Toilet paper manufacturing is FAR easier than a $1000 electronic device made up of lots of components sourced by other suppliers (even from suppliers that are directly competing with Apple). You really don’t see that?
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Apple Says iPhone X Demand is 'Off the Charts' After Device Quickly Sells Out Around the World
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Toilet paper manufacturing is FAR easier than a $1000 electronic device made up of lots of components sourced by other suppliers (even from suppliers that are directly competing with Apple). You really don’t see that?
I doubt the X will be a longtime success. The prices for repairs will make it a one hit wonder for most of the few people who bought it and will also make most of those turn away from apple phones once they damaged it, simply because they can't afford another high priced phone, because most of these will be stuck in their mobile contract they used to pay the phone on a monthly basis.
The next big flop will be the speaker they announced and nobody reminds its name anymore.
Almost no demand for the 8, almost no sold X (cause you can't buy any) and no demands after the speaker.
The only success apple had in the last years was the SE. They should get back to basics again.
One iPhone and the budget line SE. All other experiments failed.
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Yeah, toilet paper is growing on the toilet paper tree, i forgot.
Basically running a factory for toilet paper is not much different from running a phone factory.
You need parts, machines and workers. You can buy toilet paper from higher price range and from the discount shelve.
All those papers are made in the same factories, like the iPhone is made by foxconn, who also builds discount phones.
The next big flop will be the speaker they announced and nobody reminds its name anymore.
Almost no demand for the 8, almost no sold X (cause you can't buy any) and no demands after the speaker.
The only success apple had in the last years was the SE. They should get back to basics again.
One iPhone and the budget line SE. All other experiments failed.
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Yeah, toilet paper is growing on the toilet paper tree, i forgot.
Basically running a factory for toilet paper is not much different from running a phone factory.
You need parts, machines and workers. You can buy toilet paper from higher price range and from the discount shelve.
All those papers are made in the same factories, like the iPhone is made by foxconn, who also builds discount phones.
Re-read what I said again. I said toilet paper is a far easier product to produce than an electronic device. You disagree?
Does any one company sell 200 million rolls of toilet paper a year?
Perfect PR move. Only make a couple million for demand and then say how fast they sold out pre-orders and they can't keep up with demand.. Even though most of us know this is BS being Apple loves to always tout how quick things sold out or can't keep in stock..
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I'm sure there is.. Quick math AVERAGE consumer uses 49 rolls of toilet paper a year. Total population of just the US is 323.1 million. Now take into consideration other countries that these companies sell too and your over your 200 million rolls easy....
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I'm sure there is.. Quick math AVERAGE consumer uses 49 rolls of toilet paper a year. Total population of just the US is 323.1 million. Now take into consideration other countries that these companies sell too and your over your 200 million rolls easy....
James
This is a new low for MR forum posts.
You must be making that statement based on your extensive experience with using Face ID on iPhone X.
Yeah but there are many many companies selling toilet paper. Does anyone couple move hundreds of millions units a year.
Never mind. Don’t think you are getting the point.
There are way too many people complaining on the MR threads right now... I personally think the phone is expensive, but am also excited to be upgrading. My 6 has been pretty good, but I'm really excited about a smaller phone with a good camera and the speed should be great.
There are lots of companies who make millions of things. Several companies make a similar number of smartphones to Apple. I don't even remember why this was an issue... I think someone was trying to say to cut Apple some slack because what they do is hard. Apple didn't just start making smartphones this year. They are having a hard time making the X.
You know that the X is not smaller than the 6, right?
Thanks. I wont be activating it in store so hopefully I'll be right in and right out.
I think you’ll find the iPhone 8 sold out at launch just like every other iPhone at launch.
I stand by my claim that Apple are doing this deliberately because it keeps working.
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Most iPhones are sold to existing iPhone owners so it’s hardly a stretch to assume they will wait for the new iPhone.
Actually, from a manufacturing perspective its most efficient to minimize product in the pipeline by keeping minimal inventory.
That is the only sensible part of your argument. Apple could limit production capacity incase they find a production problem later which would require a recall. The less you have sold, the less damage it could do. However, that is still Apple deliberately limiting supply at launch which was my argument.
If that’s the case, you should be able to refute the entire argument properly. You haven’t done that.
That’s...not the way it works. 1) Problems with production by definition aren’t going to be deliberate or even known ahead of production, 2) no company limits final production expecting problems. Problems happen during production that limit yield (the % of produced product that fully meet the desired quality). The process of rectifying production problems can limit production, however. But calling this a deliberate limit of launch supply is so far from the original argument as to be obtuse. Your position is not at all compelling.
Wow my friend you truly are clueless. All your hypothesizes go no where. If Apple were such a failure as you describe why then is it the most successful tech company in the world? Why are the likes of Samsung forever trying to mimic Apple's every move? Sure Apple isn't perfect but compared to all rest it's in a league of its own. By the sound of it, you don't even own an Apple product or if you do, you must live a most miserable experience having to put up with a product you absolutely hate. Do yourself a favor and get the latest $950 Samsung device and never look back. You'll be much happier that way I assure you.
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So using your math every roll and a half of toilet equals one iPhone? Yeah that's a fair comparison. Haha! Wouldn't the high tech toilet paper makers love to have Apple's profit margins. And yes I can see the engineers at the toilet paper manufactures sitting around planning the yearly innovations in toilet paper. Haha!
These fools must be dealt with publicly. What insane garbage they spew. Is this how the Android industry innovates?
To be fair, if you go to pro android forums there’s a lot of Apple trolls there as well. We can go into the details of why they have nothing better to do all day but post on forums for products they hate and would never buy, but that’s another topic entirely.
You’ve separted 1 function into two showing the reason why so many smartphones failed in the USA before iPhone.
Digital assistant
Personal digital organizer
^ this is one concept called Personal Digital Assitant (PDA; remember Palm/Psion or Symbian)? This included: Contacts, Calendar, Calculator, Notepad, nd email client.
If you don’t have these then you don’t have a smartphone. Hence why Apple didn’t call the iPhone (OG) smartphones but instead Phones. Only when the App Store debuted did smartphone became used in their marketing.
Digital assistant, i meant Voice activated that is Siri. So its different from what we knew as PDAs and digital diaries way back in the 90s
How exactly is Samsung now mimicking Apple's every move? None of Samsung's current phones look a thing like an iPhone, and if anything the X is copying several features Samsung introduced earlier.
And by the way, there is quite a bit of technology involved in manufacturing other things than smartphones, but I won't even try to explain it to you.
This reminds me of a friend who was an engineer at a toilet paper plant. He designed a computer to watch the pulp thickness just before each roller and compare it to the desired output on the other side, and constantly adjust the roller opening.
As for "far easier", that part reminded me of his tales of a 10 or 20 foot wide continuous stream of new toilet paper rushing by at like 35 mph.
He claimed that once in a while it broke, and the streaming paper coming off some of the rollers at that speed could easily cut your arm off. Besides being a big mess to clean up.
I don't think if a phone assembly line stops suddenly, that people can get sliced up
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This reminds me of a friend who was an engineer at a toilet paper plant. He designed a computer to watch the pulp thickness just before each roller and compare it to the desired output on the other side, and constantly adjust the roller opening.
As for "far easier", that part reminded me of his tales of a 10 or 20 foot wide continuous stream of new toilet paper rushing by at like 35 mph.
He claimed that once in a while it broke, and the streaming paper coming off some of the rollers at that speed could easily cut your arm off. Besides being a big mess to clean up.
I don't think if a phone assembly line stops suddenly, that people can get sliced up
Just saying....
I think you will never get some of these folks to even comprehend what you are saying. To them, "assembling" a phone is far more challenging, which in reality is like assembling tiny lego blocks.
Apple is actually selling five different iPhones at this time. Only the X is in short supply.
Fitting though, considering the quality of comments is really going down the toilet these days.