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Apple Says it Syncs Call Logs on iCloud As a 'Convenience to Customers' Amid Security Concerns
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It's a very bad problem affecting 100's if not 1000's of users, mentioned on 9to5mac:
https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/09/icloud-photo-sharing-and-calendar-spam/
How is this even a story? The Government can request call logs from your carrier.
what I find so amusing is that your cell phone provider has a log on all phone call you make and receive and missed, all text messege you send and receive. I know this because every month I look at my cell phone bill and it showed me every call and text that went thru my phone number. If the Goverment wanted to know who you are calling they can go to your cell provider and get the info. If you are that concerned then use 3rd party app's.
Anyone who uses iCloud to backup and restore already knows this. Anything you use your phone for is liable to be uploaded by *whoever* and it's best to assume this from the start.
wasn't talking about Elcomsoft. I was supporting my statement of the UI complexity of adding a single switch as you suggested. try again.
I like having all my devices sync up. Very useful to me. But yes, for the uber private, they should have an opt out option. You can't please everyone.
I don't think this is an issue for 95% of the population but Apple should give users the option to disable this because for some people it could be important and for others they just would prefer it to not sync
Basically, I'm saying that just because it doesn't affect or bother me doesn't mean it doesn't affect or bother anyone and Apple should give users full control over what happens to their personal data if they really are serious about privacy.
Also, just because they are better on privacy than the competition, it doesn't mean they are perfect
Basically, I'm saying that just because it doesn't affect or bother me doesn't mean it doesn't affect or bother anyone and Apple should give users full control over what happens to their personal data if they really are serious about privacy.
Also, just because they are better on privacy than the competition, it doesn't mean they are perfect
Thanks for the tip, I did turn off Handoff, but haven't tried disabling iCloud Drive. Just turned it off, let's see if it works. (Although not ideal, because I do actually sometimes use iCloud Drive on my work phone)
Quite apart from security concerns, and in fairness this is really a separate issue, the whole syncing-calls-across-devices thing can get annoying pretty fast. Decided to replace my work-supplied Android phone with my old 5 when I got a 7, only to find calls from random numbers in the call logs on both devices (different contacts synced to each device).
This kind of semi-hidden functionality with no obvious way to disable it is a pain.
This kind of semi-hidden functionality with no obvious way to disable it is a pain.
Did Apple admit that they maintain encryption keys, or is this just you assuming that they must be doing that? Please share if you have any link showing Apple mentioning that they have encryption keys.
Have a look here:
https://www.ft.com/content/cd295840-db6c-11e5-98fd-06d75973fe09
https://9to5mac.com/2016/02/25/appl...hone-security-to-counter-fbi-unlock-requests/
They're working on ways of eliminating the need to store the keys but haven't as yet done it
"The New York Times and Financial Times are detailing that" is not the same as Apple admitting something. Last I heard from Apple on the issue was Tim Cook's letter http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/. In this letter, Apple claims that they did not give access to FBI, not because they did not want to (Cook mentions "When the FBI has requested data that’s in our possession, we have provided it"), but because they cannot ("Specifically, the FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system", i.e. a new iOS version that would either not use encryption or allow for encryption keys to be selectively given to the authorities).
I don't mean to say that you are wrong, you obviously could be right about this, but if you find Apple admitting they keep encryption keys, I honestly would like to know.
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Tim Cook's reply is in relation to unlocking the iPhone itself (Apple had already provided iCloud backups to the FBI but they wanted to see if there was anything else on the phone).
I'm sorry, that's the only relevant article that I could find that has anything coming directly from Apple (and not hearsay).
Anyway, back to the original statement that "apple has encryption keys. They DON'T NEED these yet they insist on keeping access", I guess you and/or 'arekm' are assuming that Apple does so (or basing your assumption on unofficial, non-Apple reports).
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That wasn't my statement
My understanding is they do need them at the moment but are working on a way of providing all the functionality without the need to keep the keys
Also, this quote indicates that Apple do indeed currently have the ability to decrypt iCloud backups
From here: http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/answers/
That wasn't my statement
My understanding is they do need them at the moment but are working on a way of providing all the functionality without the need to keep the keys
Also, this quote indicates that Apple do indeed currently have the ability to decrypt iCloud backups
From here: http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/answers/
Sorry about the misunderstanding, I actually realized my mistake moments after I wrote it (and edited the comment).
Also, your last explanation made sense to me, seems I was asking the wrong question
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There are plenty of markets focused around jobless teens, probably because some of them blow their allowances on useless stuff.
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I get a notification every day from some guy in China inviting me and many others to a calendar event saying "90% OFF BOOTS SALE" or whatever. It was happening last week but seems to have stopped now.
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Any bog-standard iCloud backup, way before iCloud Drive came along; saves contacts, SMS, call logs, settings, wallpaper and homescreen icon layout.
ok, this is going to far..... You can make a clear statement about privacy, but overstepping it is another matter.
we Mobile carriers hypercritically did controlled privacy behavior just as much as Apple we would also blame them for call log keeping as well
U can't win.. Either its privacy or security, but not both.....
The problem is we want it all.... and no trade-off's.. Kinda difficult to do... even Apple can't do it, yet still tells us on the basis of 'deferential privacy' This can only go so far, if we want more and more convenience..
we Mobile carriers hypercritically did controlled privacy behavior just as much as Apple we would also blame them for call log keeping as well
U can't win.. Either its privacy or security, but not both.....
The problem is we want it all.... and no trade-off's.. Kinda difficult to do... even Apple can't do it, yet still tells us on the basis of 'deferential privacy' This can only go so far, if we want more and more convenience..