot'.
 
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I have no first hand experience but I am sure that if the phones were just a little warm nobody would make so much fuss. The phones get warm all the time.

A lot of people are complaining that their phones feels warm for no apparent reason, but they use the word 'hot' or even 'super hot'.

Some people even uses the word 'overheat' without thinking about what it means. They think it means "the iPhone feels hotter than it should".

And yes, there are some people saying the phone feels uncomfortable hot.
 
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How is the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max overheating not a hardware issue? It's the A17 Pro chip that's generating the heat, is it not? If the A17 Pro chip is not hardware, then what is it? It's certainly not software.
Normally, an iPhone runs at well under 25% of its top speed because that's all that's needed for most tasks. Sometimes a runaway process (an Apple program that runs in the background) can accidentally run at full speed when it's actually not doing anything. This in turn will make the phone get hot.

Think of someone running at full speed on a treadmill. They don't get anywhere, but they do heat up.

The bug fix is to find the right program and fix it so it only does what's needed.
 
It doesn't causes overheating but it causes the phone to get warm. Just trying running an app analysing chess positions and you'll get a warm iPhone or iPad.

There is a huge difference between a warm chassis and overheating.

Overheating at the SoC level happens above 110 degrees Celsius and both the OS and the hardware itself will stop it from overheating.
My 12 Pro Max gets warm when I play MAME while streaming a film playing picture-in-picture. Are people really just complaining about the device getting warm? The MacRumours article keeps referring to overheating, but I suppose it depends on how warm it gets and how easily alarmed the device’s owner is about the temperature, even if it’s well within the tolerances of the device itself.
 
Normally, an iPhone runs at well under 25% of its top speed because that's all that's needed for most tasks. Sometimes a runaway process (an Apple program that runs in the background) can accidentally run at full speed when it's actually not doing anything. This in turn will make the phone get hot.

Think of someone running at full speed on a treadmill. They don't get anywhere, but they do heat up.

The bug fix is to find the right program and fix it so it only does what's needed.
I’d love if a technical analysis is released of the problem. I’d bet money that Instagram is gaming the QOS scheduling so EVERYTHING it does is considered the highest priority, and prefetching far and away more images than needed for continuous scrolling.

Facebook (I don’t care that they call themselves meta now) has always been lousy with their adherence to iOS design guidelines.
 
My 12 Pro Max gets warm when I play MAME while streaming a film playing picture-in-picture. Are people really just complaining about the device getting warm? The MacRumours article keeps referring to overheating, but I suppose it depends on how warm it gets and how easily alarmed the device’s owner is about the temperature, even if it’s well within the tolerances of the device itself.
“Overheating” has become the new term for “gets warmer” almost overnight as thousands of content creators and tech “journalism” sites rush to cash in on “engagement” stats.

100F is nowhere near the threshold for the actual definition of “overheating” when it comes to CPUs.

It’s a long crappy game of technology illiterate telephone with social media driving the story.
 
“Overheating” has become the new term for “gets warmer” almost overnight as thousands of content creators and tech “journalism” sites rush to cash in on “engagement” stats.

100F is nowhere near the threshold for the actual definition of “overheating” when it comes to CPUs.

It’s a long crappy game of technology illiterate telephone with social media driving the story.
Yes, more precise language is needed for this particular topic. Actual measured temperatures would be a good start, as would the target maximums in various spots on the phone.

The "overheating" of an iPhone is likely to be limited more by the permissible skin temperature of the device (around 110 to 120F) and the maximums for the health of any internal components than the actual CPU.
 
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I just thought it was an extra feature for the wilderness. You can contact Satellite SOS and start a fire
 
Just got the warning on my 14 Pro about pausing charging until phone temp goes down (paraphrasing). So it’s iOS 17…..or both?

Charging via lightning
 
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